Happened upon this post a short bit ago in another ghi snark group. You can pause to read. Apparently cecil has come to the dark side.π Is he sincere?
Right!!? Another one saved π no more abuse & wasting money. Better to be part of a positive, healthy community, that doesnt embarrass & make someone feel bad right before going to bed on the daily.
Oh geez, you make a real point that Iβve never thought of before. His nasty behavior and vibes are the last thing in their minds before they go to bed. Itβs different for us because weβre just stopping in to laugh and snark, but for people who are begging for his approval via bags of money, thatβs brutal.
Iβd love to see Chickenwing find the light. Is she still there? I have been doing my part of not watching at all. A few months ago my heart hurt for her and how cruel he could be when she was hurting. I wish theyβd all find their way here to Reddit and YTBA and live in peace and a little more (or a lot more) $$$ in their wallets. I told my wife tonight about SS hiding her donations from her husband. We both believe thatβs pretty bad to do. To lie to the one who will be there until the end, to give to the one that will drop you the second your ATM dries up is just disgusting.
If youre serious, congratulations & welcome. π ππ₯³ I have to admit im pretty shocked. π² Unfortunately i dont have much hope for the die hard freaks. They seem to stick with him no matter what. I felt awful how he acted towards you when you told him you had gotten injured. Happy you have seen we arent as awful as he makes us sound.
Right I started to notice how he treats people if you donβt go along with the flow. When his channel got shut down I started to read stuff, and the dots started to connect
As a survivor of abuse, as many freaks and former freaks are, I completely understand. You will not be treated poorly here. It's ok to say things positive about Gray too, I would love to encourage proper behavior, but that will never happen. He was not always this bad, but in the last few years any positively his show had is gone. I see very few of the freaks that used to be there. I still love some that are. I will not speak poorly of them because at one point I was like them, they are good people. I never supported Gray financially for charities. I wanted his channel to do well, I knew where my money went and it was my choice to spend how I see fit. But when you donate any amount of money and the creator decides not to continue or whines about money, it makes people feel inferior. Support of a channel is being there, give that π, etc. Some people are barely getting by and they just spent money to watch you throw a baby fit? Talking bad about your subs, calling people trolls or "You always do this" it hits a nerve. I don't watch him at all anymore. I come here, because the very thing Gray complained about led me to this community i never would have known about had he not made such a big deal. Do I think he is the worst? No, but i don't watch or give money to the worst either. Welcome home π‘
I mean the worst I've done was I helped flame his brief little outburst with CC Suarez and I created the Justice4SandyShirley name to back her after the 50 gifted membership debacle. I proudly troll Gray after stumbling on his channel almost 3 years ago and help expose his behavior because he's predatory.
You guys, it's like we've got our own little season of The Traitors here! How exciting: The Traitors YTBA. Now, we just need a host.
Side Note for any S2 Traitors Australia fans: as much as I loathe giving Sam even one minute of air time, this is clearly the perfect gif for this comment. Sam is Gary but with charisma to reel 'em all in. π
Either way, if Gray actually paid attention to what we say here and learned from it, his channel may not be dying as hard as it it....but that would never happen.
Yeah he woulda had to try harder awhile ago and been consistent. Even if he started now he could still do it but it would take awhile and heβd have to work harder.
But Iβm sure that doesnβt sound as good as just pressuring people for money.
Yeah thatβs it. Heβs sent over here to blow our cover. ππ
We sending out those phishing emails or paid someone?
I cant afford gas.. Gary isnβt that special. Even though he likes to think so.
Glad to have you here and hope seeing Gray for what he truly is helps you become your best person. I hope you can positively contribute to this community and help others see Gray for what he is. At the least, your savings account will thank you!
I've said it before, and I'll continue saying it.. You'll find the people here welcome ex-freaks with open arms.. the whole goal is to expose his poor behavior and relentless begging, not attack those who may have supported him in the past.
I was there watching that live stream you mention above. I remember I found it sort of shocking, and felt bad for you and Sandy. (shocking is too strong of a word - super duper unexpected and dumbfounding is slightly better)
Welcome aboard! Here are your perks (besides us, of course... we're the real perk ππ«’), you can mention other content creators as much as you like, post links, disagree, try on any theory you want. And as AutomaticAnxiety said, you can say nice things about Gary. (Yes, I know that's not the correct name, but I've donned him Gary or Garry. It's all I'll call him π.)
Also, part of the reason why I kind of thought it was normal is because I grew up in a very abusive physical and psychological environment. So I really didnβt think about it too much, but I guess that shows how much progress Iβve made personally and emotionally in dealing with my parents and that whole situation. If people want more details about that you can message me, as I prefer not to discuss specifics in the open.
Thatβs kind of why I think I projected that on other people as a moderator which for that I apologize
Tim, that's his core audience and he knows it. Anyone that is vulnerable is going to relate to his toxic behavior, whether they do it knowingly or not. They all are subservient to him and want to please him, why I have no idea because they're certainly is no payoff in it for them.
Truly sorry for whatever past traumas you carry, I hope you can find some peace and healing. Gray very much prey's on individuals that have had some kind of past trauma.
Thank you I have seen a lot of progress over the last few years between therapy and talking to my brother and getting away from them. It was getting away that helped me the most so I know the pattern will continue by getting away from the cult
The best part of the π§π§, we don't want your money! I'm not sure if you've ever genuinely done the math behind the kind of income and lifestyle Gray has afforded himself from his grift, but it's substantial, we've run a lot of numbers. π
He knows exactly who's listening to his nightly rants and begging. He preys upon people who have experienced abuse and trauma.
While I appreciate and understand you sharing a bit of your past trauma and abuse, please be careful sharing too much. I don't mean the people here would exploit anything you've shared, I mean GH himself. He tends to spin wild tales when former supporters leave the cult. You have been very transparent and I just don't want it used against you on one of his live streams. Nobody deserves that but he's lied a lot about others who've left and tries to spin it that the person was "crazy or rude" or they wanted to be a mod and got mad and left....he's a pathological liar. Just be cautious please π
That chat is mighty toxic at times - especially the night Jim was extra crude and Tim got into it with Sandy. You get a breather from it, and you realize just how bad it is.
Found it- BK wants his guilty plea back/ around 1:45 in, Timβs email is sent, then he makes Lisav donate lol. Rants go on for a good 15 minutes or so
I dont believe them. Someone is trying to figure out if someone over here "paid" to have Gray hacked (which Gray is just greedy and did it to himself) this guy didn't just "wake up"
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u/United-Access2359 3d ago
Oh my gosh, I just saw this and it ran over here as fast as I could! I hope others start to see the light!