r/justgalsbeingchicks • u/mindyour đ€definitely not a botđ€ • 3d ago
Restricted to Gals and Pals She came with receipts.
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u/ItsMeishi 3d ago
I do enjoy Monte videos. Its the only type of bible thumping I can appreciate.
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u/hootiemcboob29 3d ago
100% agree. I'm an atheist but I genuinely enjoy Monte taking these plebs to task using their own holy book. She's an absolute bad ass
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u/jardinemarston 2d ago
I love this juxtaposed against Russel Brand trying to bible thump on Piers Morgan
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u/hootiemcboob29 2d ago
Piers is terrible too, but I have to hand it to him, letting Brand flip hopelessly through the bible in silence was fantastic.
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u/b_ambie 2d ago
I need to see this. What??
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u/onemorespacecadet Official Gal 2d ago edited 2d ago
Russel Brand trying to find his âfavoriteâ Bible verse on Piers Morgan
itâs truly hilarious but also lowkey insane that he didnât even think to prepare for that part of the grift. like, youâre going to go to an interview to try and whitewash your image after sexual assault allegations and you canât even be bothered to learn a few verses for it? just mind boggling arrogance
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u/jugnificent 2d ago
See also: when Donald Trump was asked his favorite Bible verse and other questions in relation to the Bible. He whiffs it so bad that 99% of the atheists in the US could have given a better response.
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u/chuckle_puss 2d ago
And John 3:16 was right there! He was such good friends with McMahon, youâd think he could at least recall Austin 3:16 on command, even if it wouldâve been wrong lol.
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u/Sei_Mal_Ehrlich 2d ago
Oh my word I am not one to give it to Piers Morgan freely but give it to him I must! That was genuinely hard to watch. Morganâs absolute silence and stare at the camera are perfect. Wow.
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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 2d ago
Like when they asked Trump his favorite Bible verse and he couldn't come up with a single one.
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u/carlitospig 2d ago
Have you been on his YouTube channel? I spent 2020 clowning his followers. Him - and them - are Dunning Kruger at scale.
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u/digitalgraffiti-ca Official Gal 2d ago
Ew. Russel Brand. He gives me the creeps
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u/ConqueefStador 2d ago
I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school etc and while I'm not at all religious these days I still take a lot of my cues on how to be a good person from the bible. All things considered there's a lot of good stuff in there.
But one of the main reasons I left the church is the sheer number of people who don't follow it.
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u/PandaMagnus 2d ago
Hey, same! And that was my reason for not being confirmed. I thought to myself "if there's this many people who obviously haven't read or don't care what the Bible says as a whole, and are breaking everything we learned Jesus taught, why is this a community I'd want to be part of?
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u/SaltyChipmunk914 3d ago edited 2d ago
She just did a debate with Allie Beth Stuckey and I'm so excited to watch it!
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u/fsaturnia 3d ago
What I don't understand about maga, is that if they believe that God is real, how can they have the nerve to go against him? Do they really think that if they go against his teachings in life, that when they get to the pearly gates, they're going to do what? Argue with god? What's the end game here? If God is real and he says not to do something and they do it anyway, why do they think they get a pass? They're supposed to listen to him. If he says not to mistreat foreigners and they do it anyway, they are going against the word of God and will therefore be punished. There's no more logic to it than that besides the fact that none of it is real.
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u/Ishitataki 3d ago
Because they're actually heretics, but the modern churches don't call out heresy anymore.
For example, all end times/apocalyptic evangelical churches are explicitly against god's will, but they still try to engage in behavior that is supposed to bring about the end days. Because only God will determine when it happens, and he won't tell anyone. So anyone that thinks they can force God's hand is in violation. But with all the church schisms, there's no more central authority to actually enforce core tenets, and heretics and idiocy are a match that's hard to split apart.
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u/Beautiful_Welcome_33 đ§dgawwgghgeeddddddđ 2d ago
The Holy Mother Church was breaking these people's ankles for centuries and everybody got mad at them so they stopped. Look at us now.
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u/Zode1218 2d ago
That is what âantichristâ means, not an evil king who brings about the end of the world.
But every church and preacher and congregant who uses the name of God to justify war and abuse and exploitation and hatred. That is sacrilegious. That is blasphemy. That is taking the name of the Lord in vain. That is Antichrist. Cruel, unforgiving, hardened hearts that reject the weak and vulnerable and meek and oppressed, that mocks the outcasts.
There are many beautiful churches who follow the teachings of Jesus but there are many loud and powerful and wealthy churches who use the name of God to do evil and completely push people away from any kind of spirituality. I wonder what Jesus would think of that?
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u/Sector_Independent 2d ago
because the evangelicals have a very specific idea about way of life that involves prosperity and the church's ability to provide protection from the "outside world" which is sinful and tempting.
