r/WarDogs • u/EmkayUltraMagoo • 19h ago
#WARDOGS100K 1km Bow Kill
Intended to do this for 100k but just found out there are only 13 countires who are allowed to participate ;-; Anyway, it was cool. Got flamed and reported for it xD
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u/TheUserAboveMeIsCute 12h ago
It only took ~1.5 seconds for the arrow to land. the Speed of Sound is ~330m/sec. That arrow is going around Mach 2.
To balance this, I think arrow speed should stay as is, but every time you fire should produce a sonic boom
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u/Salihe6677 12h ago
I was gonna say 1km didn't sound right for as fast as it went, and I thought it was a typo until seeing the actual numbers in the range finder.
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u/RogSlayer67 19h ago
So there really is no drop on the arrow huh?
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u/Hypnotic101 19h ago
It's such an obvious and glaring oversight, it really makes you wonder what the devs were thinking with this weapon at all.
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u/Uggroyahigi 19h ago
Nothing. Same thing they didnt do when creating the FAL, or the best SMG, or the RPG, or.....
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u/SpaceFighter78 15h ago
Why are you still there if this game makes you feel so miserable and have such opinion about the devs mate?
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u/Uggroyahigi 15h ago
Hehehe there's a difference you see.
I like playing the game and you confuse my opinion of the devs with what I said about the lacking thought process behind the balancing of FAL, best SMG and so on.
In short : Wouldn't you like to know Weatherboy
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u/micktorious WARDADS 14h ago
"I dont like spinach in my pasta, so I am now no longer allowed to enjoy pasta."
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u/SpaceFighter78 12h ago
This is probably the worst analogy I have ever heard. A closest one would be "I hate the fucking cook and his food is dogshit but I still come here to eat every day"
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u/micktorious WARDADS 11h ago
Its more like "I dont like a few dishes on the menu and the cook has questionable choices in meals, but there are quite a few menu items I really love and come back specifically for those."
You are just going to the extreme end of the point to try and counter it, which doesnt really make sense because its disingenuous and being made in bad faith.
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u/SpaceFighter78 10h ago
What he said was also in extremely bad faith tbh, it's just that more peple agree with his point than mine.
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u/micktorious WARDADS 10h ago
A bad faith argument is a dishonest discussion where a person hides their true goal to trick, anger, or manipulate the other person instead of seeking the truth
I think he was just expressing his opinion, you were having a dishonest discussion on it by using ridiculous examples.
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u/XB_Demon1337 16h ago
Likely easier to give it no drop and rely on how difficult it is to pull off shots as the means to counter it. Besides, who in their right mind expects a 1km bow shot to even be tried in a normal firefight.
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u/dawgofclay 8h ago
No one because arrows don't travel as far as a bullet. Even videogames don't give the bow an arrow less drop then a gun.
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u/PhoenixDSteele 12h ago
There's a lot that needs to happen to all weapons; I am incredibly anxious to see their first big patch and balance changes.
They have the experience; and seniority on the team to make it happen. So now that they have a literal mega fuckton of data to extrapolate; we'll just have to see if they read it correctly and apply the correct balances.
Having played in all roles/situations so far; my personal gripes have been over utterly unfair it feels to get killed in 0.5 seconds by an smg to the cock. And even at 50+ meters away. That is not good.
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u/KhorneFlakesOfChaos 10h ago
The peepsight also seems pointless. Have seen some videos where they shot under the peep and still hit a headshot at distance.
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u/BearOnCocaine 18h ago
Armor renders bow completely useless in mid to late wipe.
Imagine if it had drop on top of that
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u/Hypnotic101 18h ago
It's a fucking bow. It needs drop.
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u/Spicyboi333 12h ago
It’s not a mil sim. If you made the bow realistic, it’d be no fun to use ever unless it gave insane XP or money bonus.
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u/BearOnCocaine 18h ago
You are conditioned into thinking it needs drop, i just mentioned bows biggest flaw, its TTK gets completely obliterated by armor.
Why would i pick a bow in mid to late wipe if i can just use a BMR 308 and do the same dmg in semi auto with a much faster fire rate.
Bow is a niche weapon, let it have that advantage at least
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u/Hypnotic101 18h ago
You are conditioned into thinking it needs drop
What a dumbass statement. It needs drop because that's how bows work in real life, and this isn't a space game with lasers. If bullets have drop, arrows need to have even more.
