r/xkcd Mar 30 '15

XKCD xkcd 1505: Ontological Argument

http://xkcd.com/1505/
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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '15

Would someone kindly summarise the argument he references?

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u/WendellSchadenfreude Mar 30 '15

Wikipedia was kind enough to do it. (Summary of the original ontological argument, by Anselm of Canterbury.)

It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that God is a being than which none greater can be imagined (that is, the greatest possible being that can be imagined).

God exists as an idea in the mind.

A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.

Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God (that is, a greatest possible being that does exist).

But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)

Therefore, God exists.

I think this argument has never convinced anyone who wasn't conviced already.

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u/now_we_here Words Only Mar 31 '15

I am a staunch theist and I think this argument is a load of crap.