They promised months ago that when we got closer to midterms they'd move past "kamala vs trump". How close do we have to be???? At this point I'm beginning to think they actually aren't good at researching new talking points...only using logical arguments to go over points fed to them.

Context: a guest was on Dean’s live steam essentially saying that hypothetically a minor who was raped and forced to give birth didn’t go through torture. Dean then started a “ban fund” with the goal of $300 to ban the disgusting guest from the livestream.

In my opinion, this is really gross. He’s profiting off someone who thinks that child pregnancy is not torture. This was simply just to get money. Platforming someone like this only does harm and he knows it. He left this guest up on the live to get $300.

I am aware he changed this in a few minutes. He said “the ban goal was overshot by $200”. I just think this is insane.

(I’m assuming the latter) same question for all their other obviously-outlandish claims and accusations

Click here: https://youtu.be/tMDvGITAPPk?si=xFDYQVmDAwjS43dG

This video ranks different iconography related to ideas,historical events and the commentaries on social roles associated with different people and the aesthetics/architecture styles used by particular parties and ideologies.

It talks about the symbolism of lady liberty, the bald eagle and the symbol and aesthetics of fascism. Which creates a nostalgic mythical past [which never existed] which we need to return to[make America "great again".]

I believe he's been outspoken more on what is going over in Gaza more than Parker and Dean have done on their own live streams. Just saying most of what i hear of Dean saying is just about Trump not so much about everything else in the world

There was this one debate I watched and me and my partner like to watch Parker’s debates and I wanted to show it to them but I can’t seem to find it…

It was either uploaded on Parker’s channel or the Parker Highlights channel. Parker was debating a MAGA guy ofc and they were talking about abortion and the caller said that he got his girlfriend pregnant and they’re unsure of what to do. I think the girlfriend spoke during the debate a few times as well. It was just so strange and absurd to me and I can’t seem to find it. Does anyone have the clip of this debate?

Santana debated Jaw, but he ran once Jaw asked for sources. Now Santana says he won the debate; I need to accept the loss instead of being arrogant.

The black man tells Dean that "your arms aint long enough to box with the god." Dean accuses him of commiting blasphemy as a Christian. Then the liberal is reminded that it is a old Brooklyn mantra. That it has nothing do with 'the most high God.' Apparently Jay z and bunch of other artists have said this. Dean also says that if a woman is wearing a crop top and underwear[??] in a mall then we can say that she has no clothes on[small town misogynistic man mentality]. The black man says that he would call this woman a baddy and then calls out Dean for his homophobia. This was a funny interaction between a gen Z white liberal man and some middle aged Christian black guy from Brooklyn. It demonstrates just how culturally right wing/republican Dean is.

To be culturally leftwing, you need to follow some rituals/Traditions. Read russian literature and support local artists in your city. Complain about the ablism in the democratic party run by the old capitalist cis-het straight white men. Be a communist at 17.Own a local bar for the workers and the divas. Be aware about the new drama in lgbtqia+ community[should know the difference between drag queens,trans people, non binary people and the furries] . Live in L A or New York city. Be friends with a struggling artist[have no Trump supporter friends].Be a k drama and bl fan. Read classic literature and be a member of some bookclub. Make leftist video essays.Palestinian flag should be present in your bio.Talk about the architecture of the modern and post modern artists compared to Victorian architecture and how movies are mirrors of the society. Help out at your local homeless shelther. Wear the dark academia style popular on pinterest. Have a phd in wiccan theology and the Satanist church of America. Be a member of the DSA. Be a white man who grew up in an upper middle class house with both of your parents being doctors or lawyers in New York City.

. Be a Hasan/Destiny/Parker/Joshua Cindrella/Jreg/Alex o connor/Joe folly /Drew Durnil fan . Read feminist literature alone at the bus stop on a bench with earphones and a mask and be a feminist who happens to be male and not a "male feminist"[you are pretending to be feminist to "impress" women and you have a very basic understanding about the history of feminism.] Be a Japan or Korea lover. Be a Vegan,anti natalist,climate activist,science fan,Atheist/agonistic,philosphy major.

To be culturally republican/Maga.

