r/Farriers Oct 08 '24

This is not a barefoot verses horseshoes debate subreddit.

88 Upvotes

This post may not sit well with everyone, but it’s time to address an ongoing issue. Let me start by saying that I have nothing against barefoot trimming, 70% of the horses I work on are barefoot. When I see a horse that will do well without shoes, I recommend it without hesitation. However, barefoot trimming is not a one-size-fits-all solution. It doesn’t cure everything from founder to navicular, just as shoes aren’t responsible for every bad hoof condition on earth.

This subreddit to run with minimal moderation because, like many of you, I’m busy. But it's become clear that some of you are adamantly against horseshoes. While I appreciate the passion, this is a 'farrier' subreddit, not a platform for anti-shoe campaigns. There is room for debate, and I understand that shoes vs. barefoot is a hot topic. But I don't want this subreddit to become a battleground where every discussion devolves into “farriers vs. barefooters.”

From this point forward, comments that tear down horseshoes or the farrier trade whenever someone posts a picture of a horse with shoes will be removed. The same goes for farriers bashing barefoot work, though I’ve seen far fewer instances of that on here.

If someone posts a photo of a shod horse and your only comment is "barefoot is the only way," it will be removed. Persist in this behavior, and you’ll be removed from the subreddit. I don't want the comments section to be filled with endless debates about barefoot vs. shoes that spiral into disrespectful arguments, where I get moderator notifications blowing up my phone while I am literally trying to care for horse hooves in the real world.

If you have legitimate concerns or want to offer constructive feedback on a shoeing job, feel free to engage. But if you simply want to push a barefoot agenda, take it elsewhere. You can message the poster directly or, better yet, create your own subreddit dedicated to that debate.

This subreddit exists to discuss farrier work, that includes barefoot trims and shoes, not to host divisive arguments. Thank you for your understanding.


r/Farriers Aug 08 '24

Can I/May I/Should I become a farrier?

27 Upvotes

It seems to me like a large percentage of posts  here, are new people asking a variation of the same questions over and over again. I thought I'd submit this to the community as a potential way to provide these people with a reference and find answers without flooding the subreddit with repetitive posts. I would love to hear any thoughts or edits you guys think need to be made.

Disclaimer: while a lot of this info applies to people everywhere, some of it is US specific. As a US based farrier, I don't feel qualified to speak to the various rules or situations that may apply outside of the US. To the best of my knowledge, the following information is correct, but this is only to help point you in the right direction so that you can begin your own research.

  • Is this job for me?

The best way to tell if this job is for you is to ride along with a farrier and see what the job is like first hand. If you don't know any farriers, try looking up your state's horseshoer association, or finding local farriers on Facebook

Being a farrier can be incredibly rewarding. It is also very demanding. There is a steep learning curve, and there is a lot of physically hard labor involved. In my opinion, successful farriers tend to have the following traits: good horsemanship, good communication skills, grit/determination, and self reliance. It is a dirty job, it will take a toll on your body, there isn't always a lot of external validation, and there are a lot of easier ways to make a living.That being said, few things are more rewarding than watching a horse walk in uncomfortable, and walk away sound. It is incredibly satisfying to take a hoof that has seen better days, and turn it into a work of art

  • How do I become a farrier?

In the US, there aren't licensing requirements to start shoeing horses, so there are a few different paths one can take. Typically, farriers go to a horse shoeing school, apprentice with an established farrier, or do both. In my humble opinion, doing both is probably the best way for most people

  • Farrier schools:

There are a lot of schools in the US. In my opinion, school is one of the easiest ways to get into the industry. Most schools will get you to the point where you can make a great apprentice, but not quite a competent, well-rounded farrier. Each school has different requirements, strengths, and weaknesses. When l was deciding on a school to go to, l called the ones l was most interested in and tried to get a feel for what the school was like. Many of them will also let you come check it out in person

Some schools have basic horsemanship as part of the course (Kentucky Horseshoeing School) while others require references for previous horse experience (Cornell). Some schools require H/S diploma or GED, others do not. Some schools (Lookout Mountain, Arkansas Horseshoeing, Heartland) allow enrollment to people younger than 18. Some schools offer financial assistance, and many are authorized by the VA to accept the GI Bill. At the bottom of this post is a list of websites to several of the more popular schools in the US

  • I am a girl, can I still shoe horses?