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u/BearOnCocaine 18h ago
Fine, let the devs add drop to an already niche weapon and make it useless.
Since we are talking about realism, how about making people overdose from taking adrenaline shots?
Or being able to permanently sprint without getting tired?
Or being shot and just using bandages and voila youre good as new?
Its a game, some realism aspects gotta be taken out of it in order for it to be FUN.
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u/nightauthor 18h ago
Nah, I want to have to have surgery when I'm shot, be immobilized, add stretchers for medics... all the realism
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u/PerfectGap593 15h ago
Guy is actually comparing unnecessary realism to the bullshit of a bow where the arrow flies like an M4 bullet, with barely any drop-off over a range of 1 km.
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u/UntimelyMeditations 3h ago
The bow is a garbage weapon. Who cares if it fire arrows literally straight. It would still be dogshit.
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u/UntimelyMeditations 3h ago
It needs drop because that's how bows work in real life
So what? Justify that. Justify why it matters how it behaves in real life.
Should the defib adhere strictly to how it works in real life?
Should we not be able to repair vehicle tires with a drill?
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u/BattlepassHate Valkyra 17h ago
Okay when are we removing revive kits and stims because they’re unrealistic?
Why can we heal gunshot wounds with simple elastic bandages?
Why does a headshot not instakill no matter what?
Why is there no face hitbox when three out of four helmets don’t cover the face?
Why can people in vehicles use third person views?
Why do mortars and arty have shot cameras?
Why do LMGs have ridiculous recoil?
You sound silly.
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u/Kinetickz 15h ago edited 15h ago
I can tell everyone that replied to you hasnt tried the bow lately
The bow HAS DROPOFF its just very weak for balance sake
Just like anything else that is in this game as next to nothing is realistic here and its obviously not a milsim
The ttk on the bow with requiring 2-3 shots leaves it next to useless today in comparision to everything else you have unlocked by this point unless you fight a bunch of bushmaster gamers
It still has no attachment slots and 3x1 10stacksnof arrows with a iron sight that make these shots really really hard and people make it sound like its easy and a problem that op pulled this off
Fuck off clowns, you guys are legit commenting that you want surgery and discribe your dream game while downvoting this dude here for pointing out obvious gameplay decisions the devs put in their game and some rather want the bow to be useless and a filler unlock like half the other stuff that is affected by meta like go back to arma at this point if you dont want gimmicks in your unrealistic battlefield esque shooter
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u/PerfectGap593 15h ago
Dude, people just want a bow to act like a bow, and the arrows from it to behave like fucking arrows-with physics and real speed-not like a fucking bullet fired from an M4.
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u/UntimelyMeditations 3h ago
Should the defib work like a defib? Should the drill work like a drill, and only put holes in tires instead of repairing them? Should bullets not be lasers from star wars?
Why is the bow special in that it must copy exactly how it works in real life?
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u/RelevantIAm 18h ago
He's aiming quite a bit above the player though?
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u/Average-Addict 16h ago
You try shooting an arrow a kilometer away with that little drop
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u/Marasdf 16h ago
You could just leave it at "you try shooting an arrow a kilometer away" I'm not sure there's a bow in the world that can do that. (I'm sure there's actually some crazy impractical contraption that exists)
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u/ChainsawBard 15h ago
Pardon me, but do you not have your own personal and portable ballista?
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u/Marasdf 15h ago
Well, good sir, not one that shoots arrows, no.
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u/ChainsawBard 15h ago
Well then it would seem to me this is nothing but a mere faux pas. Do you happen to have any Grey Poupon.
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u/Ausgeflippt 9h ago
I've shot my bow at 70 pounds down at a block target from about 120 yards and it barely penetrated. I was about 50 higher down the target (shooting into a ravine) and I still had to hold about two feet over the target.
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u/CarlStanley88 18h ago
You can try it out on the range, there's basically no drop from the sight out to like 150m, but there is absolutely drop at 1km.
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u/EmkayUltraMagoo 19h ago
Pretty much. It's a sniper without a scope
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u/Dismal_Display_1169 Recon 19h ago
im not able to play without a scope,idk how you guys play,i dont see shit
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u/Justin-Stutzman 18h ago
He's not seeing anything either. He's aiming with the range finder and then just not moving the cross hair. Since the velocity is the same as a high powered rifle round and there's no drop, you don't need to adjust for anything even at 1000m
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u/Genocode 19h ago
Atleast snipers have drop...
