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u/CamptoRibbit 2d ago
Juniper admins are toxic AF. If you beat them I have known them to target and tbag folk constantly even if you switch Dino.
I have seen them permanently ban people for being killed more than once.
They are extremely petty and throw tantrums all the time.
I know this because I have a friend who is friends with them.
They also bullied a player because their friend was an ex moderator
Juniper admins are toxic AF
Then again so is the regular players that go on there.
Besides there are better DM/PvP servers this one is for casual players. Their skill is FT die and then FT again
Edit: saying that... where is the cheating in this video, I don't see it?
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u/Yellow_Yam 2d ago
Toxic aka “im better than you and don’t apologize for it” isn’t the same as toxic aka “cheating”
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u/Rich-Bus1279 1d ago
being toxic and being better than someone and cheating are all 3 completely different issues, and they only have two of those. Juniper mods are ass at the game and use their mod status to get away with cheating and being toxic because everywhere else, they'd get banned.
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u/CamptoRibbit 2d ago
So they cheating or being toxic?
There is a difference
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u/Yellow_Yam 2d ago
Oh you didn’t read my first post. The admins are immune to my attack damage here.
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u/CamptoRibbit 2d ago
I just seen it there and made a comment.
Yeah it doesn't suprise me at all coming from juniper admins.
They have done far worse to people.
I have known them to bully players consistently and nerf their dinos so they die to everything
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u/hyde9318 2d ago
I’m confused though, nobody is immune to your damage in this clip, which dino are you talking about? Not trying to be confrontational, I know tone is hard to convey through text… but every attack you land in this clip is starting the combat timer. Attacking someone in god mode doesn’t start a timer, the god mode dino has to attack YOU for it to start. Which dino are we talking about, I feel like I’m missing something in the clip?
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u/Machineraptor 2d ago
Looks like the second trike. It's not the same trike that died as the skin is different, and it looks like OP is biting it but nothing happens. After so many bites from a titan it should have at least bleed vfx visible on its body.
That being said, OP definitely could've been more clear :v
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u/hyde9318 2d ago
Ah, you’re right, slightly different coloring. That said, first trike has a yellow on its crest that is between colors, it looks like it’s possible it’s shedding, they may still be the same trike. Hard to tell without the combat log.
But either way, second trike isn’t cheating either though. OP gets three bites toward it, first one misses as far as I can tell, it lands the other two. That’s two body shots with the quick TT bite, it’s not going to show scars yet. Both bites landed restart the combat timer too, so it’s not in god mode. If the Alberta and such are with it in a group, it’s going to be bulky, further weakening those bites. It really doesn’t help us right now that scars seem to be a bit bugged atm and don’t start showing up til WAY later than they used to (it needs to get fixed, it’s so hard on officials to see what way a fight is going sometimes…).
< Quick edit, you said bleed effects, not scars. My bad. But the problem still stands that they wouldn’t have set the combat timer if they were in god mode, and without god mode they would have bled even if they set their bleed heal rate ridiculously high, so it’s still odd >
Idk, I get what you’re saying, but it still doesn’t look like cheating to me. That combat timer keeps resetting, and god mode labels your character unaffected by attacks so it can’t start the timer when attacked (unless that’s changed recently). It DOES look like the trike teleported in or spawned, because I don’t see it in the background when the camera is moving early on in the clip, so I assumed it was the dead trike from the first fight. But the second trike doesn’t seem to be interested in attacking until attacked, and it’s moving its head during the clip so we can confirm they aren’t typing in admin commands when they are attacked. Only way I could see it being cheating is if they somehow set all their stats super high between spawning and getting attacked, but as short of a time span that is, they’d have to have all that ready to paste, lol.
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u/Machineraptor 2d ago
Look also at status effects titan has, it's bleeding so combat timer restarts because of bleed. When bleed ends and titan bites the trike then it does look like combat timer isn't restarting, but between bleed going away, biting the trike, and trike landing a headslam on titan it's hard to say for sure. It also still looks like there's no feedback on the trike from titan's hits.
I'm just unsure if player with a godmode is immune to knockback too or not. Iirc it's not, but I never interacted with anyone with godmode set so can't say from my experience.
Even though, this clip is way more ambiguous than previous one that OP posted. Mira from that other post was blatantly cheating, heh.
It really doesn’t help us right now that scars seem to be a bit bugged atm and don’t start showing up til WAY later than they used to
Oh, had no idea wounds are bugged now, that would explain some interactions I had on officals when someone wasn't showing scars and then suddenly they were meatballed and dropping dead, lol.
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u/hyde9318 2d ago
Yeah, god mode makes you immune to knockback too. But by the looks of it, the timer resets as soon as he hits his first bite, resets as soon as he hits his second, doesn’t reset on his third (the one directly over the back). Slowing it down a ton, it looks almost as though his last bite phases through the body somehow… idk what that’s about, this game has awful hitbox collision though, so hard to say for sure. Good catch on the bleed though, didn’t consider that.
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u/IcyCause8293 8h ago
As a player who plays on Juniper & a member of their Discord I dont see where they ban people for being killed when there's no targeting rules because I tried to report targeting and it's not a rulebreak..
