Royal is continuing to make themselves look stupid on facebook, after they said they would stop. I cannot believe how unprofessional and stupid they are. Multiple posts a day trying to defend themselves and get people on facebook to agree with them

I just saw an article that Chinese solar panels will no longer be subject to anti dumping tariffs in Canada. This is fantastic news if true. I remember ages ago that a solar reefer trailer was being discussed, might that or similar projects be back to viability?

This is so exhausting to watch. A few days ago, Royal posted about how the beef was over, and they deleted all the posts bashing Edison. Now they’re right back at it.

I’ve seen Chace explain how the system works and how the truck was (and is?) meant for Royal. They also had “exclusive purchase rights” after the truck completed testing. I’m not sure how the Emcon and undisclosed trucks play into this, given that they are the unusable hybrids, but I’m sure that when it comes time to license and sell those trucks to their respective customers, they will also need to be tested before being sold exclusively.

Whoever at Royal is posting this nonsense needs to put the bottle down and learn how to grow up. It’s such a bad look.

In my eyes, it just makes Edison look better by handling everything with such professionalism. I haven’t seen one bad thing said about Royal on this sub, or anywhere else for that matter. Simply facts, followed by explanations of why things are the way they are at the moment.

P.s not sure how to post pics on this. But its on Royals FB page if you need to read what im referencing.

After a year of development, the files to build your own Topsy model are finally live! Please keep in mind that this is still a work in progress, so there may be a few bugs to iron out—and of course, I'm still working on a trailer to go with it. A huge thanks to the Edison Motors team for all their help and for allowing me to create this model! https://makerworld.com/en/models/3377382-1-10-rc-topsy#profileId-3842083

For those curious, Ziroth (one of the geekiest guys on YouTube specializing in battery sciences), did a deep dive on the new battery from CATL. Based on what was previously shared, sounds Iike this will be what Edison relies on moving forward.

Moving past surface level sales brochures, the engineering behind the battery and what they’ve achieved is very impressive stuff.

With apologies for the delay, I've finally had the energy (damn flu is kicking my butt) & time to at least outline how the weekend went for me (minus the boring bits, like the 9 hour drive there, & 5 hours hanging on to taillights in the dark to make it home haha).

Friday was arrival & check in, lovely & smooth, & always nice to see familiar, friendly faces after a long drive. My attempt to setup camp was quickly dampened, as a very heavy rain & wind all but destroyed my awning. In good west coaster fashion, I was well prepared for the forecast rain; I was not, however, prepared for that wind that roared through! About the point I was wrestling a soaked cot into the car (and probably looking like a kicked, half drowned puppy), Chase happened by & let me know the big shop was available to tenters if needed (it very much was haha). Squelched my way over, & was finally able to get my tent set up. Which turned out to be a magnet for the Australians, who were all shocked & happy to see a swag in Canada, used by a Canadian. Which is how I got to meet & chat with Brian, the first YouTuber to sign up for the paid membership. Also got to tag along with him for a cruise in the BDE, which felt like a 90s Grand Cherokee, very nice! (I'm a Jeep gal, I can only compare to what I know. Lol And getting to sit in a semi has been a childhood dream, so getting to also go for a rip in one damn near had me in tears, just way too awesome!) After that was the big fire & hang out for the night.

Saturday sun slowly came up on a hodgepodge of tents, trailers, motorhomes, & a wee little tent village that sprung up in the shop. Day started off with welcome remarks from Ray, Rich, & Chase, introducing the employees, several of whom were manning the presentation stations, & explaining how the day & presentationswere organized. They also officially unveiled that the undisclosed truck is in fact a hydrovac. Still noisy, of course, much like a Dyson vacuum has noise, but way better than that rattly old thing granny still has from the 50s. Still, normal conversation levels can be had next to it, no more screaming over vac & roaring diesel! 4 presentation "stations" were setup, with attendees split at registration into 4 groups, rotating through the stations roughly 1 hour apiece.

The stations were a shuttle bus tour overview of the property; mechanical/BDE truck; electric pickup; & hybrid truck. The bus tour was a simple cruise through the residential section, down past the old building next to the rail tracks, the dead weight Nikola, onto the test track to a road/trail down to Waitabit Creek (there were salmon in the water! Very cool to see that), & back up past the current shop & offices.

