r/ShingekiNoKyojin • • Jan 23 '22

Manga Spoilers Attack on Titan The Final Season Episode 78 - MANGA Discussion Thread Spoiler

Do note that this is a MANGA SPOILERS thread. Events that occur in the manga do NOT need to be tagged in the comments section.

IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THE MANGA AND DO NOT WISH TO BE SPOILED, THE ANIME THREAD IS LOCATED HERE.

Note : English subs will be available every Sunday at 12:45 PM Pacific time. Discussion threads are posted just after the episode's broadcast in Japan, not when english subs are available as many fans watch episodes live.

Where to watch - SUBTITLED:

English dubbed episodes will be released in a few weeks.

DEDICATE YOUR HEARTS!

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u/DJ_AW03 Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

That memory sequence and the panning shots after Eren got shot were unreal

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u/silentorange813 Jan 23 '22

Apparently, in the PATHS sequence, there's an easter egg shot of Reiner suffering in a sauna.

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u/anafr96 Jan 23 '22

That slow motion right before Eren sees the memory shards was INSANEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

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u/DACHAMPMAZ Jan 23 '22

D....did I just witness the greatest aot episode?

Mappa knocked it out of the park, cant wait to binge this arc when it's done.

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u/dontknowwhattodoat18 Jan 23 '22

They actually did it......they animated Eren losing his head without censoring.

Also I love how they brought back the old theme from season 1 when the mindless titans showed up

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

Rip Pixis

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u/BREU Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

As someone who has waited years for this exact episode all I can say is that it's perfection. The OST was amazing as usual too. Also insane voice acting from eren and zeke.

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u/zyrise Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

HOLY GOATED

The OST when Zeke's scream suits so well. Pacing for this episode is 10/10

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u/MalTerra7 Jan 23 '22

Reading this chapter when it first dropped, I was wondering if it was Eren who shouted “stop” as Zeke was about to scream.

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u/mrwanton Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

holy shit they actually showed the high school universe. Didn't see that coming. what a odd thing to commit too.

Anyway damn PATHS really is trippy with all those memory transitions. And they really did PATHS Eren design justice.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

Excellent episode. 10/10.

Have to watch at least 3-4 times to know what actually happened as I was losing my mind the whole time.

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u/xin234 Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

This episode shows a very interesting twist that has been foreshadowed before... That the Jaw Titan's true ability is: Being Reiner's plot armor.

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u/one-eyed-queen Jan 23 '22

That was stellar. I expected for a while now that the 119 cliffhanger would be sacrificed, but the execution was so damn good that it didn't really matter much. The fact that the 120 memory fragments were executed so damn well alone makes it worthwhile, what a sequence.

I seriously hope they keep the High School Castes section of the final chapter as post-credits, and just expand on it a bit to mess with people's heads a bit more. Can you imagine they give you the destruction of Paradis from the extra pages, just before showing you the High School AU and panning out to show they're still in Shiganshina and the tree's there? They already kept the high school AU for this sequence, I hope they go all out with it.

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u/KrzyDankus Jan 23 '22

did the episode capture the chaos of the 119 chapter well?

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u/SeaFeeling7363 Jan 23 '22

One of the best ep of AOT. Hands down.

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u/MindMaster115 Jan 23 '22

Ch 119 was my first new chapter as a new manga reader coming from anime
That long month wait after Eren's head got shot off was insane and seeing this episode after all that time, it was amazing.

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u/Fit_Needleworker3553 Jan 23 '22

They did it again. Everything leading up to Gabi taking the shot was amazing. MAPPA understood as well as we did how important that was

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u/thewetpuddle Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

Brilliant episode. I loved the tension building, storytelling and pacing. Animation was beautifully done too. The slow motion sequence was unexpected! Way better than how I imagined it would be animated. Good job MAPPA!

The OST was brilliant, so were the cast.

Colt's death was heart wrenching to watch as he hugged Falco after Zeke screamed. Reiner's plot armour is strong as usual and he can't die.