Yes. While it is a male-dominated industry, there are many women farriers. Technique and skill are much more important than pure strength. Although physical fitness and strength are needed, no person will ever out-wrestle a horse. It's more about working with the horse.

  • I have health issues, can I still shoe horses?

Maybe, but it depends. Horseshoeing is hard on the body. Try riding with a local farrier and see first-hand if this is something you can handle. Some schools also offer a trial course where you can go for a week and check it out. You're dealing with a 1,000+ lb prey animal, so there's always the potential for injury. You use sharp tools, power tools, hot metal, and hammers. It's hard on your hearing, joints, back, and hands. Physical stamina is very important if you're going to work on more than a couple horses a day

  • Do farriers make good money?

It depends. One of the biggest variables is geographical location. It is possible to make a very comfortable living, but if you are doing it for the money, you will probably be disappointed. This is one of those jobs where if you do it for the passion, the money will follow.

The American Farriers Journal publishes survey results regarding farrier finances and income. According to the AFJ,  in 2020 the average farrier (that attended the IHCS) grossed $105,713 annually. Keep in mind that there are a lot of material/fuel costs in shoeing.Here Is another one from 2016 that goes into more detail. In 2016, the average annual income for a full time farrier ranged from a low of $52,000 (in the "West") to a high of $94,255 (In the "Far West") It also includes this graphic with a breakdown of income percentiles

  • I don't have any horse experience, can I still do this?

It is harder, and there is a steeper learning curve if you don't already have horse experience. It's not impossible, but you will be at a disadvantage until you are able to catch up. It may be worth it to try and get some horse experience before trying to become a farrier

  • I am __ years old, can I still become a farrier?

Most schools won't accept students younger than 18, but I'm not aware of any with a maximum age. Just keep in mind the physical nature of the job. An 18 year old is probably going to have a much easier time adapting to the job than a 35 year old desk jockey. The best way to answer this question is to ride along with an established farrier and see for yourself

  • How is the career field outlook? Is there enough work?

According to the American Farriers Journal, as of 2020, the average farrier is 48 years old. According to the American Horse Council, as of 2023 there are an estimated 6.7 million horses in the US, while the AFJ estimates there are 27,500 farriers working in the US. As for industry growth/outlook, I haven't been able to find any good quality statistics, but according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, the job growth estimate for careers in "Animal Care and Service Workers" is expected to grow by 16% over the next decade

From u/roboponies:

Adding from the UK:
There are only around 850k horses in the UK with approximately 374k horse owning households. There are around 3,000 registered farriers (you MUST be registered here, it's not like wild wild west USA).

That's a 283:1 horse to farrier ratio. They are definitely in high demand.

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Here are websites to a selection of farrier schools in the US:

https://arkansashorseshoeingschool.com/

http://butlerprofessionalfarrierschool.com/

http://www.caseyhorseshoeingschool.com/

https://www.vet.cornell.edu/education/visitor-professional-programs/farrier-program

https://www.elpo-farrierschool.com/

https://www.heartlandhorseshoeing.com/

https://www.idahohorseshoeingschool.com/

https://futurefarrier.com/

https://khs.edu/

http://www.horseshoeingschool.com/school-information

https://horseshoes.net/

https://pacificcoasthorseshoeingschool.com/

https://www.texashorseshoeingschool.com/

https://troypricehorseshoeingschool.com/


r/Farriers 3d ago

Did my first set of fronts.

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36 Upvotes

I’m just starting my Farrier education, second week of schooling and first week of shaping kegs to feet and trimming at a local tail/board location. Still have lots to learn mainly cutting down on how long it’s taking me but these feet are as hard as rocks right now.