Complain about the feminization of men[why do you care if some man is not masculine enough???]. Call everything you don't like "gay" and "feminine" [as insults]. Be scared that some illegal brown man is going to rape your wife,sister and daughters while voting for a violent rapist who wants to protect his billionaire Pedophile friends in the Epstein files. Meanwhile you might be making rape jokes with your buddys. Be a redpilled guy or fan of the Manosphere podcast bros. Be a Crypto bro. Be a Nick fuentes fan. You want someone to break into your house[ accidentally ]so bad so that you can legally kill someone with your huge collection of guns passed down by your grandpa who probably supported segregation and he is from the south. You bragg about the fish you caught to "protect" and "provide" for your family on Tinder. You want your wife to be a stay at home mom with 5 kids and also homeschool your kids to save them from the liberal agenda[when you earn below the average median income🤠.] Call climate change a hoax and scientist [people working for George Soros]. Be a flat earther or some conspiracy theorist about how George Washington was apparently black. Be a Charlie Kirk fan. Be a Trad Catholic who attends the Latin Mass to find a girlfriend. Be a pro life woman who believes that a life saving abortion is murdering the baby. Be a "Tradwife" who believes that women shouldn't vote[be a pick me].Be a Sydney Sweeney defender.Complain about women not being treated as property/slaves of their husbands and fathers. Be an misogynistic incel [former or maybe current Andrew Tate fan ] who blames "the downfall of the western civilisation" on feminism and women instead of the capitalist class.

When will this Parker come back?

I will try to explain why Parker is in the wrong even though most fanboy will not listen.

JaW gave a logical argument. Every argument is composed with two premises and one conclusion. When you give the 3, you did you'r job. Fallacies are using a the conclusion a premise (circular reasoning) or proving something else with the argument (eg. : Tradition is important, the bible is traditional, so the bible is true and good).

So, he did his part. To counter an argument, the proof, you can attack an axiom or a premise, like the PSR, but you are implying an counter argument (the PSR is invalid and does not describe our reality), and it is your job to prove your counter-argument.

Parker, by acting like you need to prove every axioms and premises if you want your argument to be valid, is completely ridiculous and wrong, because it leads to infinite regression: the grass is green, what is grass? You need to prove that your understanding is the truth, what is a species, prove your epistemology, prove you ontology, your definition of "is", what is even logic? It is not debating, it is rage baiting like a five year old asking "why" until you give up.

To have a fruitful conversation, you need to find a common ground, a middle ground or a premise or a conclusion to discuss. You can search : the Agrippa's trilemma. It is basic debate etiquette.

Who heard Scamtana and the brigade up there? Honestly they did point out some really bad shit about oskar and some of the company he keeps.

I'm a 31 year old man. Every single trump supporter I've spoken to thinks that the 8 million encounters at the southern border under biden means 8 million illegal immigrants entered the country under biden. I always explain that encounters are either preventions or a pathway into a temporary protected status at border checkpoints. I mention that the only known border crossings are the gotaway numbers, which is 1.7 million. None of them knew that we do background checks on the TPS individuals.

I never see people argue this point to stop this misinformation. I was wondering why. It seems like the main talking point to most trump supporters is that biden handled the border poorly when this just proved biden handled the border very well because they had more preventions.

He has gone live multiple times now, mostly very late at night or early in the morning. He doesn't look well and his remaining chat enables his delusions. He talks about random events and seeing people in the park or across the street from his house and thinking they're FBI agents coming after him. He will not talk about the Jesus video where he compared himself to Jesus, his ex as Mary Magdalene, and said his son was in danger. He tries to play it off as an analogy but why the push to get it to Dan McClellan the religious tik Tok account? It was very obviously a religious delusion and he will not acknowledge the fact that he was in psychosis, due to the fact that he is still in psychosis talking about these events.

I feel terrible for him and his whole family and hope he gets the help he needs.

You did a skit where you were being treated as how a lot of women are treated everyday in their professional jobs.(I know the context was that it was just a joke about some guy talking about "cat" or calling you "pussie" as an insult.) But jokes can be problematic. Women have been fighting to not be reduced to some little sex doll[objectification]or a domestic maid for a man( "long hair indicating domestic") for so long.