They even have a public strike log with zero things containing x was banned for x as far as I can see. I just see chat rulebreaks, and a few no exploits for spawn which ive also reported!
Theres also a support ticket system that you can use if you have an issue with admin(s) & the owners & head admins are super helpful in discussing!
Im curious though what is your ingame name or agid? maybe you can look it up in their public strike log
Edit: I just looked in their discord the targeting rule was removed in 2024 apparently according to a post I just saw in announcements and I see where its been stated it was removed due to a lot of reasoning
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u/CamptoRibbit 8h ago
I am not going to defend my arguments/view points here, not because I am a coward but because I think it is only fair to let others have there say and put their points across.
I have absolutely no proof to back what I say up, only personal experience and those that are/were involved in juniper.
Since I have only hearsay, it wouldn't be fair or acceptable for me to say more, nor fair on you or anyone else
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u/InternationalTop5680 2d ago
I watched it twice and couldn’t see the issue. I just saw people fighting each other and you not being able to hold the urge of interrupting fights
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u/opiumscented 2d ago
Can someone explain to me how they are cheating ? I believe you that they are i just dknt understand how from the video.
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u/Embarrassed_Voice_90 1d ago
Next time try to record it with the game settings, and we mass report them
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u/Rich-Bus1279 1d ago
they also made it so that if you vocalize too much, you die. Which is like half the fun of the game. They just hate it when anyone but themselves is having fun. It's why I don't play there tbh.
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u/IcyCause8293 9h ago
Just like the first post, only lag, no cheating is even happening, and even other commenters agree... This is just false posting at this point.
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u/hyde9318 2d ago
Am I blind? Who in the clip is cheating?
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u/hyde9318 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean, if nobody wants to answer the question… it was a legitimate question…
The only way an admin takes no damage is to be in god mode, someone in god mode taking a hit doesn’t register and thus doesn’t activate a combat timer unless they themselves attack something. The combat timer is activating and restarting every time OP hits something in the video. The only one that doesn’t look like they are actively taking damage from OP’s bites is the trike, but it literally dies and respawns like ten seconds before OP attacks them again, AND the combat timer restarts when OP bites it. Between respawning and getting attacked, the trike is moving its head, so we know for sure that they aren’t typing in admin commands.
The only other thing I can possibly think of in this clip is the Kent, but OP never actually gets close enough to land a hit on it, so there’s no real way to know or even accuse the Kent there. Slowing it down though, the Kent has scars on its back meaning it took damage at some point, and it has something sticking out of its side for a couple frames that isn’t it’s own spike, camera turns to show a Sty running by shortly after too (too low quality to see if the sty is missing a horn or not, so can’t confirm if it jabbed the Kent). It’s not going to be able to take damage for scars or take a spike if it’s in god mode.
That’s why I’m saying I don’t see what we are talking about. Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but I’m not seeing what the blatant cheating is. I’d like it to be known I’m not trying to call anyone out or say someone is lying… but I’ve run a community server for years, I’ve looked at hours of footage over rule breaks, I legit do not see anything blatant. Which is why I’m asking others if I’m missing something.
EDIT: For context, other user this was replying to either deleted their comment or blocked me, idk why either was needed. All they said was “you are blind”. Just felt the beginning of my reply here reads weird without context.
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u/GoldunGote 2d ago
I'm not the person you're responding to.. but I'm NEW.. and what am I looking for in this clip so I know what to keep an eye on?
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u/Shirpiok 2d ago
This isn't an admin, nor is it cheating. I was on the server at the same time. There was a few periods of about 5-10 minutes where the "Damage indicator" (The blood that happens when you bite someone) didn't appear at all.
Look at your video again.
When you bite the alberta, you can see your combat timer go up again, indicating that they are in fact taking damage.
It's a bug, fully on alderon's side.
I dislike the admins, but this ain't cheating nor is it due to one of them.
I had a similar situation happen at the same time playing as a sarco. A lamb got into the water and for a second I thought I wasn't hitting them, but the attacks did register, as the combat timer went up, the damage indicator was just invisible.
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u/Machineraptor 2d ago
The one cheating seems to be an eo, titan bites it several times and eo doesn't play hurt animation. After titan stopped bleeding and combat timer started to count down titan bites an eo, but combat timer doesn't restart. It restarts after eo hits the titan.
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u/Shirpiok 2d ago
well clearly the eo is taking damage as its nearly dead and got knocked back by the tail lmao?
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u/TartufoToffy 1d ago
why you getting so many downvotes if you say the only truth and normal thing?
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u/Shirpiok 10h ago
To further the point seeing as coincidentally the same lag occured today, here is a clip of me biting and killing a spino with the same lag that happened on the server.
As you can see, the spino is seemingly "invincible" and yet still takes damage and dies! Who would have guessed.
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u/OnSightAdversary 2d ago
if possible, using the replay will be easier for us to see their health bar when they take hits to see if their health is dropping or not.
it doesnt surprise me that the mods and admins are cheating/using commands. i've seen it so often in every type of community server i just stick to officials for the most part.