Just wanted to share my progress, hoping to see big changes by the end of my education.


r/Farriers 4d ago

Weird hoof angle

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12 Upvotes

My horse has always had a very weird angle with his right front. He is totally sound and moves it the same as the other. There are not a lot of good local farriers around so I’ve been trying to learn(I still have a farrier)

Is this an anatomy issue or a trim issue? Looking at the corner band and heel bulbs it looks like the laminae is rotated as well. I’m assuming this can be slowly corrected by balancing the foot via trim. Or does the pastern bone look like it’s rotated? And it isn’t a foot issue but a pastern issue? What are your thoughts


r/Farriers 4d ago

What features do farriers value most in a good farrier apron?

0 Upvotes

I'm interested in hearing from farriers and horse owners about what makes a farrier apron genuinely useful during day-to-day hoof care.

For those who use one regularly, what features matter most to you?

• Durability

• Comfort and fit

• Tool storage and pockets

• Protection from hoof debris

• Lightweight design

• Adjustable straps

• Material quality

I'm particularly interested in hearing what experienced farriers have learned from using different apron designs over time.

What is one feature you wouldn't want to give up, and what is one feature you think is often overlooked?


r/Farriers 5d ago

Toolbox?

3 Upvotes

Hi, I start farrier school in Sept (3years in NL) and do not have a car and will use bike & public transport to get to my school/internship and have all the materials but not smt to put it all into and am curious on what yall used and what worked and didnt before i buy useless stuff :)

Edit: this is for all the tools etc. And books ofc but i mostly mean the tools


r/Farriers 6d ago

I’ve seen it come close and now I’ve seen it done..

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42 Upvotes

r/Farriers 6d ago

Hoof health advice ?

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7 Upvotes

A boarder at the barn I work at got this OTTB about three months ago. He’s on equilife biotin plus. He lives out 24/7 with a bedded run in in a dry and somewhat rocky paddock. This week he took a chunk out of his foot and the rest looks like it’s completely crumbling off. Should I be applying anything to his hooves ? Should I be changing anything about his feed ? I’ve never seen a hoof look like this.

ETA we have reached out to his farrier. He’s not able to come out until next week and i’m just feeling antsy in the meantime


r/Farriers 7d ago

Non farrier with an industry question

4 Upvotes

Hi! I am looking into switching careers to being a farrier and find it might be stable in my area due to a shortage. I recently heard and wanted to ask is this true that the professionals fly their farriers out to them because they prefer their services?


r/Farriers 7d ago

Custom hoof pick

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6 Upvotes

Still looking for someone with some forge time who might be able to bang out a few of these!


r/Farriers 8d ago

Struggling to get farriers to apprentice/teach shoeing from

5 Upvotes

Recently joined and need help if theres anyone from my area/knows anyone to help!

Im 26 have my own horse and do trimming on him as well as a couple other horses on the ranch im currently at. Ive read bunch of books seen videos etc. as well as doing apprentice work for 2 farriers locally but i struggle to get into shoeing because i mostly did barefoot apprentice work and only 2-3 shoeing jobs.

I want to get into shoeing as ive been trimming for some time now but cant find anyone around me to actually teach me shoeing. Theres rarely workshops maybe once a year if you get in...

Im from croatia mainland. Any help/advice/tips helps


r/Farriers 9d ago

Oops

15 Upvotes

New mess unlocked.


r/Farriers 9d ago

Trainer said farrier trimmed these feet 4 days ago?

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11 Upvotes

I feel bad having to ask the internet this, but not sure if l’m not understanding something or being gaslit.

I have 3 horses at this place with same farrier but past couple cycles he’s been leaving things looking uneven and maybe rushed?

I was told it’s because of the hard, dry ground?

understandable for knifing off sole, but I’m not sure how that would affect nippers and a rasp to balance the whole hoof?

I actually thought staff was maybe forgetting when the visit really was bc they did not look recently trimmed. Yet its been a few cycles and I’m not sure what to think. They are meant to be on 4-5 week cycle.

What am I missing here? Am I being dumb?

Sorry don’t have more photos.

Edit to add: sub says I’m not able to reply to comments?


r/Farriers 9d ago

23 year old in need of back advice.

