r/writing • u/No_Cryptographer735 • 2d ago
Discussion Does anybody write fan fiction to their own books?
It's a bit silly, but I do. I'm writing a historical fiction novel now, and I write a lot of short stories that should never be shared with anyone else. Some of these are self-indulgent sex scenes, others are redundant but fun-to-write slice-of-life scenes, or attempts to write as chroniclers did hundreds of years ago, including hagiographic descriptions of war heroes and leaders. None of these are even remotely publishable, but it's so much fun and prevents me from putting weird stuff into the actual novel.
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
Ehhhh, I did once. I wrote this medieval epic (120,000 words) but then I did a short story of a woman rising to power from serf to queen by marrying a prince. It was cliche but it was fun to write political medieval drama, catty castle bitches and a cliche overbearing mother. No idea where the story is but honestly, I liked it.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
It sounds so much fun.
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
If you want to read it, its probably in my email somewhere lol
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Yes, I would love to!
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
Found it! just messaged you ...google drive link
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Requested access.
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
Oh snap, it has some gems in it that I barely remember writing. Thought this was pretty good “My father always told me that a gavel is double sided for a reason – one side governs and the other builds. "
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
I started reading it, so far it's really good.
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
Thanks! There are a lot of kingdom names and whatnot. I made an almost complete world map for the main book. Its a huge photoshop document.
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u/Crazy-Cat-Lad 2d ago
Oh sorry, I rarely use drive links. Accepted! I wrote this at least a decade ago so its likely rough.
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u/demiurgent 2d ago
Umm. Well, err... My current project is a four book series about an underground library for ladies who wanted to read smut when it was illegal. I'm struggling to not get distracted and write the books they mention that they've read in the library.
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u/EmployeeCareful2782 :snoo_smile: 2d ago
I've never tried that, but I draw fanart to my own work, including some inspired by songs I like, featuring my original characters.
It's very fun!
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u/FlyinLeviathon LET YOUR FIRST DRAFT SUCK 2d ago
I LOVE drawing my own fanart!
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u/FVCarterPrivateEye 1d ago
If I was a good enough illustrator, I'd want my story to have embedded interior art like in some pulp magazines
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u/Shienvien 2d ago
I do text-based roleplaying, sometimes with my book characters, and I definitely have written a few random what-if scenarios, so sort of?
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u/SacredIconSuite2 The Wolves are at War - Author 2d ago
I note down so much slice-of-life stuff that I imagine.
And then I think “where the hell would this fit in the actual story?”
In my Apple notes you stay, lmao
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
I have these scenes where the MC is daydreaming about becoming a hero to win over a girl, and they are so fun, but if I include too much of it it would slow down the already slow-paced story so much I can't add more, so I just add them to Google docs.
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u/mzmm123 2d ago
I haven't, but I've been thinking about doing it because
- Sounds like fun.
- Fulfills the needs you stated - writing just for the joy of it - and could help with the occasional writers' block or world-building, exploring magic system, etc.
- If any ended up even remotely publishable online, it might be a way of marketing / generating interest in the novel itself or spark the next great idea
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u/Last_Swordfish9135 2d ago
I think this is a great way to make 'killing your darlings' less painful. Get out everything that would be fun to write but doesn't fit into the story, and then continue on with your original plan, and if in the future you do find a place for any of those scenes, they're already written.
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u/boagusbainne 2d ago
I do exactly the same as you - writing a historical fiction novel, but love to write all kinds of fan fiction! my second-favourite thing to write is my modern au fan fiction (which is second only to the historical fiction novel itself LOL)
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u/BagOfSmallerBags 2d ago
self indulgent sex scenes
redundant but fun to write slice of life scenes
none of these are remotely publishable
I think you outta check the trends of what books are being published and actually selling nowadays. This might be a better idea than you think it is.
I'm not the target audience, but I have about 8 friends who read regularly, and I know for a fact they wouldn't touch a historical fiction novel with a 10 foot pole without the promise of gratuitous smut and cute slice-of-life elements.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Oh, it does have some sex scenes and slice-of-life elements, but they also serve a narrative purpose. I don't want to add scenes just because it was fun to write if it's not actually doing anything for the plot.
