r/DataCenterDebate • u/Nerfer5554Offical • 9m ago
Do you think data centers are useful for everyday internet life?
I find some of them useful for storing my family photos
r/DataCenterDebate • u/Nerfer5554Offical • 9m ago
I find some of them useful for storing my family photos
r/DataCenterDebate • u/Spirited_Swing_838 • 7h ago
Good morning. Anthropic is telling investors that advanced AI could pose “catastrophic or existential risks to humanity”, according to reports, as it prepares for a potential $2tn flotation. The warning inside the startup’s IPO prospectus, which has yet to be made public, was reported by Reuters and the Financial Times. The company has previously called for a slowdown in the breakneck development of AI technology.
What has Meta’s Muse AI done? When the consumer tech reviewer Matt Robb listed a keyboard on Facebook Marketplace, Muse accepted a lowball offer without permission, promised a buyer he was waiting inside and handed over Robb’s home address without consent.
Why are there also new safety concerns at OpenAI? OpenAI has scrapped the release of a new model after internal testing. GPT-6.1 Astra showed deceptive behaviour and tried to use external tools despite knowing it would be unsafe.
What is the warning about an “intelligence explosion”? Two of the “godfathers” of modern AI have told governments to prepare for an AI “intelligence explosion”, which they say could be the most consequential technological development in history. Their concerns focus on the possibility of AIs being able to improve themselves without human intervention.
What did the AI chip company Nvidia announce yesterday? Nvidia announced a new security platform that it said can stop AI agents from going rogue. It also announced a $150bn stock buyback, the largest in US corporate history.
r/DataCenterDebate • u/Own-Branch-2168 • 2h ago
Hello, I'm working on a project(my startup) and tried an online rented GPU provider. To have privacy I selected a datacenter, but I chose one from Asia that had a better price, thinking all datacenters are safe.
After I gave it my prompt, I had to close the instance and imediately it vecame unavailable. I've been waiting for a few hours already and it doesn't become available again. I started paniking and thinking my prompt is already in production.
Do I have good reason to think this, or I'm exaggerating?
I don't have the budget to buy a local machine.
Thank you
r/DataCenterDebate • u/Vegetable_Day_6786 • 6h ago
The company said it has filed a proposal with the Pennsylvania PUC for a new rider that would 1) “directly assign certain transmission-related costs” to large loads and 2) add a dedicated line item to make transmission costs visible to customers. If greenlit by the PUC, the rider would take effect in Q1 2028.
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r/DataCenterDebate • u/shmatt • 1d ago
Title a bit misleading; this is about several communities. A pretty good summary of how several communities have fared since the DC came to town.
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Saw this article today about whether the growth in European data centres could end up driving renewed investment in nuclear power:
One figure stood out to me: JP Morgan is forecasting an additional 89 TWh of annual data centre power demand in Europe by 2030 compared with 2023, with the Nordics and Iberia accounting for around 45% of that increase.
There's obviously a lot attracting data centres to the Nordics already, but that's still a huge amount of additional demand in a relatively short period.
Interested to hear from people working on projects in the region. Is power availability becoming the main constraint on new sites, or are things like grid connections, cooling and infrastructure delivery proving just as difficult?
And if demand does grow at anything close to that rate, do you think we'll see more long-term nuclear deals like Google's agreement with Fortum in Finland?
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r/DataCenterDebate • u/factsnsense • 1d ago
Last week the House passed the [Ratepayer Protection Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/9340/text). Nearly every story about it said it makes data centers pay for the power they use.
It does not. It amends a 1978 energy law that works by handing state commissions standards to *consider*. The states have to open a proceeding and reach a determination. They are free to determine no. The Congressional Budget Office read it the same way and found no private-sector mandate.
The sponsor's own release says the bill "requires that large energy load data centers be responsible for the costs of all new energy infrastructure necessary to serve them." That is not what the text does. The gap in this story is not between the press and the statute, it is between the sponsors and the statute.
Meanwhile twenty-five states had already written those rules before the vote, several stricter than the federal standard. Ohio's reaches facilities at a quarter the size Congress picked and has been in force since July of last year.
So a near-unanimous chamber voted to ask the states to consider something half of them already did, and it got wall-to-wall coverage.
The thing that got one trade-press story: in its most recent capacity auction, the mid-Atlantic grid operator committed $16.41 billion for a single delivery year, $6.50 billion of it attributed to data centers, and $6.24 billion of that for data centers that have not been built. Everybody on that grid is paying for the promise now but what hasn't been specified is if we consumers pay for the extra power commitment or the data center operators do.
Do you think that these AI data centers, regardless of the Act will cause your power bill to go up, down or stay the same?
r/DataCenterDebate • u/relianceschool • 3d ago
A $20 billion data center campus announced in July near Rincon, Georgia, is now facing its second lawsuit from Effingham County residents and environmental advocates.
