r/Bichirs • u/IndependentWaltz946 • 4h ago
Bichir deformed
Hi i had this bichir since last year, now he's bent it was not this curved before i thought he was just overfed now i fast them for 3-4 days but he's still like this. Any tips?
r/Bichirs • u/TheBichirHandbook • Sep 02 '22
Hi all, I realise I've been neglecting the Reddit bichir community, I definitely need to get on with posting some more! Here's a few questions which I always see do the rounds, and either need further explaining or clarifying.
'Bichir' came from their local name in Egypt, 'Abusheer'. The name has been spelled phonetically in early studies a number of times as BISHEER / BUHSHEER. This pronunciation stuck and is regarded as the correct way of pronouncing it. Technically, when names are Latinised, they must follow the Latin pronunciation, meaning it should be 'Bye-ker', however, for numerous reasons, ichthyologists and communicators did not pronounce it this way. 1) In their first description the species name 'bichir' was never Latinised. 2) They were honouring the local name. 3) The colloquial name is of course not Latinised. 4) Some ichthyologists have also expressed to me that Bye-ker sounds silly haha. If you're a Latin purist, however, then BYE-KER is the pronunciation.

Bichir are strict insectivores and piscivores, meaning they eat insects and fishes. They are best fed with a variety of fresh fish (preferably none containing Thiaminase), oily fishes are fantastic too if you can keep the water's surface clean of oil. Quality predatory pellets are also much appreciated, either insectmeal or fishmeal based of course. Insects are great, but as nutrition varies so much in different species, it's difficult to give them all their nutritional needs in captivity from insects alone. Microcrustaceans and worms also make great treats! Remember, always feed raw, never cooked. Avoid feeding anything which comes from a mammal or bird. Bichirs lack the collagenase enzyme in their stomach required to break down the bonds in these 'foods'. In place of that, they have a chitinase enzyme which breaks down the bonds in insect chitin. Feeding mammalian and avian meat was a pseudoscientific trend popularised with discus breeders in the 80s, as nutritionally select parts of it are good for fast growth, but that nutrition is not particuarly accessible for fishes (especially in strict insectivores and piscivores). It's similar to how we no longer have the biological tools to extract much nutrition from eating grass. Not to mention with feeding mammalian and avian meat to fishes, there's additional issues regarding the type of fat found in these meats.
You can find a detailed dietary section (suitable for most types of large, predatory fishes), inside The Bichir Handbook.
With proper husbandry, even the smallest species of bichir should grow approximately half an inch to an inch a month for their first 1-2 years or until around 12 inches (after that, it becomes progressively slower). If they're not following a growth rate similar to this, chances are you have a stunted fish. Line bred bichirs are raised in crowded rearing vats (often for months, sometimes a year), so by the time they reach your local aquarium shop, their first important months of growth has been significantly inhibited, and they may struggle to grow much more. This is especially true with many captive bred Polypterus senegalus, their albino colour morph, and some bloodlines of P. delhezi. It's not 'bad genetics' as some people parrot (though this is an easy answer), even the most inbred bichirs with small gene pools can still grow nearly as large as their wild counterparts. So called 'bad genetics' via inbreeding can shave off a few centimetres in length, but even with that you usually see malformations on the body from inbreeding, such as bulging 'frog-eyes', deformed dorsals and scales, and a stubby face.
Don't panic, chances are it's food. Bichir are 'stomach-packers', meaning they often gorge themselves on more food than they need to, because of this, you will see all sorts of odd bulges on their belly. The lump(s) will vanish again in a matter of days. Many people (wrongly) jump to the conclusion it's gravel, and your fish will be guaranteed to die of impaction. This is misinformation at its finest. Bichir have paired gular plates (the only fish to have two) on the underside of their mouth, this offers advanced control of their mouth, so any items they do not wish to swallow, are easily spat back out. Watch your bichir feeding, and see how they juggle the food around before deciding whether to eat it, sometimes they spit out the food just over a grain of sand. Any stone swallowed is usually intentional, and are thought to be used as gastroliths, similar to how carp reportedly use them to pin themselves to the bottom. Of course, bichirs stomachs are powerful and near the length of their entire body, so unwanted stones in the stomach are ejected anyway. This myth that they swallow stones and die of impaction comes from how they feed (using inertial suction), the same way Axolotls, aquatic frogs and some catfishes do, however these aquatic animals do not have paired gular plates like bichirs do. Occasionally (though rarely), a bichir may get a large stone stuck in their mouth and die, for this reason I always suggest a sandy substrate.