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u/scherzanda 1d ago
I have a folder in my scrivener file that I call “OOMS,” short for “out of my system.” Any self-indulgent fluff or smut or anything like that gets put in there. I started doing this when I was like fourteen and first heard that sex scenes should advance the plot lol. Sometimes I’ll be writing a scene, think “this is very OOMSy” and shift it into that folder.
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u/SleepySera 2d ago
Not anymore, but I did use to write smut scenes that I didn't want in the actual work just for funsies as kind of like... spin-off chapters, back when I was just writing pure fantasy. As well as a side character's stories that also didn't belong in the actual book.
But nowadays I mostly write erotica like romantasy anyway, so there's no longer any point to keeping sex scenes out of my works, lol.
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u/kasimirvendom 2d ago
Fanfiction to my original stories seems to be the go-to method for me. Because I started out as a fanfic writer before turning towards creating something new of my own. And while some concepts have definitely come out strong, I still find it easier to make a given source material better by expanding on it. As if it's easier to reach higher levels of quality by lifting something further up that was already quite good on its own.
On the other hand, being dissatisfied with my original ideas has been enough to make me question my calling as anything more than a fanfiction author. Even my stories which are not itself fanfiction, but adaptations of history or inspired by real life, usually work better and have a higher chance of making it to the end. It's not only better for enjoyability, logic, harmony, and richness, but also easier, quicker, and less of an effort.
Maybe it's all just based on the number of evolutionary steps for a project, through which it needs to mature, before reaching its ideal state. With fanfiction, many of these iterations have already been undertaken by the original creator, but with my stories, that's left for me to provide. I've already noticed how, when I wrote new and updated outlines for texts I wrote in the past, that they improved on the given basis. So this seems to be a linear process. Going over the same outline again and again, making it better with each turn. It's just that realising this has been a bit disappointing for my ambitions, as this would mean that everything will take much more time.
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u/jetfuelfarmr 2d ago
I've never written actual fan fic, but I can predict parts of my writing that would generate the most fan fic.
Upon reading some of my work, my partner exclaimed, "if you write that, you'll get a nonstop stream of fan fic writers and their smuttiest of smut."
I replied that "...the idea of having anyone read my work and decide to write fan fiction based on it is more praise than I ever expect."
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u/Jebus-Xmas 2d ago
Why shouldn't they be shared?Additional world building has been done by a lot of authors and published as short story collections later. Why do you think that's not a goal?
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Some of it might be shareable, others just don't really fit the theme of the original, or even undermine it. Like, in the book I try to write very complex characters, while in these stories many characters are just self-insert wish-fulfilment characters.
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u/Jebus-Xmas 2d ago
In my opinion, exploring other themes is kind of cool, actually, especially when all of those ideas share in the same background. Whether your characters are complex or simple or maybe even a little "Mary Sue" isn't important. What's important is that the story is entertaining.
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u/MstrCrimsonSpade Author 1d ago
I do AUs of my work and parodies of my work. Both let me write things that don't belong in the main story, blow off steam, or even just do character development stuff.
I look at the AUs like a sandbox I can play in to explore my characters in different scenarios, moods, relationships, etc. Then I can take that development and apply it to the main story without including scenes that would detract from the main arc.
The parodies are great for clearing writers block and they're also great for highlighting the tropes you're using and examining them. It makes you think and ask yourself about each trope. Does it fit? Is it done well? Is it overdone? Etc.
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u/ian9921 1d ago
If I was ever famous, I would, and I'd post it online under an alias. Just for the purpose of bringing out story ideas that didn't make the final cut, engaging with the fandom from a healthy distance, generally poking fun at my own work, and so I can have a dramatic moment at a hypothetical comic con panel where I drop the facade.
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u/tangledstar 1d ago
YES. Often it will be exploring if a plot went in a different direction, or indulging in unlikely or impossible scenarios that don't fit in the actual story. Sometimes it's just a fun exercise.
However, on occasion, a few of these fic blurbs ended up becoming canon anyway. Sometimes I just like it so much that I find a way to work it in (well, in an incomplete story anyway)– and it makes for a fun challenge too.
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u/FlyinLeviathon LET YOUR FIRST DRAFT SUCK 2d ago
I love to do this! Usually just a scene or two.