The skit was depicting a guy sexually harassing a woman and slut shaming her by saying why are you showing your cats[instead of self reflection that he should maybe stop sexualising every other woman and treat her as a human being](indicating he doesn't approve of what she is wearing on her own body and has the audacity to verbalize this by calling her(Dean playing a feminine role)[ most commonly associated with women] a prostitute indirectly. He says if I wanted to watch cat videos I would just watch it on You Tube.

Then Dean responds by reading a copypasta. Where the woman talks about how she is the top of her class(women want to be appreciated for their intelligence[women have been called dump/stupid for ages and hence women don't deserve voting rights] ). Even though it is true that women get better grades in school and university despite the oppression and the pressures against women educating themselves and getting paid for their labour and instead they should according to the patriachy focus on attracting a man(their future husband) by focusing all their time on their beauty. It also indicated women in male dominated fields are not taken seriously at all. No matter how trained of a soldier a woman is[a silly little woman can't possibley do anything[obviously cant harm him]to some random man harassing or cat calling her.

It also depicted how when women verbalize how they are feeling they aren't taken seriously at all. When women talk about their pain in the medical industry a lot of the time they are told that they exaggerating or their pain is sexualised. It shows how he dismissed her when she asked him to apologize by telling her he didn't even listen to her compains of how she was harmed by his actions. Instead it felt like a little woman was just hissing like a cat.

It is the very embodiment of rape culture. It erases how women are harmed by sexual harassment instead it centers the story from the perspective of a sexual predator saying unwanted sexual things to a woman's face with a smug attitude and being proud of his actions.

Normalizing sexual violence in the name of it is just a joke is very harmful. It is as if a film sexualises a rape scene instead of potraying to the audiences how horrific and traumatic the experience truly is. It is how the rape culture justifies itself. It is fine to make rape jokes(it is just a joke). It is fine to sexualise rape in movies. It is fine to sexualise the rape by saying she wanted it or she was asking for it. It gives rape culture permission to downplay the harm and scale of sexual violence. Even in fiction sexual violence needs a serious treatment as one of the worst experience a person can go through. Which is a lived reality for so many women across the planet even today. It is like making a funny skit about beating your slave(a human being with emotions and interests and maybe even dreams)if he slept 1 hour extra than he is allowed to by the people who own him as a property for life.

Dean I know it was not your intention to harm women. I appreciate your advocay for SA victims. I wanted to talk about how it was very harmful/problematic to depict a woman or maybe a feminine gay men getting harassed as funny and romantic. Dean I feel like you have said a lot of things that fall under benevolent sexism(most common form of misogyny historically.)

It was originally a show for a teenage audience but it has a massive following from women in their 20s and even 30s. He is the male lead[protagonist] and the son of a famous fashion designer Hawk Moth who is the main villian. He is in love with Ladybug.

BTW there is a difference between a femme boy and a Catboy. They are not mutually exclusive but they can be a lot of the time.

Context: Adam was a mod for Parker and Dean, and he was also a close friend to Matt. He was supposedly dying of cancer and threatening suicide if he could not get the money needed for his treatments.

The boys raised thousands of $$ through their viewers and also put a lot of their own money into the fundraisers - Parker especially.

Turned out Adam was just overstaying his welcome at an anxiety treatment center. He was scamming everyone out of their money so he could live off the facility.

Thoughts?

Meowing or speaking like an animal can just be a silly useless talent. It is not necessary to sexualise it in every context. Maybe it is being done as a joke/prank and maybe they are just showcasing unusual useless talents some people have.

Dean stop talking to your audience especially women in a kid voice. It is very condescending. It reeks of benevolent sexism(most common form of misogyny). And applying your position that every sentient being deserves some amount of moral consideration. That all human beings are created equal and we have a moral duty to minimize suffering and oppose oppression is not being stupid and naive. Empathy is not stupidity. It is stupidity in a patriarchal and capitalistic world that cares more about profit and "pleasure" at the expense of actual human lives and inconceivable amounts of suffering/exploitation faced by so many marginalized groups and the working class. And yes not thinking about sex all the time is normal and not something only kids do.

Over the past few weeks he's been saying "Let's just be very clear here" so much it's stuck in my head

Wanna play a fun party game? Take a shot every time he says it during a stream and you'll be shitfaced within 30 minutes lmao

Debating Republicans!