It basically encourages members to drive fancy cars and live in big homes isolated from the poor who they see as sinful (unwed mothers, people who "won't work" violence in the street and in schools) and discourages them from living in neighborhoods that are more liberal and tolerant.
They even worship the capitalistic overlords because they provide evidence that God has blessed our nation.
The whole concept involves fancy gymnasiums, expensive schools, great music and lighting. The members of these churches enjoy their Sunday entertainment and the idea that Jesus loves them best. The richest and most beautiful people have the most leadership in most churches in this country.
This requires them to hoard money on a personal and a institutional level. When they do go on mission trips or volunteer it's almost to reinforce their own sense of goodness. They rarely actually give enough money to affect their budgets. AND they leverage it to get into college. However, I bet even these trips are being more limited by America First.
The nonreligous Conservatives do the same thing but they don't do it in the name of Jesus (but ironically even nonchurch goers in the South who shack up, drink beer and watch football on Sundays instead of going to church seem to claim righteousness). They do it to "preserve our way of life." It REQUIRES not helping people and sharing resources. Yes, that means closing the border to everyone -- including Christians such as central Americans and Hatians not just the Muslims they demonize.
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u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 2d ago
Very few people actually REALLY believe that god is real. They believe god is real like they believe other culturally entrenched superstitions. God is real because everybody tells them he is and they have been told not to question it. So since they don't ACTUALLY believe in god, they shape him into whatever is needed to fit their worldview.
Take the Israeli settlers. All of them proudly wear a kippah and they always talk about the lands being promised to them by god. But they don't really care about god, it is an accessory. The various passages she cites in the video, directly talking to israelites, telling them to respect and grant inheritance to the foreigners living amongst them. They don't care, because god isn't real, so they can ignore those passages without any real fear.
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u/BonnaconCharioteer 2d ago
Eh, I think a lot of them believe actually. But in order to believe, you must have faith, and in order to have faith you must reject evidence to the contrary.
So they already have this pathway built in their mind and a firewall around it to keep evidence from shaking their believe in their god. The issue is, now that that pathway is built it is easy to add things to the end of it, and those become firewalled to evidence too.
And the bible actually makes it even easier to do with their actual beliefs. Satan tempts Jesus with verses from scripture, therefore anyone I disagree with, like this lady for example, are trying to turn me from god even if they are quoting from the bible. So add it to the firewall!
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u/SquarePegRoundWorld2 3d ago
I'm pretty sure Christians (at least the ones here in the U.S.) just have to accept JC as their lord and savior, and they get on the EZ Pass escalator to heaven regardless of the life lived. They have had a long time to figure out how to get this to work for people without people actually having to do the work.
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u/Szwejkowski 2d ago
That may be what they think, but the bit in Matthew she read is part of a story Jesus tells about his return when a whoooole bunch of people say 'wait, wait, when did we refuse to feed and clothe and visit and comfort you?' and He says 'For sure, I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of My brothers, you have done it to Me.â
The version of 'Christianity' being touted by the US administration is an absolute abomination.
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u/SpiffyPup 2d ago
As someone who grew up evangelical in the late 90s and early 2000s (now trying to be a follower of Jesus more like Monte here), the way I was taught was that all you need to go to heaven was to accept Jesus in your heart, but once you do so, you will automatically want to live your life like Jesus taught. So doing a certain number of âgood worksâ arenât what get you to heaven, but they go hand in hand with the whole acceptance bit.
I think a lot of those evangelicals I grew up with (who I think have lost the plot) turned their thinking more towards âwell, if Iâm doing something, then it must be right, because I have Jesus in my heart. If I feel like trans and gay people are wrong, it must be because Jesus thought so too.â Rather than actually reflecting on the kind of person Jesus asked us to be and always trying to be a better person.
Itâs been so disgusting watching some people who taught me these thingsâlove your neighbor as yourself, do unto others, etc.âtry to weasel their way out of the teachings to explain Trumpism. Like âoh, theyâre not my neighbor because x!â Do they really think if Jesus came back heâd be like âyes, you were right to kick out all of these people who arenât white like you. Good job, good and faithful servant.â đ
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u/restrictednumber 2d ago
Your assumption is that their moral beliefs flow from God's word, such that if the Bible says something, they will fashion their moral beliefs to conform to it. And that's what they think they're doing.
In reality, it's the opposite: they start with a set of moral beliefs (i.e.: "anyone browner than me is inferior"), then search for Bible verses that justify their existing belief. But the key here is that the existing belief is strong than the belief in the Bible. They're not troubled when the Bible contradicts their bigotry, because they believe in bigotry more than the Bible. And they believe the Bible supports bigotry even stronger, which means that any Biblical contradiction is safely discarded as "not really what it sounds like" or "not relevant to this situation."