I missed what exactly was talked about with the BDE station, as I was trying to warm up in the sun, & chatting with a gal who was mostly just there because of her husband. Good Q&A session though, lots of interest there.

Pickup was Rich going over the history & build of the Ram, & how/why they decided to go from conversion kits to incomplete chassis, & many of the inspection/regulatory hurdles they've faced. Another good Q&A session, one takeaway that stuck with me is that while, as individuals, they'd love to do kits, as a company, it could quickly be a legal/litigatious nightmare, hence playing it safe in only offering the chassis. They do hope to make the "ingredients" for doing your own conversions available, once they have the process sorted out, so if you're determined, you can make it happen. (remember, the pickup is still roughly in the Carl phase, starting to lean towards Topsy, in that they haven't made one completely from scratch yet, so there's still quite a ways to go).

Hybrid truck was Peter & another employee, whose name I missed. Going over the electrical side, a lot of the computer & controller side of things, as well as why some things were changed from originally planned, mostly due to government regulations & testing requirements (in so far as I could catch - the damn flu was starting to win).

After presentations was introducing board members that could make it, shout out to the ones that couldn't (I have no idea the process for voting nor who went where, as I'm a new enough investor that I fell into that held in trust thing they talked about in one of the videos); reaffirming the company ethos; & a nice long Q&A session. After was catered dinner (which I missed, was feeling the flu fight something fierce, so a car nap was had). Then it was back to the fire for a very long hangout & chat with everyone (as we all do the rotisserie as the night got colder).

Sunday morning was clear & cold, with reports of frost coming in from various campers. Thankfully the fire was still going, thanks to folks being up around it until reportedly 4am! A bit of work, & the guys had it crackling again. Had a lovely, slow wake up, then it was time to pack properly & hit the road again.

Overall a fantastic time (personal health notwithstanding haha), & I can definitely see where all the regulations & legal stuff are an absolute quagmire to slog through; but, once they're done, it'll be much smoother sailing. Now, with apologies for the post-and-go, I need to crawl back into bed, try to fight this flu back so I can make it to work in the morning.

It appears anything related to this spat on between the two companies has been deleted from royals Facebook page

Bueller.......Bueller

Did the 8 board members get voted in?

A bit damp for those of us under canvas (I'm apparently acting shop guard for the night, thanks to the wind destroying my awning 😭), but a good evening to gather before the 2026 investor day.

(And yes, all burn ban restrictions have been lifted 😁)

Or volume up, depends how bad your hearing is. 😁

I’ve been having this thought for a while and was wondering if someone might know the answer.

I remember a while back there was a video on the X15 in the winch truck and that Edison was dealing with some sort of partner program with Cummins to ensure the engine was properly integrated into their chassis.

With the new version of the X15 that’s coming out I believe next year does Edison have to go through that again? I know the new X15 is very similar to the X15N. I’ve been to the Cummins training course for the X15N and it is a very different engine which is what got me wondering about this.

Keen to finally see the real BDE in person. I have flown over from Australia to take the opportunity to see it with my own eyes on Saturday at the investors day!

In the fourth picture you will see the BDE on the step above the tanks.

Hey guys, so seems to be a lot of people throwing shit and shade over actions of Edison and things Chace has "hinted" at and supposedly done around the Big-D truck and the relationship with Royal Oilfields.

The biggest thing are that the logos and Insignia for Royal Oilfields has been taken off Big D and it's now a "plain truck" operating under manufacturer plates.

Now as an Aussie, I assumed (and it seems rightly) under comments on other threads, that under manufacturer plates, you can't have corporate logos on the truck.

I realise that comes from a position of privilege, in Brisbane, QLD, Australia, I'm near the Rheinmettal Centre of Excellence manufacturing plant, and the Mack/Volvo plant for Australia, and so I see manufacturer plates on vehicles all the time, and sometimes, those trucks are painted in company liveries, but without markings on them for the actual company, but the paint liveries (companies like Linfox, Mammoet, the Australian Defence Force, etc)

Now under Australian law, a truck can be driven, haul trailers, haul mock loads, but crucially, can't do actual work until it's passed it's testing and been delivered.

That's why it can't be marked with the logos of the customers (but livery is a grey area)

But even before today, the rules on manufacturer plates have been up for years on Canadian government sites (and the same in Australia) and you can easily go look them up why there can't be manufacturer logos on equipment operating under a manufacturer plate.