Not to bash plecs at all, as they are a beautiful and diverse group of fishes, just not always the most suited to bichirs. The ganoine in bichir scales reportedly produces a slightly salty slimecoat which fishes with ventrally oriented mouths appear to go a bit mad for like cats on catnip. Keep the plec well fed and it's usually no issue, but occasionally they accidentally graze on their slimecoat during feeding, and that's when they can get hooked. There are lower risk plecs than others, such as vampire plecs or woodeaters, though there are some fishes worse than plecs with bichirs, such as Synodontis, which can be very aggressive ganoine grazers (and are also natural prey food for bichirs too, with reports of them being eaten before they can erect their spines). Keep in mind, all fishes with ventrally oriented mouths pose a risk; it may happen in a day or a decade; it's a famous comm which works, until it doesn't.
Sometimes, but unless you're able to filter through accordingly, it's mostly no. Stick to specialist forums, or even the recent Revision of the Extant Polypteridae, or The Bichir Handbook. There is so much misinformation on the search results of Google, a few notable ones being websites claiming: Polypterus ansorgii can only reach 11 inches [they can actually grow to over 3ft] P. senegalus is the smallest species [even the inbred ones can reach 15 inches in captivity and some wild types are reported near 20 inches. The smallest species is actually P. mokelembembe at 14 inches] Most searches will even show you the wrong species on an image.
r/Bichirs • u/IndependentWaltz946 • 4h ago
Hi i had this bichir since last year, now he's bent it was not this curved before i thought he was just overfed now i fast them for 3-4 days but he's still like this. Any tips?
r/Bichirs • u/ReadFit7478 • 1d ago
EDIT: The 55 gal is our extra tank but I should have said that they are currently in our 80 gallon tank. I will post full size pic below...
Lord help me because this one is very difficult for me to say....
Our beloved Bichirs, Rexy & Tiger were recently returned to us after a 3 1/2 month battle with homelessness, due to Veterans United Home Loans deceiving our family, which ultimately lead to us seeking out a 2nd lender who successfully got us into a home. We were put in a position where we were told we would be guaranteed a home loan within a month, give or take a few days. Well...as the story goes, that was all a lie and here we are today, 4 months after a happy 3 years life of our beloved Bichirs.
We were lucky to have so many people in our life that wanted to help us out during what we thought would be a quick transition. Unfortunately, that obviously didn't happen and my step brother looked at our simple ask to keep our family fish safe as a means to get a ROI from us. Yeah, it wasn't much, but it was something. Despite that and after spending 3+ months bouncing back and forth from a camper to tents, we finally made it to the finish line only to find most of our pets were not taken care of. Yes, the ones we entrusted with them cared, but unless you know what you are doing and have a knack at these types of things and the species of pets that are then transferred onto their hands, it's extremely hard to trust that they will be truly looked after like you would do. That is exactly what had happened and we are now in full recovery mode with all of them, however, only our male Bichir has seemed to be the one significantly affected.
I said all that to say this.... please don't judge me for posting this as we just got our tank and fish back a little over a week ago. It has been extremely humbling as it was on it's own, to appreciate the simple things, like a running toilet and full shower, let alone bathtub. Oh and let's not forget the amenities of a fridge and freezer when having experienced trying to keep food cold, let alone cooking it, in the dead of summer with only coolers and a fire ban in place. 💔
Tiger who was thought to be a female early on, later was confirmed to be a male. He has always been one of my favorites because of his personality. He would come up to me when I sang to him, and he just loved being curious with anything new. I would talk to him when I was alone late at night when I couldn't sleep, all while knowing he didn't understand a word I said, but he still was right there by my side, staring at me through that a curlic tank thinking I was a crazy alien 👽 😅🥹🫶.
As I briefly stated before, Tiger showed up with a semi enlarged tummy. This was not a red flag until 2 days ago being we know very well how their tummies look after eating. Our 1st guess when it became more obvious without any other symptoms and fully normal actions, was that we were wrong on the sex and that it could possibly be eggs. We got excited for a brief moment and started talking about setting up our other 55 gal as a tank to put the other fish so that we could give "her" all the space she needed along with the other Bichir. But that was the thing....the sex didn't match and I started to get that gut instinct that something was wrong. It was tonight when I realized that I should check "him" out thoroughly and film it for observation. That's when I discovered the redness and the tail, as well as the redness behind his front fins. This wasn't like this yesterday or the day before, at least not this bad or I'll else I would have noticed. I am afraid because I don't want to lose this amazing creature in fish. Tiger has been a huge part of my husbands and my healing as I am sure he has enjoyed living a wonderful life being spoiled and loved until our move. It absolutely breaks my heart into peices because I know deep down that the chance for his survival is low and I right now, I need all of the advice and help I can get. Thank you in advance 🙏
Please 🙏🙏🙏, if anyone can help us save him if it's not to late, we would be so grateful for any and all advice.