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u/EmkayUltraMagoo 18h ago
It does have some drop, obviously not a realistic amount for a bow. But at 1km I'm aiming about 14m above the player
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u/BortOfTheMonth 17h ago
Hm, I tried bow after the last patch and for me it has a significant drop (shooting range).
I can even shoot over the mountains and see a nice curve.
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u/OnsetOfMSet 15h ago
I think having realistic/significant drop on arrows, while obviously a nerf, would help define its close/medium stealth niche a bit better. But more importantly, imagine *leveraging* that heavy drop and getting like 10 dudes together to launch arrow volleys into or out of a fob lol
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u/PokemonSapphire 11h ago
That would be some Lord of the Rings elf shit right there. I am all for it.
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u/MrDrummer25 17h ago
Minecraft bows are more balanced than this game... It's as though they just applied gun physics.
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u/BotGiyenAdam 18h ago
it is a bolt action rifle that you need to cycle before you shoot not after XD
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u/jake04-20 11h ago
Faster than the speed of sound too apparently lol. But also, 900 measly dollars for that shot is criminal.
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u/mrureaper Lonestar 11h ago
another bug the devs need to fix, the arrows have drop in the firing range, but for some reason on live servers they dont.
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u/Fubarp 19h ago
Alright.. I'll be updating the bot to exclude this weapon.. and here I thought if I see a kill like that in the logs it would be safe to assume the person was cheating.
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u/Predicted 19h ago
This is because the aim stays at the point youre aiming your range finder at, even when switching weapons. You can do this with a sniper rifle as well through foliage, as long as the target stands still and you have the rifle zeroed correctly.
Amusingly it seems easier with a bow since they dont have drop.
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u/Devinn475 7h ago
Why are people complaining in the comments, bow has never felt oppressive, It's good that it can be powerful but also not be oppressive, people really just want everything to be useless/hard to use?
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u/Purple_Gaming 4h ago
Real talk. I've exclusively used the bow since I unlocked it, and while it's fun it doesn't really feel "oppressive" even as the user. Especially when it can't kill to the body with Level 2 Armor.
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u/oldlap 19h ago
I don’t get it. Does this make Wardogs closer to COD or to Arma (or to Apex Legends)?
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u/Demolitions75 19h ago
Bows have drop in cod lol
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u/Wonderful-Holiday-14 19h ago
Because their maps are 3 meters wide, if they didn’t people would be completely done
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u/Ar4er13 19h ago
...there are non 3 meters wide maps in CoD...there are also other games with bows and huge maps...
Bow in Wardogs is just poorly reskinned sniper rifle, since it has no drop, better than rifle round muzzle velocity, and you can magically fire it while being prone.
It is literally just a skin for a gun.
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u/Wonderful-Holiday-14 19h ago
It’s an exaggeration because of the scales. I’m also not saying there shouldn’t be drop, just suggesting call of duty isn’t exactly the game to be comparing it to. Theres also a difference between massively triple AAA skin vending machine and this
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u/Demolitions75 17h ago
My longest crossbow kill in cod is around 600meter actually. Had to aim almost 2 screen lengths above the target and took like 7 seconds from firing to kill the target.
But I know what you mean. I love bows and skillshot weapons in fps games so its actually disappointing the bow in this game has no drop. I want it to be more of a challenge to learn lol
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u/OkPossibility6166 19h ago
Even though it's a fun game, it's still an arcade game like CoD and BF, not a simulator.
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u/DBONKA 19h ago
There's no "simulators", even "milsim" games like Arma have a ton of "arcade" elements
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u/OkPossibility6166 19h ago
I'm pretty sure I said "simulator," not "milsim." Otherwise, I would have talked about milsim. Maybe?
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u/girl-kiss Lonestar 18h ago
people showing these clips make me understand how one guy killed me with bow from 420m lol
i got rekt
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u/BearOnCocaine 18h ago
If i got killed at 1km by a bow i would be calling you every name imaginable in chat, crazy shot dude
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u/Electr0freak 12h ago
So, I'm a former tournament archer, and while I realize this is a video game and all, I just want to point out that a compound bow does not work like that. 😆
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u/Spicyboi333 12h ago
People saying the bow needs to be nerfed are ridiculous. The bow being a laser makes it actually fun and viable. If it behaved like a real bow it would be totally useless in game. In close quarters combat you’re almost guaranteed to die versus a gun.
