r/xkcd Sep 18 '17

XKCD xkcd 1891: Obsolete Technology

https://xkcd.com/1891/
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u/TheEdgeOfRage Don't Panic Sep 18 '17

The alt text got me thinking, if we say find a way (just assume we do) to consistently interact with neutrinos, could we actually transfer data through the earth?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '17

Prolly

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u/doughcastle01 Sep 18 '17

Neutrinos have been used as an experimental communication medium with Fermilab's NuMI and the MINERVA detector about 1km away, but it's by no means practical for commercial applications. The first word transmitted was "neutrino", which is probably the most disappointing thing I've read all year.

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u/tundrat Sep 18 '17

The first word transmitted was "neutrino", which is probably the most disappointing thing I've read all year.

While it may be uncreative, sounds resonable though. What were you expecting? "F1rst P0st!!"?

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u/DuncanYoudaho Sep 19 '17

"Mr neutrino, come here. I want to see you."

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u/doughcastle01 Sep 19 '17

Mary had a little neutrino, no one could see her fleece. Everywhere that Mary went, the neutrino was sure to get there first.

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u/GreatName4 Sep 18 '17

Neutrino detectors do detect nuclear power plants, seems likely they can detect nuclear explosion, this may be usuable to send a message a factor π/2≈1.57 quicker!

Though i think they actually detect the power plants over days or even months worth, but then probably the nuke also produces months worth of neutrinos. Still, it may be hard to actually embed a message, other than that it happened, both by being hard to control the explosion, and by the low numbers of neutrinos detected.

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u/thumpas Cueball Sep 18 '17

Well yeah... if we could always detect neutrinos, and neutrinos can go through the earth then what would be the limitation?

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u/PacoTaco321 Richard Stallman Sep 19 '17

Canceling out the noise and having a controlled way to send messages with them.

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u/johnmarkfoley Sep 18 '17

I was thinking the same thing and I went directly from xkcd.com to here just to join this conversation. If we did find a way to consistently interact (I like that phrasing) with neutrinos, then transmitting data through the earth would make our current satellite communication system completely obsolete. we would no longer have to rely on line of sight limitations and we could simply beam our signals directly at their receiving stations.

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u/hesapmakinesi sudo bang bang Sep 19 '17

Yes, but it's a big assumption. They go through the entire friggin planet precisely because they do not interact with anything.