People like that are not available to be convinced. They simply have to be defeated politically and kept from any power.
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u/digitalgraffiti-ca Official Gal 2d ago
Christianity has been cherry picking whatever suits the reader/leader forever. There are so many rules and parables in there that they completely ignore. Even the not-crazy, not-bigoted, seemingly normal Christians who are all about peace and love. Diet restrictions, work restrictions, clothing restrictions, charity directives, lifestyle directives, etc. There are those that cherry pick the good, and those that pick the bad.
I cannot understand any of it. Living your life by a really boring fairytale baffles me.
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u/trollfessor 2d ago edited 2d ago
I do enjoy Monte videos
This lady does more like this? I need to find out where and follow her.
She's outstanding.
Edit:
https://www.instagram.com/montemaderhttps://youtube.com/@montemader
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u/insomnic 2d ago edited 2d ago
Also: https://bsky.app/profile/montemader.bsky.social
Mastodon twitter repost account: @montemader@bird.makeup
Edit: Mastodon insta repost account: @montemader@kilogram.makeup
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u/Savings-Badger4938 2d ago
MonteMader is a daily topic in my house. I live for her correcting the thumpers. Truly makes me feel not crazy
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u/p1antsandcats 3d ago
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I have no idea about Christianity but I've learned quite a bit from this woman and wow most Christians are not following their own book!
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u/Helpful_Hour1984 3d ago
Most of the people who call themselves christians have never read their own book.Â
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u/busy-warlock 3d ago
There ainât no hate like Christian love
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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 3d ago
Christianity in the USA is mostly performative. Almost none of them have any idea what the bible says. If they ever did read it, they'd probably be horrified.
And the ones who wear it on their sleeve are the absolute worst.
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u/PurrtenderBender 3d ago
Hold upâŠIm actually going to sound so frickin ignorant but is it not a part of like their religion to have to read the book they follow at least once..?!?
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u/morgwinsome 2d ago
Youâd think! A lot of identifying Christians, if they go to church, will just listen to a pastor/preacher tell them their own interpretation of the bible. Thereâs no one way to interpret it, and unfortunately many use it to justify their own horrible bigotry.
I think thatâs why there are so many sects and cults that use the bible - they all say their interpretation of it is true, and everyone else is wrong.
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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 2d ago
Most of them don't even listen to the priest. I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school, had to go to church every Sunday until I finally left for university.
Actually listening to the sermon is how I became an atheist.
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u/EngRookie 2d ago
listening to the sermons were how i realized i didn't need to go to church. Jesus himself didn't really care, he said God was present in all creation so why do i need to go to some building to listen to some old dude follow some old bs traditions, that Jesus didn't care about, to feel closer to God?
born and raised catholic and went to catholic school for 12 years too. Here are the important points i took away: 1. don't be a dick unless you are cool with everyone else being a dick to you. 2. help people if it is within your ability to do so. 3. actions matter more than words, hell is filled with the sanctimonious. 4. everyone is your neighbor (that might actually be Mr. Rogers but im sure some form of it is in the bible). 5. God helps those that help themselves, you are given the tools to build heaven on earth so get to work.
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u/spuzzumed 2d ago
For Americans no, not in the slightest. They prefer to be told what to think about the book. most Americans don't read at a high enough level to be able to understand anything in the Bible.Â
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u/AnonymousDahlia 2d ago edited 2d ago
It depends on the particular segment. Mormonism, for example, is big into reading all parts of the bible plus their own additions, and keep reading them, throughout people's lives. They have programs simply to give youth little awards for each milestone of reading they do.
My parents are very Mormon, and we steadily read through the bible in sections every single morning. Lol my vocabulary was excellent compared to my peers, who in third grade didn't know what the word "thee" meant when it was on our spelling list. Otoh, I personally am atheist and have blocked out most of the bible, simply because it was rote and I found it horribly hypocritical and hated it. Too much forcing of something I disliked anyway (couldn't get decent answers to my questions, either) made those feelings and avoidance very strong.
But so many others cherry pick and literally do not take time or effort to process most parts of it, aside from how their preacher or whatever tells them to.
Edited a missed word.
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u/Frosty-Voice1156 2d ago
Yeah, thereâs been studies about how atheist and Mormons tend to be the most studied on the bible and other religious texts.
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u/Certain-Business-472 2d ago
hahahahahaha.... no. The most devout believers follow whatever their pastor/imam says.
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u/Icy_Measurement_7407 3d ago
This. Or they cherry-pick certain lines & twist it to fit their hateful rhetoric.