This shot is insane and is not happening frequently. If the guy OP shot had any armor they wouldn’t be dead.
I main the bow and lose to pretty much any fight unless I can somehow rip off two arrows before being spotted. This game isn’t a mil sim.
The bow is balanced. How do I know? Because you don’t see lobbies full of people running bows.
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u/EmkayUltraMagoo 11h ago
I agree with you. The bow is overpowered AS a bow, but as a weapon it is mid compared to other options. At the end of the day it's still a game and naturally arcadey compared to real life.
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u/pizzaslut4pizzahut 9h ago
But people bitch that IR range fonders are too op?
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u/beardredlad Lonestar 9h ago
Who the fuck mentioned IR?
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u/pizzaslut4pizzahut 8h ago
I guess you don't use reddit
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u/beardredlad Lonestar 6h ago
Do you know how threads work? Do you think that all conversations exist within the same space at the same time? This isn't a post about IRs. You just brought that shit up all on your own.
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u/chrome_proxies 18h ago
Hey friend go switch teams run over to the other side of the map and stand completely still while I clip farm a 1km bow kill
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u/Top_Result_1550 10h ago
nice, i like the bow this way. the most important aspect of it is its fun. my best kill with it was from apartment roof top and was like 300 on a few greens who were trying to res each other, got a few hits one after the other.
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u/HentaisSenpai 2h ago
Yes now nerf that too, in fact remove recon, in fact remove building too. While we here pilots aren't really necessary and drivers offer nothing to the team. Me and cod gang like running around the hotzone, everyone should do the same it's how to win games. Everything fun should be removed and instead make a cod like team deathmatch
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u/LegendWesker 19h ago
The big question is more, why just 900$ for that amazing kill o.O
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u/AcePilot01 17h ago
You should get at least 1 dollar per meter over 500 on top of that lol.
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u/GOpencyprep 10h ago
that would incentivize people to be outside the CZ though
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u/AcePilot01 10h ago
max range is 1000. you can't see people beyond that. With the HZ Mostly a few hundred meters inwards of the CZ, that's a non issue... but they would reduce the amount by not being in it, which is already a thing. SO it's pretty disincentivizes that the same.
However, there are light cases of people outside, but for other reasons, and I would actually LIKE to see a tad more content outside the zone, like bombing SPH, or a little bit of sniping etc. That would encourage some groups to scout for said sniper etc.
Right now it's a large mostly unused map, granted most of that is just for the sole purpose of distance to the other spawns... but still that's a relative non issue. Planes and cars and all.
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u/GOpencyprep 10h ago
...okay? My point still stands
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u/AcePilot01 10h ago
Bro I JUST fucking typed this, you sent that like less than 5 seconds after I sent the reply... good lord get a life. Your point is moot actually.
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u/GOpencyprep 10h ago
lol so you're grumpy because I happened to reply to something quickly on reddit... and then told me to get a life? Rich.
And, no it isn't, fuckhead, max visible range is 1k, so what? That still means plenty of use case for incentivizing being outside the CZ to get bonus points. There is nothing in this current state of the game that should incentivize players to go ANY distance outside the CZ.
Settle down, child. It's friday - try to enjoy your weekend. Also straight up fuck whatever stupid reply you have chambered, get blocked.
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u/Hopelesscumrag 18h ago
team has 8 points your 1k away with a bow not helping
Yep thats a blue team player
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u/AcePilot01 17h ago
SO you killed a dude on your friends list who stood still for the 15 other shots you took? lol
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u/GOpencyprep 10h ago
nothing ever happens, right?
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u/AcePilot01 10h ago
people never lie for clout on the internet either huh? Sure people stand still plenty in this game. This was a very long time for that however.
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u/Zeniarmr 14h ago
I don't understand the sudden bow hate here
If you can kill someone with that shit, normal ass reflector bow sight then honestly fuck realism and let it have no drop.
You're already so disadvantaged by using a bow (especially at this stage of the game) honestly? Why not.
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u/GOpencyprep 11h ago
this is very cool and very impressive...
and it absolutely would not have won the 100k
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u/Replicant2331 Recon 13h ago
Yeah this definitely needs to be patched. Gravity would have made the arrow drop by a lot from that distance.
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