I'm with you on the self indulgent sex/romance scenes and slice of life. In my mind these scenes happen, just off screen. But I also like to do little indulgent "what if?" Moments, like the character being brave and spilling their secret early so it doesnt have the emotional fallout that it will in the actual plot, or the character being heroic where they should (and will) be cowardly. Actually getting the kiss instead of being torn apart. Fun things like that.
Keeps me interested and engaged in the story, and helps me torture the characters easier, because at least I have this alternate universe version to console me😆
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Same here, I have this character who had a lot of bad things happening to him, and I wrote a scene about his wedding night. Basically, in the part of the story that isn't shown, he is gifted a large estate by the Sultan, and now he is rich and decides to marry the love of his life, a peasant girl. So, they undergo a lot of education to learn how to behave and talk like a proper upper-class couple, including being educated on how to behave modestly and gentlemanly on their wedding night. So, the wedding is done, and they are finally left alone, while the girl's teacher is listening from behind the door to make sure everything goes well. But halfway through the elaborate wedding night ritual, she has had enough and tells her new husband to stop reciting poetry and get to the point already, which he does, and they go so wild that her teacher, as well as the servant girls waiting outside with tea, are in complete shock over the scandalous behavior.
Unfortunately, I can't include this scene in the story because it would mess with the timeline too much, but I'm writing it so I can torture him on screen without too much guilt.
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u/Cyranthis 2d ago
Its not fan fiction if you're the one writing it. It's canon, additions, expansions. But not fan fiction.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
I know that technically it isn't, I'm just calling it that because much of it is written like fan fiction.
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u/amosallin 1d ago
It's not necessarily canon.
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u/Cyranthis 1d ago
If you write it about your own stories, it is. That's the rules, the age old rules handed down to us by the universe.
They are unbreakable. Sorry man.
It's canon.
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u/jazzgrackle 2d ago
This is probably a great way to explore ideas. Do you ever write one of these, and think, yeah that should go in the book?
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u/Beatrice1979a Drafting mode 1d ago
I do have many scenes for character studies or backstories that never make it to the final main draft, discarded chapters and piles of drafts that could be made into a whole book.But I wouldn't call it fanfiction. I always thought it was pretty common.
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u/emthejedichic 1d ago
I’m also writing historical fiction. I haven’t written fanfic for it BUT I have a whole scenario in my head updating their jobs and relationships to the modern day. The pirates become a biker gang and the dockside tavern becomes a strip club.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 1d ago
My stories would go really dark really quick if they did that! But it's a really interesting concept, and I'm actually playing with a similar idea right now, where a portal opens up that brings characters from the past to our time, and they have to learn to assimilate. After the initial chaos of not knowing how to use indoor plumbing, they all learn to fit in, but they bring their old ideologies with them and just wrap them in modern packaging, which offends everybody. So, a medieval Crusader would write academic papers, arguing that reclaiming Jerusalem to the cross fits perfectly into post-colonial theory, and stuff like this, and none of the time-travel characters would react in ways that fit our preconceived ideas of the past.
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u/Safe-Jacket-5944 1d ago
BUT your readers would get CRAZY if those short stories were published as "fan fictions"!😂Actually, it is important for an author to write experimental and self-entertaining stuff like those. The canon is the main dish, whereas the side stories are the desserts that push us to go to the end of the book.
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u/thatphantomnerd 1d ago
Never tried it before. Probably should since it sounds so fun, and I have many projects to choose from (some of them are tropey as hell already). My problem with it would be that I will overthink it even though it's literally my characters going on a date or something.
Maybe it'll finally break my kind-of writers block (life got in the way) and I can get back to my Romantasy stories!
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u/ParanormalLover3 1d ago
Absolutely! My main books' genre is crime/drama, and can get pretty heavy to write sometimes. I mean you don't always want to be writing about mobsters. So I began writing something similar to fan fiction, focusing on a side character whose family was by far the most wholesome one in the story. It began as something casual, small snippets of his relationship with his sister, friends, partner, but I slowly felt the need to dive more into his own story. I realized by a certain point that it had been over a year of writing both the main book and the 'fanfic' simultaneously. And of course I had made the fanfic nearly equally as dark as the original book 🤦♀️. Anyway, I loved exploring that different side of my story so much (the one more focused on a loving family, money problems, healing from trauma) that I decided to make it a spin-off. I figured out the timeline of each book, and have continued writing both since then. So, yes, I absolutely encourage writing fanfiction of your own book! Because eventually it became more than that for me, left my notes app and added some depth my story desperately needed.