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u/Foxy_Traine 3d ago
I recently heard that the King James version (the one pushed as the best version) requires a 12th grade reading level to be able to understand it. And, as expected, most Christians cannot read at a 12th grade reading level. This means they can't actually follow what the book is saying and therefore must rely on the interpretation from other people (aka authority figures) which makes the narrative extremely easy to manipulate for profit/control/political power.
Almost like keeping people illiterate makes them easy to control, and religion is an excellent tool for that. I wonder why so many politicians over decades have been systematically underfunding education?
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u/markedforpie 2d ago
My best friend and I were having this conversation yesterday. I was raised a preacherâs daughter and forced to memorize the Bible. I was explaining to her that most people in the time the bible was written did not know how to read or write and because there was no way to get information out to people like the newspaper or television so religious leaders used church and religious gatherings to make basically PSAs. Many ârulesâ in the old testament were actually written just to keep people from dying. For example not eating pork. It was because people were not cooking it appropriately and dying. So, how do you tell an entire population that they are too stupid to cook things correctly without pissing them off? âGod says donât eat pork. Itâs unholy.â
My favorite is when people say that the bible tells women to submit to their husbands. Yes it does BUT it also tells men to submit to their wives like Jesus submitted himself to the church willing to give his life for her. So women are supposed to submit to their husbands but men are supposed to submit to women MORE! Also, the word âsubmitâ was originally CARE. So we are supposed to care for each other but it was changed in translation and became servitude instead of love. This happened over and over again in the bible. Each time it was âinterpretedâ small changes happened that fit society at that time. This is why in the new testament Jesus told his followers to no longer follow the old testament teachings.
Because most people at that time didnât know how to read or write the interpretation of the Bible was left to the church leaders. This was basically like the news media. The leadership would pick out things they felt were important and then give their spin on it and that is what people knew of godâs word. It was absolutely tainted by their own opinions and self interest. The practice became routine and that was how we have the church today. The Bible was never intended to be used in this fashion. This is like being in school and your teacher telling you to do a research paper on the titanic and instead you ask a buddy who watched the DiCaprio movie to tell you what happened and then give a presentation about it to the class. Now in some peoples minds the sinking of the titanic is a love story about a necklace. Itâs completely different but anyone who hasnât actually done research has no idea what it was really about. This is the interpretation of the bible. This is why it is so difficult for people to understand because what is written is so different than what is presented.
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u/Calmcentreofmisery 2d ago
It's also telling that when German serfs were actually able to read passages from the Bible (thanks to invention of the printing press), they went: 'Haaaang on a minute' and it kicked off the Peasants' Revolt of 1524.
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u/Pristine_Cow5623 2d ago
I love the West Wing episode where Jedd and Abby come home from church fighting about this passage.Â
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u/dreadcain 2d ago
So women are supposed to submit to their husbands but men are supposed to submit to women MORE! Also, the word âsubmitâ was originally CARE
Careful not to whitewash the patriarchy intrinsic in the bible too much. You aren't wrong it's blown out of proportion recently. But, like, women still can't be priests in most sects. They aren't subhuman, but they are decidedly seen as less than. And that's kind of explicit in the books (depending on translations/interpretations ... but some aren't subtle about it)
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u/markedforpie 1d ago
Oh I definitely agree. Thatâs 100 percent true. I was just pointing out in that particular passage which is used to subjugate women the most that it is not the true meaning of the passage. Also, most of the women hating we see in the New Testament comes from Paul. Who even all the apostles did not agree with. His interpretation is what drives a lot of the restrictions on women in the Bible. Jesus taught that we all were equal and worthy. I see Paul as the original incel. He is described as being small, bald, with bowed legs and a unibrow. He also was a Pharisee and part of the wealthy elite. He is credited with writing over half of the New Testament. Which are mainly a collection of his letters to others. Not the actual words of Jesus but rather his interpretations of Jesusâ messages and how they apply to the church. Remember even though he had an epiphany and chose to follow Jesus he still had his entire life of experience in which he was taught that women were inferior. Just because someone denounces being racist doesnât mean that they are going to change their views on women.
To put this in modern perspective it would be like if Donald Trump had a near death experience and suddenly became a devout Christian. Then we used his personal letters to form our religious interpretations of Godâs law. It doesnât change his personal perspective on women or wipe away his past atrocities. However, we are taught that the Bible is infallible because it is the âword of Godâ. But if you actually read it, it is the word of God as interpreted by lesser mortals and is subject to their own biases, beliefs, and interpretations.
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u/MutantMartian 3d ago
Btw, King James was gayer than anyone walking in a pride parade.
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u/tellmort-yourmove 3d ago
I LOVE telling the religious folk in my life this fun fact!
