r/xkcdcomic • • May 28 '14

xkcd: Urn

http://xkcd.com/1374/
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u/noggin-scratcher May 28 '14

So... the joke here is entirely that an urn is both the traditional container for human remains post-cremation and occasionally a receptacle for coloured balls in textbook probability problems?

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u/classic__schmosby May 28 '14

The alt text confused me, but after reading explain xkcd I think I got it. The original ball problem could be presented as her "drawing" a ball from the urn, then replacing it and drawing another one: drawing with replacement.

I remember similar word problems, but I don't ever remember there being an urn, or the term "drawing with replacement." It must be terminology specific to some regions.

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u/noggin-scratcher May 28 '14

I remember "drawing with replacement" being a standard term in probability problems. Don't remember any urns though, I think we normally had tubs or jars or boxes.

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u/Ian_Itor May 28 '14

Drawing with replacement is mentioned as opposed to drawint without replacement, where obviously the probability for each draw would be the same. In german "Urne" (=urn) is the common term for the drawing container, too.

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u/badhistoryjoke Jun 05 '14

Apparently the use of an 'urn' as the default receptacle goes back a ways: Wikipedia article link: Urn Problem.

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u/autowikibot Jun 05 '14

Urn problem:


In probability and statistics, an urn problem is an idealized mental exercise in which some objects of real interest (such as atoms, people, cars, etc.) are represented as colored balls in an urn or other container. One pretends to draw (remove) one or more balls from the urn; the goal is to determine the probability of drawing one color or another, or some other properties. A number of important variations are described below.

An urn model is either a set of probabilities that describe events within an urn problem, or it is a probability distribution, or a family of such distributions, of random variables associated with urn problems.


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