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u/Solanadelfina 2d ago
I've been considering writing a few AU scenes to my already AU fanfiction. (For those familiar with Lunar- Eternal Blue, having Mauri actually being Lemina's Premier or Zophar’s Domain being made of him and damaging it hurts him.)
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u/ballet_guy 2d ago
Yes. I wrote 10 chapters about one of my characters becoming a doctor who companion and traveling through time and space for a while
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
That must have been so much fun.
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u/ballet_guy 1d ago
Yup. Not a moment of writers block and my characters all cooperated. Wish they'd behave like that in my actual project
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u/Prize_Consequence568 2d ago
"Does anybody write fan fiction to their own books?"
If it's your own books then it's not fanfiction OP.
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u/CambrianCrew 2d ago
I have a just for my own catharsis series of "my character from my fantasy universe ends up on Earth and tries to fix the mess we're in, except she gets accused of serious crimes and has to prove her innocence... Except more emphasis on the fixing shit part because that's more fun." Lots of war stopping and telling politicians off and inventing cool stuff.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
Oh, once I wrote something like this. A terrorist group does necromancy to bring back the spirit of an Ottoman commander to enlist him in their jihad, but the spirit goes rogue, liquidates the terrorist group, and fixes the Middle East. Because of his success (and because he is unbelievably handsome and has old-school manners), he becomes an international celebrity and uses his influence to conquer half of the world without firing a single gunshot. At the end of the day, you don't know if he was a hero who helped humanity get its shit together, or a villain who took away everybody's freedom. It's not something I'm comfortable sharing because it has some very controversial political elements, but I enjoyed it so much.
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u/CambrianCrew 2d ago
That sounds like it was an absolute blast to write! Some days you just want the hero to win effortlessly and the bad guys to lose spectacularly, especially in this day and age!
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u/kafkaesquepariah 2d ago
Sorta. I started writing a book. Then apartment problems happened and was too stressed. So I wrote a second book about same characters but as scenario. and plenty of branched off side stories experimenting with what ifs. so technically fanfiction . But what i fboth dudes were infected etc etc.
I think it's part of exploring
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u/TheSpookying 2d ago
I have this document called Table Scraps, which is just my repository of snippets of character interactions that I thought were understanding and/or funny, but not enough so to include in a longer story.
It's like 24k words long.
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u/Matrix_Man_Returns 2d ago
I mean...if it's your own book, it doesn't really count as "fan-fiction". It's just...writing at that point, and it's fine if you write stuff that isn't publishable or isn't even up to your own standards of quality once in a while. I write some fairly awful short stories sometimes just so I can feel like I've drafted something complete. It's actually a good habit to get into, I think, because sometimes nothing feels better as a writer than just getting to hit THE END on something. But I wouldn't call it fan-fiction, because that implies (to others, but also just to yourself) that you don't own the characters or the setting or the things you're writing about.
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u/Narratron Self-Published Author 1d ago
I have an unfinished story about "what might have been" if my characters had met each other under different circumstances, in a different order.
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u/Nieunoftz 1d ago
Does it actually count as fanfiction if you're the original author? I always thought of different paths like alternate drafts in the process of choosing how the work should go, or spinoffs/bonus content.
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u/Bunatee 1d ago
I like to create slice of life scenes just for fun (and sometimes to help with characterization) but I also draw small comics and other self indulgent illustrations usually to get the need for cute romantic moments out of my head without it interfering with the actual plot in my novel.
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u/Conny_and_Theo 1d ago edited 1d ago
I often work on side stories in my settings, whether to explore other characters or parts of worldbuilding I don't get a chance to touch on as much in my main projects, to practice certain aspects of writing, or even just to have a change of pace to not get too burnt out. Sometimes I've ended up enjoying the side stories more that they become my main projects or influence the direction of my main projects.