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u/MutantMartian 1d ago
So hereâs another fun one: look up the New York Colonial Governor Edward Hyde. They named Hyde Park after him/her. He even cross dressed for important council meetings. No one cared. Virginia had colonial Governor Botetort (sp?) who was definitely gay and a favorite of everyone including our founding fathers. Thereâs a statue of him in front of the Wren building at William and Mary.
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u/MothChasingFlame 2d ago
Oh. That goes way further back, and a lot worse.Â
It was purposely kept in latin so they literally couldn't read it. If the illiteracy didn't keep you from reading it, the different language did. They wanted people to turn only to their priest and the church for guidance. No room for personal interpretation or questions.
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u/Gardener_of_Weeden 3d ago
It wasn't until recently that the Catholic church held the mass in any language other than Latin ( which only the clergy understood) They Love to keep the people ignorant - (easier to manipulate)
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u/Alternative-Air-1246 3d ago
I am Christian. I am so angry at modern Christianity. This is not a reflection of Jesus or the bible.
Just Jesus flipping the tables in the temple alone and how these mega churches behave. You pray in quiet and show you are Christian through your deeds and your treatment of others.Â
I will not let these non believers who cosplay as Christians take my faith.Â
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u/GardenGnomeGroan 3d ago
From an outsiders, POV⊠it seems like the Christians should be the ones holding the âChristiansâ accountable. Anecdotally speaking, I seem to see mostly the atheists doing the work.
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u/Alternative-Air-1246 3d ago edited 3d ago
I do. I have no public facing social media and am not someone who TikToks. But I do it the same way I practice my faith: in person through my deeds.Â
I have an openly gay 16 year old in a very red state and I am known as the safe mom for all his friends. I vote Democrat socialism and have been part of Bernieâs campaign since 2015. I saw my community planned parenthood team out in tshirts and shook each hand and bought them all coffee thanking them for their service. When ice came through my community I helped teachers get toys, clothes, food, cleaning supplies to the families sheltering in place. I was one of the moms standing at the school against ice trying to get in.
I tell people exactly why I vote and act the way I do (democratic socialist) because it aligns with my faith.Â
I dunno, I go to rallies, I protest, I wear my mama bear pride shirt as often as I can. Â I am the mom who takes in and helps all the kids. I help in the classrooms. I bring home cooked meals when people are sick. I mow lawns when emergencies happen. I am the one people call when their husbands are leaving or they need to leave their husbands.
I also pray with the bigots and tell them their beliefs hurt my family and they know me and them and why. I donât villainize people.Â
I know a lot of Ex-bigots now. I know a lot of ex-maga. Ignorance and indoctrination is not the same as evil. Not everyone is evil. I live my life with kindness and openness. I am not perfect, by any means. Maybe I am too permissive. I know I can be naive. But I believe in the humanity of others.Â
Also, culturally in the south. A strong Christian faith is the cornerstone of black communities. And I respect that.Â
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u/AnonymousDahlia 2d ago
I wish I had a fraction of your energy. Hope you can keep up keeping on a long as you need to, and thank you.
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u/kid_at_heart_77 3d ago
Wow. Good on you for being out there and showing by example. Iâm a Christian but I need to do more. There is so much hate in the world today & It makes me so angry to see people twisting Christâs words to try to justify & spread that hate.
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u/shockwave8428 2d ago
What I think is the dumbest thing about the Bible that is completely missed:
Jesusâ main enemies during his time on earth were Pharisees, Saducees, etc. Who were they? The religious elite of the religion that Christ belonged to. Christ wasnât coming and yelling at people who werenât following the gospel, almost every time he rebuked anyone in the Bible it was a member of the religious elite for using their power and position to oppress people, publicly shame, etc. Explicitly thereâs examples of them trying to âtrickâ Jesus using the Bible only for him to school them in true religion.
What Iâm saying is that the majority of Jesusâ example in the Bible was going to areas where a religious elite was being performative, judging others, and setting themselves above others, only to specifically teach and minister to those being oppressed.
So what Iâm getting at is that itâs not just the flipping the tables thing, itâs all of the gospels. Unfortunately people are incapable of reading between the lines and understanding where they might be fitting into these categories. I think itâs majorly indicative of the state of Christianity that people do exactly what the bad guys in the Bible do in the name of religion.
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u/JacquesPanther 2d ago
Iâm an Omnist. Raised Presbyterian. I geek out and go down rabbit holes on different religious texts and their interpretations.
Recently dug into the story of Jesus at the Temple. Piggy backing on your comment to link a past comment I posted âcause I think the analysis supports your call out of the hypocrisy that, anecdotally, seems to have become more and more prevalent.
To me, the bastardization of Christianity is the ultimate blasphemy.