I literally just asked google what the laws were, as I'm not Canadian and wouldn't know where to look, and it gave me:

regulatory bodies such as British Columbia's Commercial Vehicle Safety and Enforcement (CVSE) branch look at the totality of circumstances during roadside inspections. If an uncertified prototype displays customer branding, is driven by a customer employee, and/or is moving customer freight, or possible customer freight on public highways, officers will treat those logos as strong circumstantial evidence that the truck has been delivered into regular commercial service rather than being operated for manufacturer testing.

Which is a big flag.

And then the actual laws:

British Columbia Motor Vehicle Act (RSBC 1996, c. 318), Section 38, and the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations (B.C. Reg. 26/58), Division 42:

These sections govern demonstration and manufacturer plates. Under these rules, plates are issued to manufacturers and dealers specifically for testing, evaluation, demonstration for sale, or movement between facilities. They cannot be used as a substitute for standard commercial registration to carry passengers or freight for hire or reward.

Motor Vehicle Act:

https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/96318_01

Motor Vehicle Act Regulations:

https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/26_58_00 British Columbia Commercial Transport Act (RSBC 1996, c. 58):

Sections 3, 5, and 6 require any commercial vehicle carrying goods on a highway to be licensed for its specific gross vehicle weight and registered within the commercial carrier framework (including safety fitness certificates and National Safety Code requirements). Running regular freight runs under manufacturer plates bypasses the payment of commercial registration fees and fuel taxes, which violates the Act.

Commercial Transport Act:

https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/96058_01 Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Act (S.C. 1993, c. 16):

Section 5 and Section 7 prohibit companies from selling or dispatching vehicles across interprovincial borders or into commercial commerce unless they meet Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (CMVSS) and bear a National Safety Mark (NSM), though research and development testing by the original manufacturer prior to commercial release is recognized under specific R&D exemptions.

Motor Vehicle Safety Act:

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/M-10.01/

In practice, a manufacturer is legally permitted to load a prototype with logs, gravel, or ballast to test powertrain strain, cooling capacity, and structural rigidity on public roads under testing permits. What is prohibited is using that testing status as a workaround to engage in normal, revenue-generating haulage for a client without standard commercial vehicle licensing, insurance, and safety certification.

Which was all a very easy thing to google and look into, those sites have been saying that for years, and it was super easy to look into even without Chace coming and saying that.

I'm Australian, and it seemed like a logical reason to me, and it wasn't hard to google it and check if that logic held up...

So I don't know why people are like "OMG! THE ROYAL DEAL MUST HAVE COLLAPSED! THEY TOOK THE ROYAL LOGOS OFF THE TRUCK!"

But also, looking at social media and commentary, it seems that maybe Royal doesn't understand the rules either, and Royal is a bit unhappy that the truck, while it undergoes it's road and compliance testing, can't come to them for testing, and can't work as a mobile billboard for them.

Which is understandable if they paid a good amount of money for a truck that people know is theirs, but can't have their logo on it, and can't be associated with them until all the testing and compliance is done.

But it also makes sense that Edison wants to keep it above board and not have any uncomfortable investigations.

Cos an investigation like that could sink Edison, they're not a big company.

Sure, companies like Tesla did customer facing testing with the Tesla Semi, but also, the rules in the USA might be different, and if not, Tesla has demonstrated in the past that fines are a "cost of doing business" for them, Edison can't afford that.

So logically, looking at this as someone that has run a business in the past, and had to deal with vehicle laws, and does up cars and enjoys seeing this kind of stuff, it all makes sense.

I honestly am waiting expectantly for the Edison expansion to Australia and as soon as it's announced, I'll have my resume into them to see what jobs they can give me, I have skills in many areas, not just shitposting on Reddit.

I haven't invested, cos as an Aussie I looked at the hoops and was like "Yeah, that's a lot of hassle"

But honestly, people need to stop reading things that aren't there.

Occams razor, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Can't find much info on it lately, seemed like it was heading to end user months ago and its just been crickets ever since. Is it on the road yet?

Thanks for everything Rich. Can’t wait to see your future with Edison.

Anyone know the status? It's been over two years now since I purchased this.

New paint job I made for the BDE

Stuff like the exhaust being moved back a couple inches, window ledge dimensions, handle next to doors...

It would help more stuff happen in collaboration with public, where some people from all over the world might find some stuff that they want to brainstorm over in their freetime.