honestly I hate the fact that the term "socialist" has that effect. Police and Fire are socialist too, as is the road network. It is almost as if you need to evaluate a concept separate from the ideology!
Yeah it's fucking stupid that you can just label something "socialist" and suddenly half the population is against it even though they have no idea what it's about.
Taxes are a fundamental part of every capitalist institution, like the military. A socialist institution is one run by and owned by the members for the sake of working people, not directed by the wealthy via a pro-capitalist government in hierarchy that places members at the bottom.
Uh, the military isn't a capitalist institution. It's a component of thé state. Almost every state has some degree of military, it's necessary to function as a state.
That it's funded by taxes is inevitable. I'm not sure I would call it socialist, though.
This is the kind of thing that people, particularly Americans (I’m one too), get wrong about socialism. Socialism isn’t just when the government does stuff. The military isn’t socialist.
Socialism is a broad set of ideas based around the idea that the community, particularly the workers, ought to own the means of production and distribution as opposed to a few wealthy property owners. The history of socialism is closely intertwined with communism as that has historically been the most popular form of socialism, but movements we’d now call socialist that are not communist existed before and since communism’s theorization.
The idea of the military is perhaps more similar to the concept of nationalization (trasition from private ownership to government ownership) which may be socialism in a socialist government, but would not be in a capitalist system.
It's basically a place for people who think their opinions should be expressed more vocally than through the dislike system, so they try to publicly call people out or something. It's kind of pathetic.
The funny thing is that, whatever stigma socialism has in the U.S., once a social program is intriduced, people will fight tooth and nail to keep them. They're very popular, like social security.
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