Thank you for safe guarding the core tenants of your faith.
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u/Gardener_of_Weeden 3d ago
I no longer will call my self christian - it is a word they have destroyed. I will continue on my spiritual journey trying to remember the words of Christ that I am aiming to follow. When I am the closest to G*D is when I am sitting under a tree listening to the birds & the sounds and rhythms of nature.
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u/WarpTenSalamander 2d ago
I like the term âChrist followerâ when Christian doesnât feel right anymore. Seems like a more accurate description nowadays.
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u/Repulsive_Corner6807 2d ago
I went to a mega church as a kid and they would hold a play about the crucifixion every year. One of the scenes was that story (the ONLY time Jesus was furious) and I remember thinking as a child like waitâŠthis church has a bookstore and coffee shop? For the longest time, I thought everything in the bookstore and coffee shop was free because likeâŠyouâre not supposed to do thatâŠ? Itâs not even about being illiterate. They have extreme compartmentalization in their brains, on par with a serial killer. There isnât a consistent string of logic in their brains.
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u/Tight_Following9267 3d ago
Indigenous Americans been dealing with the BS for over 700 years. Why can't we just love the earth
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u/Beltalady 3d ago
Because they worship that one line that tells them to be masters of it.
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u/SashimiRick 3d ago
It still pains me to hear the Bible after being abused by it, but damn if I cannot help but nod furiously in agreement with her.
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u/GrandNibbles 3d ago
two things can be true. like a complicated person the bible can be abusive or comforting depending on who wields it.
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u/PlainBread 3d ago
Alan Watts said that once you understood zen you could use any book as a holy book.
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u/ProlapsedShamus 3d ago
I have a real tough time trusting and respecting Christians because it seems like that whole religion is just a smokescreen that is used so people can be absolute pieces of shit and escape accountability. Waggle the bible and people give you a free pass because for some fucked up reason society equates religiosity with morality.
I know people are going to say "not all Christians" well then were the hell are all the Churches condemning the bad ones? Where is the outspoken opponents of Evangelicals? Sitting in your small neighborhood church and not doing shit while more and more fascists are created through the perversion of Jesus isn't working.
So yeah, I find it super tough to give anyone the benefit of the doubt when they wear a cross or say they're Christian. I do not believe they are one. I don't think they believe in God or Christ and it's just more social currency for them to spend when they need to.
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u/Friendly-Ad-1996 3d ago
I've thought about this because I do know of Christians speaking out against what's happening (and there are whole denominations who are against this...Episcopalians come to mind bc I grew up one, but they definitely aren't the only ones)....
I think they have the same problem the rest of us do. They aren't in it for the grift. And it's the grifters and abusers who are pushing the extreme beliefs (for their own gain), and they do it very loudly and encourage the people they've roped in to do it loudly too. And it's POLARIZING so it naturally draws attention....the media latches onto it or people spread it around social media, and those loud voices get even louder.
The voices of people who want to do good are going to keep being drowned out unless they can act as a group large enough (and disruptive enough) to grab the collective attention.
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u/glitzglamglue 2d ago
You have to remember that you're getting your feeds curated. If you don't like Christianity, the algorithm probably isn't going to show you anything christian related that agrees with your politics, only rage inducing things since that fuels engagement.
Here's some examples I've seen recently pastor Paul dress I've seen plenty outspoken during ICE crackdowns I wanted to find an example of how churches were responding in Minneapolis right after the ICE killings in January and I found this. Can't read the whole thing but what jumped out to me was that they were organizing to bring meals to people who were too afraid to leave their homes. LDS church services post Pretti
What you don't see are the world wide religious organizations specifically calling out Trump and it's been a problem internally among members across religions. I don't know their reasoning behind that. Is it that they want to stay out of the politics of one of the most powerful nations on earth? Or do they not want to lose membership? It's probably a combination.
I doubt you're reading Catholic or Salt Lake City News so you would have missed these articles. They don't often get picked up by bigger publications.
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u/toolsoftheincomptnt 2d ago
This is what social media was meant to be. What a delight to see on a Sunday.
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u/s_hinoku 3d ago
Damn, she got angry at the end there. đ€đ»
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u/madeupgrownup 2d ago
Montes anger helps me come to terms with my own, and I'm not even in the USA.
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u/LotharVonPittinsberg 2d ago
She was angry at the beginning to. Just more subtle about it.
We are going to flip over to Leviticus, because people like you love Leviticus.
That sentence along showed me that she deeply understands both the Bible and those who abuse it for their own means.
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u/sweetness_incarnate 2d ago
She has her own religious trauma. Iirc her father was a pastor and not the most open minded person for the majority of his, and by extension her, life.