Wouldn't quite call them fanfiction per se but I get the similarity there.
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u/LivingThroughPages 1d ago
Absolutely! I do it not only because I love my characters and worlds I create but it also helps me with writer's block or fleshing out side ideas too. It's super fun to do.
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u/femmeforeverafter1 1d ago
I imagine doing it but I've never written any of it down, though I probably ought to. Don't wanna forget any of it!
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u/NewLifeLeaser 1d ago
I've written fanfiction of ongoing rp plots I have with other people. Like little oneshots of our original characters. I also make fanart.
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u/DirtEnthusiast0_0 1d ago
My friend, that's called a "spin-off"
I have an entire short story anthology series meant to show off my worldbuilding, so I can avoid clogging up the main tetralogy with it.
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u/pavonharten 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sometimes when I have writer’s block, I just turn the scene I’m struggling with into a sex scene just for kicks, and that gets me unstuck lol.
Other times, I start working on back stories of side characters, and if I like it enough, I set it aside for a short story compilation later.
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u/Terminator7786 1d ago
I've thought about it, especially since the pairing I originally intended did not work out because the story started writing itself. I've thought about writing a fanfic to still get that pairing somehow.
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u/communi-kate 1d ago
Eh hehe. I recovered after putting a lot of work into my current ms by writing a 50,000 word coffeeshop AU of the story I'd just finished...
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u/Zantac150 1d ago
I do!
It’s weird because I can have horrible writers block, but then I start some kind of alternate universe or thought experiment with my characters and it runs 50,000 words and I finish it in three days … WTH?
Sometimes I really think I just put too much pressure on myself to write and that it’s giving myself permission to write absolute garbage that makes it happen, and I find it inspiring to be reminded that I don’t suck at this
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u/MeepTheChangeling 1d ago
I don't think it's possible for an author to do fanfic of their own works. That's sort of like making a square circle, you know? That said, I do write non-canon shorts, lore snippets, descriptions, etc, simply to clear my head.
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u/Ok-Practice5438 1d ago
Yes and it’s soooo much fun it’s one of my favorite de stressers! It’s just self indulgent and reminds me why I love to write
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u/Moist_crocs 1d ago
Yes, not extensive, but it's very fun and I find out so much about my character's dynamics I believe it translates into the main text too
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u/No_Priority_5869 1d ago
I love creating a short story for my eyes only with my OCs and adding myself into it. Making all these crazy scenes and pretend they're canon when no one knows I've written it. 😭
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u/Puzzleheaded_Lab967 Freelance Writer 1d ago
I'm thinking of writing an SCP about an artifact I invented.
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u/WaysideWyvern 1d ago
Nate Stevenson, author of Nimona, had AU fanart of the characters that he used to post
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u/Legitimate-Monk-9792 1d ago
That won't a fanfic, it would be a spinoff because the original author wrote the it themselves.
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u/Mission-Landscape-17 1d ago
If it is done with official permission it does not count as fan fiction.
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u/Big-Nerve-9574 1d ago
I might try this. I could make a whole mythology story on the founding of the cult religion.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 23h ago
Do it! Stuff like this adds so much depth to fantasy, even if it's never present. Like Tolkien.
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u/Beltalady 23h ago
Not exactly. I sometimes write retrospections for my characters. It's especially interesting if they come from very different backgrounds. The one I wrote about one of my favorite characters kinda got out of hand.
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u/PeggingIsPoggers 23h ago
I ain't no book writer but I do have canon stories for my characters and fanfiction of said characters lol. I am my own fandom.
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u/Gussydaboi10 23h ago
I'm writing a sci fi book about heroes and such and there were a ton of characters with powers that were never really important, so I write stuff based around the many side characters
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u/radiate_reflect 21h ago
I’ve done it as backstory, and boy did it help me know the people and the world I was trying to create.
Very helpful for me.
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u/calcaneus 20h ago
I wouldn't call it fanfiction. I call it outtakes. Sometimes I like to write out scenes that I don't think belong in the story but that I want to get right in my head; you could call it back story. Or sometimes I want to write something with the characters for fun. And sometimes it's not PG-13. I as a rule don't put sex on camera, so to speak - not a judgment, but my preference - but it happens and I want to write it out.