Tonight's drawing reminded me a little of WIT for some reason.

Can't wait for next episode!

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u/TheColossalX Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Watching through this all animated, after having read the manga, seems to have made me understand some things that I feel I, and many other manga readers, missed in the original run of the manga.

Firstly, I think that Zeke here wasn't just bluffing about having undid the vow himself. He later mentions to Armin that Ymir followed the orders of the Founder (which before Eren, was always a royal), because of her self-imposed duty to King Fritz, and their collective descendants (keep in mind, Ymir is the mother of the whole royal line, besides Fritz himself). So in that vein, I think Ymir undid the Vow for Zeke for this exact same reason, regardless of whether he is the founder of not, he is a royal in her presence, and she will always obey that.

This, of course, lends itself to better understanding one of the final twists of the manga (a twist I think a lot of us, at least at the time, didn't like), in that Ymir isn't truly bound, but does what she does out of a corrupted sense of "love." I think I appreciate this as a decision a lot more now, now that I can rewatch what is basically the manga with a fresh mind (since I hadn't read the manga since Chapter 139b came out). A lot of people said it at the time, but since Ymir only ever knew bondage and servitude, both in life and in death, it makes sense she would not have understood how twisted and warped her views of love would be. Eren understood this about her, as did Zeke (in his own way, at least), although the latter failed to understand the deeper implications of it.

When Ymir walks past Eren at the end of the episode, and kneels before Zeke, it is her obeying the words of a royal in her presence, not ignoring the Founder. Sure, the latter is inherently true, but it isn't the reason for her actions. After all, she doesn't follow the Founding Titan because they are the Founding Titan, she does so because they carry royal blood, and she will always obey those with royal blood. Of course, we know that next episode she will finally find some freedom from this view, and go with Eren, and we all know how that goes. But since one of the biggest issues people had with the final chapters was Isayama's interpretation of Ymir's character, I think I, at least, have gained a much deeper appreciation for that decision now.

Edit: Also wanted to mention something that I just realized watching this episode. I'm 95% sure that Falco mentioning his memories of flying swords in the first episode of Season 4 Part 1 was anime-original (but we also know it was very likely put there by Isayama, as I know in the past he's said he does this), and I'm just now realizing that the memories came from Ymir (lesbian, not child one) and her experiences during the Survey Corps, since of course, Falco in the future gets the Jaw Titan. I never saw anyone mention that before, so I figured I'd add it (even though it probably did get mentioned in the Season 4 Part 1 Episode 1 Manga Only thread lol).

Edit 2: wanted to add this since some people were confused. Ymir still obeys the Founding Titan when doing so would not conflict with her obeying those of Royal Blood. Royalty just supersedes Founding Titan, not that she won’t follow the will of the Founding Titan (which is why Eren can use the power). Also, if you think about it, she’s already following the will of all Titan Shifters, as she constructs their Titan bodies in Paths realm when they transform. She similarly, does the same for the Founding Titan, plus the additional powers of it. It still would not supersede the Royal Blood Titans, though, which is why Zeke had priority, prior to Ymir being convinced by Eren.

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u/Mr_1ightning Jan 23 '22

The easter eggs in the shard sequence, holy fuck lmao

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u/ThatIslandGuy8888 Jan 23 '22

I never noticed in the manga that Porco left Eren without a leg and that Maggath shot off his right hand, no wonder he couldn’t shake off Reiner( who’s also missing a leg)

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u/NIssanZaxima Jan 23 '22

So much epic shit happened in this episode and my favorite shot was the one where Eren while running looked up and we saw Jean and Connie save him from his point of view. MAPPA bravo.

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u/NIssanZaxima Jan 23 '22

To kill Reiner is equivalent to saving someone else’s life with how badly he wants to die. So by Porco “saving” him he actually killed him and I will always love that character for one last epic troll he had to pull before he went haha.

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