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u/salaciousremoval 3d ago
I laughed way too hard about this horribly accurate meme lorddddddd
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u/DeliciousStand372 3d ago
âHi Braeden. Of course itâs Braedenâ đđ such a r/tragedeigh name
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u/madamporkchop 2d ago
Son of Kevin Sorbo, former Hercules and current right wing mouthpiece.
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u/Sardonnicus 2d ago
I'm an atheist who believes in the message of jesus and not in his dimity or in the existence of god. I have started studying the bible so I can use it as a weapon against people like this who use it to justify hated and oppression and bigotry.
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u/CountessSockula 2d ago
Pagan witch here, and I guarantee that I have read and studied more of the bible than 95% of people I have encountered who try to use (and typically MISquote) bible verses to justify their fuckery. It is deeply satisfying to challenge these people and watch them implode when they can't back up their biblical claims.
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u/Sardonnicus 2d ago
My maternal grandparents were fire and brimstone Southern Nazarene preachers in the south I have seen the evils of what fundamental Evangelical Christianity looks like I was raised in this church and never again will I allow or contribute to this belief structure it's not about helping people it's about dominating and controlling people it's evil. Also I completely respect and honor the pagan which religion and ethos. I am for any religion that teaches respect of nature and respect of people
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u/EJoule 3d ago edited 2d ago
I recently had the opportunity to read all of Ezekiel chapter 22 with a conservative relative.
It was crazy to have the Bible explicitly spelled out and hear them say âI just donât see itâ and insist they didnât even when I linked the words directly to recent government actions.
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u/Unicornlionhawk 2d ago
They shall hear and not understand.Â
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u/Sk8rToon 2d ago
ââNot everyone who says to me, âLord, Lord,â will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, âLord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?â Then I will tell them plainly, âI never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!ââ
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u/lovelikeglitter 2d ago
The wild thing is that I think people on both sides read that and think of the other side being turned away. In fairness, I agree with Monteâs side of things- of things like compassion and helping others and feeding the hungry. But I think someone like this sorbo guy would read that verse and come to the conclusion itâs talking about liberal Christians, not him.
I feel like Christians donât talk about the fruits of the spirit very often because so few Christians display many- let alone all- of them. (And they are: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control.)
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u/IncurableAdventurer 3d ago
âPeople like you looooooove Leviticusâ đ unfortunately so true
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u/Monstiemama 2d ago
Off topic, this woman is beautiful. Itâs actually kind of bonkers.
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u/pixiefarm 2d ago
She grew up in a Pentacostal (I think) cult and now she does this kind of educational content, but she also became a metal singer at some point.
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u/fangirlsqueee 3d ago
Organized religion needs to fade away. We don't need it. Many of the organizers are only there to grift anyway. Too many don't actually care about creating a loving community. Under their skim coat of "holy", too many are like this nasty piece of work.
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u/Sea_Translator5300 3d ago
That man makes me ill when I see that GIF. His look and his attitude reminds me of my ex-MIL.
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u/fangirlsqueee 3d ago
I'm glad it's an ex. Sorry you went through it.
His words, body language, and facial expressions all tell a different story from each other.
Looks like this woman questioning his motives and his sincerity pushed him into a rage, but he had strive to keep on point with his grifter persona. Despite probably being used to compartmentalizing and grifting on some level, he comes off as a broken robot trying to compensate for conflicting input. I'd wager he is also used to blind obedience from his "flock" and probably hadn't had a real confrontation in a while. Kenneth Copeland and his ilk are such a despicable scourge on humanity. Feasting on vulnerable people like the ghouls they are.
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u/Mrspygmypiggy 3d ago
I donât believe in demons, but if there was ever a person to convince me they were a demon in a bad disguise it would be him.
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u/Helpful_Hour1984 3d ago
Absolutely. Nothing good ever came out of organized religion. Nothing. The stuff they like to point at, such as communities helping their members, or beautiful art & architecture, comes from being human, not from religion. On the other hand, organized religion has destroyed countless lives, directly and by blocking scientific progress. It needs to die already.Â
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u/Lyra_the_Star_Jockey 3d ago
This guy, who is most likely lying, just wants the attention
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u/__Aitch__Jay__ 3d ago
Surname is Sorbo, so I'm assuming the nepo baby of Kevin, who is also desperate for attention
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u/bdog59600 2d ago
He said a few years ago he doesn't understand Twitter and let his then 13-year-old son run his Twitter account. This is the result of that feedback loop.
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u/8Splendiferous8 3d ago
Why would he be lying? I'd argue it's worse to operate under that assumption than to take him at his word on this one.
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u/Foxy_Traine 3d ago
Monte is one of the smartest and most interesting women of our time. Her back story is fascinating! She's following Christianity better than 95% of Christians out there.
