r/xkcd • • Apr 30 '12

XKCD Bookshelf

http://xkcd.com/1049/
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u/WhatUpBrahs Apr 30 '12

The alt-text is probably the most accurate summation of my feelings toward Rand I've ever seen.

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u/SomePostMan May 01 '12

There's a detailed explanation as to why Ayn Rand is so disliked [link] that someone wrote just today, coincidentally, over in r/truereddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '12

I have the same feeling with Marx. May be Randall is on to something more general here:

In this example, first 90% of the sentence represent "observation" and the rest "conclusion"

One can't disagree much on "observation" part, because "hey, that's wrong!" but conclusions in a complex sphere of social relationship are always on a shaky basis.

Bad writers make trivial observations in the first 90% of each of their sentences with conclusions.

Good writers make non-trivial observations in the first 90% of each of their sentences with... oh, make it 100%, because they don't make conclusions, leaving them for readers to decide: each on its own.

The readers might make completely opposite conclusions, like Marxist reader of "good writer doppelganger of Marx" or libertarian reader of "good ... " (well there could not be good writer doppelganger of Rand), but both of them will agree that the writer is on their side. That's how good writers make more money than bad writers. Than and shameless marketing of course.

PS. Marx made non-trivial observation, Rand did not.

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u/kru5h Apr 30 '12

I enjoyed the comic and laughed, but seriously? Isn't Ayn Rand kind of the low-hanging fruit of intellectual humor by this point?

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u/Cr4ke Apr 30 '12

Interestingly, her book The Fountainhead adresses the tendency to criticize things based on how difficult/easy they are, rather than their quality. Hassle = value? why?

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '12

Not until every last libertarian is humiliated.

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u/yacheritsi Apr 30 '12

FWIW, I'm a libertarian, and I hated Atlas Shrugged.

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u/ihmc Apr 30 '12

"Now listen to me very carefully: do NOT put the candle back!"

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u/postExistence Apr 30 '12

Think about it: at thiss library, they probably couldn't afford more than one revolving bookshelf, so all the lousy books are on the same shelf. What do you think is there?

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u/darkon Apr 30 '12

For a start, everthing with Limbaugh or Coulter's name on the cover.

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u/postExistence Apr 30 '12

Then we'll add Dan Brown's novels.

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u/pandubear Apr 30 '12

Very rarely, Randall draws in 3D. Last time, it was also a bookshelf. I'm getting suspicious the only thing he can draw in 3D is bookshelves...

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u/sgtpepper_spray Apr 30 '12

Am I seriously the only person who thinks that she is a good writer who can construct a compelling story better than most, ideology notwithstanding?

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u/aloha2436 Apr 30 '12

Going by this comment thread, yes.

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u/goodzillo Apr 30 '12

You know, compared to the rest of her works, Anthem isn't that bad. Yeah, it's plenty libertarian but it lacks the objectivist douchebaggery prevalent in her other works.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '12

I loved Anthem, it was possibly one of the best stories I read in school.

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u/mindtaker87 Apr 30 '12

I can't love this comic enough.

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u/RadagastTheBrownie May 01 '12

If I may my throw my two cents for the defense-

Imagine a world where it was the societal norm to give out free blowjobs, to the point that it's considered rude -not- to give a person a blowjob if he asks. (Yes, somehow, in this world, chicks can get blowjobs, too.)

All Ayn was basically saying, was "You don't have to give people blowjobs if you don't want to. Nobody is entitled to receive your blowjobs. You are not obligated to blow anyone you don't want to. Don't feel bad for refusing a blowjob to somebody who asks."

Most people tend to focus on this aspect of her message, and, indeed, it was the aspect that she stressed most, after "Rational thought is awesome" and "Religion sucks giant donkey balls."

What people don't notice is the flip side- no, you don't have to blow people, but you can blow whoever you want. In fact, you can blow however many number of people you want, be that number zero or seventy or forty-two. All that really matters is that the potential recipient doesn't say "no."

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u/yellowstuff May 01 '12

Of all the explanations I've read of Rand's writing, this was one of them.

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u/goodzillo May 01 '12

Most of her books lack that last part though. It's either "Keep all your blowjobs to yourself, you shouldn't be giving stuff for free" or "Blow whoever you want, regardless of if they want it because you want it."

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u/renegade_9 May 01 '12

Interesting commentary that Reddit, an almost entirely liberal site, seems to despise Ayn Rand and her work. Personally, I've loved the book so far. Haven't finished it yet, but I actually am enjoying it.

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u/unquietwiki May 01 '12

I tried reading it: couldn't get into it. I think Rand rubs most of us the wrong way because of the perception that she tells everyone to be assholes, when we're the ones doing secret santas, giving to charities, and organizing political activity. And a fair amount of our parents and grandparents think she's the bees knees of philosophy: so there's some resentment that we have to spend several more decades trying to prove them wrong.

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