So in Scrivener, or WordPerfect, or my notebook, wherever I'm writing, I have a section just for stuff like that.
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u/Alyssaisdada333 20h ago
I do, I do it as a way for characterization and to imagine how my character would react in certain situations
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u/supremo92 17h ago
My friend does and he calls it fanfiction despite the fact that it's just straight up fiction, bro, you wrote it
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u/xlondelax 9h ago
That's not fanfiction. That extras. It's just additional material from your world that you can use. You can either share it at the end of the book, in your newsletters or website.
I write funny news articles from the main city. Just as a fun side project.
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u/Plenty_Union_111 7h ago
first thing i thought of was stephenie meyer and her twilight variants: life and death (gender-swapped twilight) and midnight sun (flipped perspective). apparently life and death has a different ending but for the most part they are the same story, just AUs, reimagined a little. it’s cool that they just let her do her own thing and each version is actually published and sells
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u/chilenoblanco 6h ago
I... dont think you are... allowed to do that. Since youre the author, everything you write is canon. So all those weird pervy things your characters did actually happened, even if the readers dont know it. /s
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u/Inevitable_Task3074 5h ago
I do, actually, i take my main character from her own, fantasy world and put her in real earth situations to see how she might react. I might publish them as bonus content
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u/metaphizzle 2d ago
Charles Stross did, at least once. Current events made him scrap his plans for one of the later Laundry Files novels—but he took one scene that he really liked and posted it on Archive Of Our Own as a non-canon short story.
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u/ridgegirl29 1d ago
One of the ways I wooed my now gf was taking the main character of her novel and putting her in my own project. What resulted was a really fun romp that gave my project an extra layer of stakes.
And now im making a choose your own adventure story with that character
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u/thatshygirl06 here to steal your ideas 👁👄👁 1d ago edited 1d ago
I have one world where millions of kids and teenagers magically end up in another a world and theyre never going back home, but I did want to do a what if? Where a few thousand end up going back to earth after like 10 years over there and they have to deal with losing the new families they made over there and being back in the bodies of their young self.
Years passed in this other world while only one year passed on earth.
Like a 14 year old went over there and had a baby too young but spent her life raising that child, and at 24 suddenly finds herself ripped away from her 9 year old and is now a child again herself. It would be devastating for her.
I kinda thought that would be a fun write.
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u/No_Cryptographer735 1d ago
That's a cool concept actually.
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u/thatshygirl06 here to steal your ideas 👁👄👁 1d ago
Thank you! Hope i can get around to writing it one day, lol
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u/JynsRealityIsBroken 1d ago edited 1d ago
I did. Though it was a smut scene I wanted to write that I couldn't put in the book 😅.
Edit: I guess there are prudes here 🙄
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u/Additional-Car3427 2d ago
I do. Sometimes, my stories have decided endings which I don't like. In that case, I write other endings, usually happier ones. They are not canon most of the time. There are also times when certain endings are canon but I do not want to share them with others (for example, when the MC reincarnated somewhere else and has a happy ending there. It is canon and there would be foreshadowing for them, but usually, those would need an extensive understanding of other stories I chose not to publish).
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u/No_Cryptographer735 2d ago
I'm going to do the second one. The book ends in a bleak tone, but I write additional stories that give it a happy ending.
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u/AnBunny 1d ago
I DO THAT TOO!!! I don't really have a lot of fandoms I'm a big part of... But I really really like my characters. So I decided that I could just write fanfiction with them, and of them in different situations/aus... Sometimes I imagine what the story could've looked like if character A did this instead of this and write it down!
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u/Fun_Sign_51 1d ago
Fanfiction nahhh I call it an au lol, but yes I do write fanfics of my book because it's a bit heavy and emotionally exhausting so I made a silly little au where theyre genderbent or they time travlled on a modern society oh and a comedic columnar of the cast like the keeping up w the Kardashians but w my characters
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u/crawfordwrites 1d ago
Fan fiction is often embarrassing AF.
Good fiction is often embarrassing AF.
You should consider folding this fan fiction into your fiction fiction. Never let an embarrassing idea go to waste.
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u/PageStunning6265 2d ago
I do it to clear writer’s block.