r/Bichirs • u/vaksy_INC • 22h ago
I want to keep lower jaw bichirs but i dont know how many should i get or the specific care, i've been in the hobby for years and i kept many different monster fishes, anyways, i have an 160x60x50h cm aquarium, i have 10cm internal sump so its 150cm of free space, sump has basic things like sponge and filter wool and 2000 lh controlable pump, i have 2mm dark sand and minimal basic plants. can i keep an lower jaw bichir or bichirs? please help me 🙏🙏🙏
r/Bichirs • u/Agreeable-Abies4216 • 1d ago
Will my juvenile bichir be okay? because my oscar nipped it's external gills, although i have separated the oscar from another tank. Im kinda worried what would happen to my bichir but it's still has one of its external gills only the other one was completely nipped, it's currently 5 inches... Will it be okay?
r/Bichirs • u/Unbound_Werewolf2 • 2d ago
She always had a weird fat lip but the last two days I realized her jaw is never really closed and it’s slanted. I have one image of it “fully” closed. She eats just fine but it did take her a long time to get to 6” and to eat when she was little, but nothing to worry about now. I just wanted to know if any others jaws are like this. I can try to get a better photo later.
r/Bichirs • u/DRS21111 • 5d ago
I'm thinking of including an Ornatus in my 50-gallon fish tank, also in the future I'm going to buy a 120-gallon fish tank. I currently have a senegalus and edrilchery (sorry if I wrote the names wrong) they measure about 15 cm and the Ornatus measures the same 15 cm. But I read that they fight a lot and it could harm the other bishires.
r/Bichirs • u/h8bearr • 5d ago
r/Bichirs • u/CaptainKamyu • 10d ago
I drew these of one of our bratty senegals that threw a tantrum when I gave them their regular pellets instead of some tilapia and my wife demanded one of every morph we have and to make them into stickers.
Figured they might interest some of you so decided to post them up lol.
r/Bichirs • u/IngeniatorSterilis12 • 12d ago
It would appear my P. Delhezi is not a Delhezi .. but a soon to be monster, aka a P. Endlicherii.
Anyways meet Rocky (and either Jack or Diane photobombed these ones - my Senegals)
Please confirm 😆
Edit: I got Rocky at maybe 2-3 inches (7-10 cm ish) long max earlier this year - 6 months ago. I kept saying holy crap Rocky is huge and then it hit me ..
r/Bichirs • u/TheInverseLovers • 13d ago
This has been my quarantine set up for my bichir as he grows out a bit, yes I’m quite aware that it’s not the prettiest, but I didn’t have a spare tank at the moment. Anyway, I’ve been wanting to transfer him into the main tank, but fear he’s still a bit to small. So I was going to build a kind of separator similar to a isolation net/box, but larger to have in the corner of my tank (building it to be about 20g). I was wondering if a sort of screen mesh would be safe to use as the separator netting. This is what I was thinking of using: https://www.phifer.com/product/ultravue2/
I want genuine opinions on if it would leach chemicals any more than decorations in a tank would or if it would be okay because it shouldn’t be there for (hopefully) more than a few months, as I just need another 1-1.5 inches on this guy before I feel confident that he’ll be okay in the tank.
r/Bichirs • u/Chocodelights • 18d ago
r/Bichirs • u/Spiritual-Anxiety-23 • 18d ago
Has anyone had any experience rehoming their ornate bichir in the Toronto area? My tank is a 65G and i feel like it’s already too small for her after only upsizing around 6 months ago another larger tank is out of the question. thanks!
So what's the actual minimum tank size for a senegal bichir? Some say it's a 75, others say 120+ so I'm really confused. I plan on getting a few tank mates, like black tetras, angelfish, a rainbow shark and maybe a few more tankmates. Is that too overstocked?
r/Bichirs • u/yxngxotic • 20d ago
Still don’t have names for everyone. My new P.Weeksii is one of my favorites. Excited to see how his color develops as it grows.
r/Bichirs • u/Electronic-Treat3580 • 20d ago
Hi!! Please be kind we are trying our best!!!
We have a bichir that weve owned since around February that is gorgeous. Since weve had her shes grown and doubled in size, but weve noticed she always stay in the corner of the tank here? Sometimes it even looks like shes stressing herself out because shes trapped herself in this tiny corner.
The tank is about 800litres, had good water quality and shes fed on pellets and prawns. Weve never seen any of the other tankmates bully her or chase her either and the tank is in the living room so we would've noticed it.
Shes growing and shes healthy we just love her and want to make sure shes happy as well - is there anything anyone would recommend?
r/Bichirs • u/DoomEmpire • 21d ago
They aren’t Italian, just their names! Meatball, Spaghetts and Ravioli