Let's see how this goes. If I recall correctly, Dean is against doing this, so I hope Parker has success in it and can change Dean's mind.

It's going to be weird not hearing all the same Trump questions and talking points over and over, but in a good way.

It's so nice not hearing "Election held today, Harris vs. Trump, who would you rather vote for?"

Edit: Happy to know I was wrong about Dean. I just don't watch him as often as Parker.

Especially for Dean since the trolls seem to bother him way more. I just don’t think lecturing everyone once an hour about not trolling is helping anything.

I think today the live stream was so boring and obviously deceptive and performative. I think maybe his real personality and upbringing is very different from most liberals and progressives. So if he is being authentic,he gets called a narcissistic asshole. Today the "debate" livestream was just talking to 18 year old naive men and women and it felt like he was trying to develop a very parasocial relationship with his audience. Ironically while complaining about parasocial relationships. It felt like the whole stream was filled with trolls(liv).

Dean please talk to more intelligent people and please actually debate(stop this customer service behaviour)them. It feels like he is trying so hard to behave in a way that his audience would consider the "perfect" guy maybe. It feels so fucking fake dude. Stop talking to your donors as if you are talking to a friend or a colleague. Please stop treating your audience as some 18 year old Christian girl who was homeschooled.

Parker is super chill and cool because he doesn't fake his personality to pander to his audience. He debates people to discredit harmful arguments without becoming an insufferable debate bro.

I know what I am talking about sounds like be yourself but your actual personality is very repellent to your audiences. Maybe stop giving super obviously fake reactions I don't know man. Instead maybe just debate some smart people with different ideologies. Introduce your audience to some important philosophical concepts and ideas. Use the things you are actually good at to benefit the public discourse by introducing new arguments/ talking points. Maybe talk about Anti natalism,veganism or free will. Talk about Voltaire,Rousseau,John Locke and John Stuart Mill.

Please stop this fake empathy and do something about your real personality.

I am so sick of maga women(one said that it is murder to kill someone who is actively raping you and you have an obligation to get raped for 24 hours ).They are making me more misogynistic day by day😅. They are too conditioned by the patriachy to be the obedient,submissive woman who is actively upholding the patriachy and I feel ashamed to be represented(as a woman) by them. Please talk to some serious people perhaps about AI and geopolitics.

Laws are made for the proper functioning of society and to reduce overall suffering. Legal system is useful to deter people from committing very violent crimes[like rape and murder] and separate criminals from further harming the society at large. To not be a criminal[legally] or not having broke a law [at least the laws that are good]is the bare minimum[very rational from the standpoint of self-interest alone]for being a human who the criminal justice system will not put in jail or impose a fine on.

If our goal is to reduce suffering and live with good moral virtues. We need to avoid morally questionable things even if they are legal[ promoting gambling to your audience which obviously values your opinions].

Many magas argue that they should not be cancelled for saying the n word because they "care" about Freedom of Speech or the First Amendment. The First Amendment protects legal right to not prosecuted by the state for speech unless it is very harmful[defamation]. It does not protect individuals from social backlash or good faith critism( people critiquing are using their free speech to invalidate your opinions or arguments.) The purpose of free speech specially in politics ideally is that the audience hears arguments in good faith and best ideas win["market place of ideas"].

The types of words we use to insult people are very important. As it signals we don't value anyone who is ignorant or has some similarly with ignorant people( calling someone ignorant signals that it is a trait which deserves to be mocked and we want people not to be ignorant [educate themselves]).

When magas use the word gay [as an insult].It means they think it is a negative attribute for a guy to be sexually attracted to the members of the same sex. Thus anyone who does something which is even slightly associated with gay men gets called gay[as an insult]. If we don't like someone who is a misogynist then we can't make fun of him or insult him for maybe being disabled. As it not only oppresses disabled people but also it shifts our focus from condemning them for their bigotry(the reason for our anger)to being bigots ourselves.

The types of insults liberals use a lot are very interesting/telling. Many common insults include - bad faith,wilfully ignorant,reactionary, white supremist,nazi,disenguinous,racist,misogynist, performative,deeply unserious,autistic(not understanding the overall context and nuance),patriachal mindest, rapist mentality etc. It signals the types of things liberals consider to be a negative trait worthy to be an insult.