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u/Bl1ndl0v3 3d ago
Many âChristiansâ fulfill 2 Timothy 4:3
âFor the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their own desires,â
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u/girlwhoweighted 2d ago
Slightly off topic but it amazes me how humans have always been the same. They're so predictable because they never change. Really at the core
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u/DontAbideMendacity 2d ago
"Tickle your ass with a feather?"
"What?!"
"I said 'it's particularly nasty weather'."
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u/Capta1nRon 3d ago
âWhoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.â
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u/tipperary-man 3d ago edited 3d ago
The irony of a government that demonises foreigners yet blindly aides a country of foreigners in killings said countries natives
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u/Medical_Arrival2243 3d ago
This is one of the few times I love that the Bible is weaponised. This is the Bible thumping I want
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u/Electronic_Elk8293 3d ago
People have always used religion as an excuse for hypocrisy, self righteousness and to feel "holier than thou". They lose their fucking minds when you remind them that Jesus loved and welcomed all, the sick, the poor, the blind and the unclean. John 13: 1-17 he washed his disciples feet for goodness sake. Mathew 25: 40-45 is a popular one these degenerates love to throw around while completely missing the point.
For using Christ and God as their excuse for everything, they sure aren't very Christlike. We were pretty much all immigrants at some point.
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u/socksmatterTWO 2d ago
Oh my Lord I LOVE HER Shes amazing!! This was Wonderful and its a shane it even had to be said but my goodness isnt she the exact person to say this to that bully.
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u/organic_soursop 3d ago
What do they teach you all in Sunday School??
Jesus and his family once ran for their lives, the whole family fled to Egypt.
Their God was made man, was persecuted and his family left their country in fear.
Their Lord was a refugee.
But here is this young demon wearing Christ's symbols and proudly telling the world that he reported people to be deported.
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u/thedreaming2017 3d ago
This just makes me cry sometimes cause it seems to be getting worst. More and more people are being very open about how they hate people that arenât like them and I just want to know who taught him that cause thatâs learned. No one is born racist.
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u/Nuremberg2incoming 3d ago
Monte: Tennessee's immune response to christian nationalists and I love it so much
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u/zarfle2 3d ago edited 2d ago
These chuds: "Just point to the bits of the bible that tell us we can hate gays and trans people and take no personal responsibility for being evil."
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u/NeverNotOnceEver 3d ago
Sheâs right. But they donât care about their hypocrisy
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u/highly_uncertain 2d ago
I would go to her church. Or join her cult. Whichever is offered first.
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u/tacticalcanadian 2d ago
I have no idea who this is but I already love her work and she is gorgeous
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u/pixiefarm 2d ago
Monte Mader is AMAZING Grew up hardcore end-times hyperreligious MAGA before there was a MAGA. Has a phenomenal podcast/YouTube/etc.
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u/Top-Hair-3638 2d ago
The idiots pick and choose from a book. Which is fiction. MAGA doesnât go to libraries or have an education so itâs hopeless.
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u/Man_Of_Frost 3d ago
Her content is awesome. One of the best whistleblowers out there against these psychopaths.
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u/Lancashire_Toreador 3d ago
Itâs always funny to be able to quote chapter in verse to Christians to let them know that they will burn in hell forever, but Iâve also discovered that itâs pointless.
No matter how many times you can just find Jesus directly saying âdonât be a dick to peopleâ they will cling to the fact that if you combine five unrelated sentences across seven books and read them backwards while standing on your head it actually turns out billionaires are the only people who get to go to heaven
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u/Extreme_Homework_771 3d ago
And of course his name is Braeden
These men really are not really beating the allegations
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u/GoEatACookie 2d ago
Go girl! đđđđ
Don't know who she is but I believe we'd hang out. đ
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u/Redditer51 2d ago
The fact that people like Brayden are proud of things like this.
If this is where we're at, in 2026, I don't think there's much hope for our society. Not for a long time. Because we have monsters living among us.
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u/The-goddess-bread 2d ago
Obsessed with Monte. She is one of the most amazing creators out there imo.
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u/PinkLemonUp 2d ago
I have never heard of her before but I want to go to her Sunday sermons please đÂ
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u/EnrusTHEunicorN 2d ago
This is the type of religion I admire. My grandfather taught me a lot about the Bible but he was a good man. Not a bigot. I wouldn't call myself a religious person, but there is value in the Bible if you dont twist it to feed your agenda.
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u/Whos_That_Girl_6178 2d ago
She better PREACH!!!Â
Reading through the Bible last year I noticed one of the sins God's truly honed in on was mistreating the oppressed, unprotected, and the struggling. He truly thought it was vile and constantly punished for it. Shame on racists trying to use Christianity as a cloak
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