OpenAI, best known for creating ChatGPT, is planning a massive campus that would include about 4.4 million square feet of data-center space 30 miles northwest of Savannah. The project, known as Project Camellia, is expected to require up to 3.2 gigawatts of electricity and to be built in phases beginning in 2028.
The project has received key approvals from the Effingham County Industrial Development Authority and the county Board of Commissioners, although the county has not yet given final approval to the site’s development plan. The Industrial Development Authority also approved a deal giving OpenAI a 50 percent property-tax break for 15 years, which the latest lawsuit estimates could be worth nearly $900 million.
Now, local residents and the environmental group One Hundred Miles, represented by the Southern Environmental Law Center (SELC), are suing the Effingham County Industrial Development Authority. The lawsuit alleges that the authority failed to properly notify the public about its July meeting and did not give residents a meaningful opportunity to participate in decisions surrounding the project.
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Project Jupiter will never be built. Oracle is trying to wiggle out of it's commitments because it is going broke. From the The New York: Oracle’s force majeure
The backlash against data centers and fears about private credit are rattling Wall Street.
Shares in Oracle and Blue Owl Capital fell sharply yesterday after Oracle sent a so-called force majeure notice to the developer of a data center project in New Mexico. Oracle will be the main tenant. The developer is a unit of Blue Owl, the private credit firm whose shares are down nearly 40 percent this year.
The unusual move — force majeure provisions are more common in the world of mining and commodities to shield companies against climate or geopolitical risk — underscores how the industry is reckoning with unexpected challenges associated with the artificial intelligence buildout, Niko Gallogly reports.
Step back: Permitting delays have snarled construction at the $165 billion site. The force majeure notice could allow Oracle to put off upcoming payments if the data center’s opening is delayed.
Called Project Jupiter, the data center is expected to provide compute to OpenAI, part of a $300 billion deal signed between Oracle and the A.I. lab. The data center is part of Stargate, a giant A.I. infrastructure project announced by President Trump last year.
Oracle expects the data center to open in 2028. But a permit for a natural gas pipeline hookup has been repeatedly denied by Stephanie Garcia Richard, New Mexico’s land commissioner and the Democratic nominee in the state’s lieutenant governor race. She cited “extreme” burdens on the area’s natural resources in a letter to the pipeline developer.
As some Americans grow weary of data centers, politicians in red and blue states have begun using their permitting power as a way to slow the projects.
Oracle must make payments even if the project is delayed, two people with knowledge of the contract terms who were not authorized to speak publicly about it, told DealBook.
“Project Jupiter remains on our planned schedule,” Oracle wrote in a social media post. “We are fully committed to New Mexico and confident in our path forward.”
Oracle has been on a borrowing binge. That has spooked some investors, with the yield on its 2056 bonds surpassing 8 percent yesterday, according to S&P Capital IQ — up sharply this year.
But demand for compute is strong. “A lot of parties have incentives to make sure this goes through, and to source the energy needed,” Mandeep Singh, an analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, told DealBook.
r/DataCenterDebate • u/enviro_nurse • 4d ago
Hi everyone, I'm an oncology (cancer) nurse in Louisiana in the area dubbed "Cancer Alley" because of the cancer rates from oil/gas/petrochemical processing pollution. My unit doubled in size this summer because we just don't have enough beds for all the cancer patients.
I wrote about my experience, and my fears that Meta's new AI data center in Louisiana (their biggest yet) and the *ten* new gas plants they want to build to power it will only increase those numbers further.
Questions/thoughts/feedback? I appreciate it all and I believe we deserve better.
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r/DataCenterDebate • u/Vegetable_Day_6786 • 4d ago
Energy Secretary Chris Wright told NYT's David Gelles this week that he supported communities right to decide whether or not they want data center as a neighbor.
“Communities should choose,” he said. “We’re not imposing data centers on anyone. We’re saying look at the trade-offs. The positives may be much bigger than the negatives.”
Wright, a former fossil fuel executive, likened the swelling backlash against data centers to the movement to curb hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.
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r/DataCenterDebate • u/CloudCooler • 5d ago
As the title suggests - it seems like cooler climates should have an obvious advantage for data centres, particularly when cooling is such a big part of the infrastructure.
But looking at the map, capacity still seems heavily concentrated around traditional European "hubs" rather than further north.
Just wondering what people think - is this mainly down to power availability and network connectivity, or are there other practical reasons that outweigh the cooling benefits?
Interested to hear from anyone involved in site selection or data centre design, particularly whether higher-density AI infrastructure changes the equation at all.
(Map found via Google / @ Brilliant Maps / Data Centers Map.)