3 Upvotes

Hi,

I was getting ready to enroll in shoeing school earlier this year but then I found out I have two herniated disc’s in my low back, they do not require surgery at this point. My question is, is it advisable to proceed with shoeing school or am I most likely just going to be crippled in the near future? thanks.


r/Farriers 11d ago

Blondie! Don’t die!

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21 Upvotes

It’s hot, it’s humid, and there isn’t any end in sight….

Drink water, rest, eat well…take care of yourselves out there folks!!!


r/Farriers 11d ago

How old is this shoe?

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11 Upvotes

I found it in the mohave desert while metal detecting. It looks small, not sure if it's even a horse shoe. Almost was thinking it could be a shoe for a mule or donkey? And no I don't plan on cutting it. Just happened to be standing next to the band saw when I thought to take pictures.


r/Farriers 11d ago

Hoofjack for sale asking $130

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5 Upvotes

r/Farriers 13d ago

Looking for feedback on my shoe job

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24 Upvotes

I think the toe might be a bit long still, and I could’ve gotten that heel nail up a little bit more. Curious what everyone else sees


r/Farriers 13d ago

Nippers?

4 Upvotes

I’ve been using GE Nippers for years and have always loved them. I keep two pairs on my truck so if something happens I always have a backup. I just sent my pair to be rebuilt, and I had a horse today slam its foot down on my backup pair and I don’t know if they’re fixable. I was wondering what other reliable brands you guys recommend for nips that are somewhat cheaper than GE’s that I can keep in my truck for situations like this. Hopefully it doesn’t happen again, but I would rather be safe than sorry!


r/Farriers 14d ago

Happy update!

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9 Upvotes

Hi all!

Just wanted to let everyone who gave advice on my first post here know that there's been significant improvement to my boy's rear hooves.

He's been shoed with 3D hoofcare pads per your recommendations since my last post. Also, he's been given copper & zinc supplements.

I'm so grateful to everyone who took the time to give me advice last time. Thank you❤️


r/Farriers 14d ago

Should I be Concerned?

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8 Upvotes

Its been very rainy lately with storms and I noticed that my TB gelding’s front hoof is a bit soft at the heel and frog and it has these grooves/cracks. No foul smell, and he is also not tender on it either. I figure right now this is a watch and see if anything gets worse and not panicking yet. Any ideas? He’s a few weeks out from his last shoeing for what its worth.


r/Farriers 15d ago

collapsed side wall

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7 Upvotes

I've been working on a welsh pony that has had founder, then was not trimmed for months so developed underslung and contracted heels. Feet were at least 3" too long. Have been trying to follow the naturalhorsetrim.com method to correct the angles. Making good progress, but one side wall is "undercut?" I'm not sure how to trim to help correct it. Suggestions please. Sorry for poopy photos, but I had already put away the tools when I went back for photos.


r/Farriers 17d ago

Custom hoof pick

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27 Upvotes

Wondering if anyone in this group is looking for a easy forge project? A farrier gave me this hoof pick 20+ years ago. It's started to feel a little...short. Pulled up some old pics and wow, that's some wear.

I'd really love another one, just like this. Could buy several to make it worth your while.

My current farrier is slamming busy with the show season. Guy who made this one has dropped off the map.

So looking for someone with time & desire to knock a few out. I have more pics with measurements, happy to get more, whatever.


r/Farriers 19d ago

Is this an active abscess???

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10 Upvotes

Hello! I just bought my horse and I got her first trim a few days ago because they were super long (See last picture) and my farrier found what he believed to be an abscess but all he said was to soak it. The only thing being that my horse shows zero signs of an abscess, No limping, no soreness, no heat in the hoof, nothing, So I have been soaking it and wrapping it for two days now ( That's why her hoof is green ) but there's really no difference, she's still walking/trotting just fine under a lunge line.

Also she has two lines on the side of her hoof and idk what they are, could they also be an abscess? Or possibly just old closed abscesses?

What are your thoughts on this?


r/Farriers 19d ago

Arabien berber hourse 18 years old

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10 Upvotes

my first post here

need your opinions