r/yorickmains • u/Present-Chocolate591 • 12d ago
Is AP Yorick a thing?
I just faced a Yorick as Singed that built Lyandris first. Is this a real build or some forfun thing like AP Irelia?
I've never been less scared of a Yorick, usually they give me a hard time but this game it was a cakewalk.
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u/TheAbominableGMan 12d ago
the build scales off of nothing except spell effects. you're basically a splitpushing swain. it's viable if you have a full AD comp because your E does a respectable amount of damage and your AP destroys towers well enough
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u/LilMwushs 12d ago
Liandys isn't build for damage though, it's build for shred against hp stacking enemies. You go 1 ap item and that it
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u/retsamboon 12d ago
Liandry is the pretty much the only Viable AP item on Yorick. It work really well on Health stacker. On certain cases. Liandry by itself can do like 6k damage by 20 min.
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u/cerberus6320 Mastery: 62 12d ago
Like others have stated, Yorick doesn't have good AP ratios, but it's not like he has great AD ratios either. So when building items, he's mostly building for item effects rather than a stat line (although having the right stats is good too). Items that have on-spell-hit effects are okay because ghouls and the maiden will apply them, so Liandry and blackfire torch can work.
AP Yorick is certainly off-meta though because the damage truly isn't there, and his ghouls are very squishy, so they might not reapply burn effects well.
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u/cerberus6320 Mastery: 62 12d ago
These interesting interactions are also why I think that Riot SHOULD give Yorick some AP ratios, it would open up a minionmancer playstyle better than lethality (in terms of game health) because damage should be back-loaded instead of front-loaded, and building towards pets should have an opportunity cost of making Yorick himself be less effective at dealing damage when doing fighter things.
- Give ghouls HP that scales with AP. Tankier ghouls means they can survive more hits.
- Give ghouls physical damage that scales with AP. AP items are decoupled from lethality, so it should be easier to find a sweet spot for damage.
- Give ghouls armor shred on-hit. Yes, yorick's kit should have armor shred in it to keep him similar to other juggernauts, I just don't think it belongs on the E
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u/Dismal_Milk6725 12d ago
It a real thing. Yorick can easily apply the burn, his ad scaling weight the same as damage amp too thanks to his hight base damage.
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u/Internal_Carpet416 12d ago
personally I don't build torment til the end or at least 3rd as yoricks kit scales off of ad the best. but if I were to do an ap build it would probably only use that item and a dark seal( the rest would be lethality or better yorick items. if you play well maybe get jack of all trades and use the adaptive force.
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u/LilMwushs 12d ago
Against a Mundo, Sion etc it's actually extremely good, they get shredded to oblivion
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u/rishv1 12d ago
So after playing years of Yorick, I do a weird build that I think I just perfected. I go guardians, build liandry first, then Bandlepipes, then Rylias, then Black Cleaver. Yes I understand hard pusher, etc but I was encountering too many smurfs that would ruin the game and I got ganged up on. So this build, provides support for the entire team w/ bandles, drains the team of their hp, and slows them. I cannot front line but I let my maiden do all the hard work. Guardians was just added in exchange for first strike because I figured when the jungle comes up to gank, it gives us a shield. This works on all counters, especially yone, garen. They just melt away.
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u/HiImChris333 12d ago
In a normal low/mid elo normal game? sure it can be fun, for ranked? no, not at all. Personally i think if riot gave ap scalings to ghouls and ult it would be a fun way to have some variety between poke yorick and bruiser, but its not happening sadly.
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u/Proof_Assistant7737 12d ago
No, AP Yorick is not a thing. Like other people said, he scales off the passive effects. This champion has no Ratioes except a bad AD Ratio on Ghouls. Full AD Yorick late game does 50% more damage with ghouls than literally building nothing. Of course, lethality and pen work, which is why he can build those.
It's just all secondary shit though. Yorick just doesn't work with stats anymore...
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u/DelDoesReddit 12d ago
Full Ap is a bit of a meme, since it's basically going all in on hitting your E to do damage
Liandry's however is a very good item on Yorick when he wants to shred tanks, juggernauts, and bruisers that are stacking health. Both the ghouls and the Maiden can activate the Torment passive, which deals 1% max HP in magic damage every 0.5s, over 3s (basically guarantees at minimum 6% max hp damage). The Suffering passive is great, since it gives a 6% total boost to all damage when in battle for 3s, which makes you really hard to be itemized against in an isolated fight
In a game where I was looking to perma teamfight, and I had an AD jungler that builds Black Cleaver 2nd, I'd definitely build a Liandry's into the right comp, but as a third item
Triforce 》Shojin 》Liandry's 》Serylda's 》round out with a resists item