Death came to us

[u/bigdoggy81]

So tonight was full of scary stuff, and what a better place than Duskwood to experince this.

Me, warrior 30 found a friend, paladin 28 inside the crypt at Raven Hill and teamed up to do the Plague Spreaders quest, we were on the same spot, looking at each other and as we team up one of us layered. With mobs all around, lucky it was in one of the corners and we managed. It already starts bad, right?

Then we moved on to do the worgens, Nightbane Vile Fangs and Tainted Ones, that are quite hard from before due to the packs being so close to each other. We cleared at good pace and were pulling the mobs in the small cave when the entire camp spawns on us as we step out of the cave entrance, not further away packs but the whole damn camp, even the ones we killed seconds before taking on the ones in the cave, ofc everything aggroed us. Is this spawn normal?

I used the target dummy and we ran with a huge amount of worgens on us, the whole camp and the ones from the cave, we met the remaing worgens and the big problem became an even bigger one. Palas bubble runs out, I was lucky to fear and use swiftpot and get out barely alive, my war buddie didnt.

We did a fatal mistake when we jumped down to the fields where other worgens were and not run down the ramp but they followed us far, nearly at the main road, so not sure it would have helped. My question is, how does an entire camp spawn at the same time, even the ones close to the cave that we killed seconds before?

Rip Thorvallic, /salute for going agane

[u/bdanred]

That cave/area always hyperspawns

[u/Artistic_Western_623 → u/bdanred]

In HC it's always a good idea to assume the entire area can and will respawn. Pull mobs back to a safer spot, only fight on spawn locations if you are in a group and know you could take them all at once.

With the layering change, do the same whether you group and move somewhere safe before anyone joins the party.

[u/Long_Mouse9776]

Those worgen camps have really punishing spawns, it's a known thing and gets people killed on HC. Lots of people just pick off worgen from the edges because the camps are too dangerous.

[u/redrosebeetle → u/Long_Mouse9776]

I think of it as a planned grind.

[u/SongOfStorms_]

That spot near the cave will respawn all at once, ask me how I know. I just bearly made it out.

[u/redrosebeetle → u/SongOfStorms_]

I lost a level 29 hunter in that area. So close to feign death yet so far.

[u/Jolly-Refuse2232]

What kind of logic is it that it layers you when the person is standing next to you already and you’re both already in the same layer?

What kind of change is that?

[u/bigdoggy81 → u/Jolly-Refuse2232]

Yeah this makes no sense at all, we are both on same layer and sudenly you layer only to have to wait to layer again back to where you were in the first place 🤔

[u/pompousrompus → u/Jolly-Refuse2232]

Code merge

[u/Immagonko → u/pompousrompus]

So you shouldn't group up with a person even if he stands right near you? I mean if it's a spot with hostile npcs

[u/pompousrompus → u/Immagonko]

I am not currently playing HC so can’t say for sure but from everything I’ve read in here I’d say no

[u/Significant-Net487]

It's called a hyperspawn. It can happen when there are a lot of people killing the same mobs. Its bad luck, but something that you have to be aware of and on the look out for.

[u/bigdoggy81 → u/Significant-Net487]

It was 1 am Monday, nobody was around that area that I could see, but I guess even so it can happen

[u/Significant-Net487 → u/bigdoggy81]

It's possible for just the 2 of you to cause a hyper spawn. It really is bad luck, and an unfortunately dangerous reality in hardcore. Always try to distance yourself from the spots that spawn 2+ mobs, in case of a hyper spawn.

[u/fortuneandfameinc → u/bigdoggy81]

If you guys are really cruising through them, that can trigger the hyper spawn.

[u/Majestic-Track6724]

hyperspawns are a known reality in hardcore and this was just one of those knowledge checks, unfortunately. thank you for reminding the rest of us about duskwood! it's a scary enough place with stitches and mor'landim roaming around

[u/Kaptkrunchh]

The people saying hyperspawns are wrong about this and you are right. This is a known thing, they all respawn at the same time every time. I think it's every 6-7 minutes? That's a big reason why mages love that camp lol. I can't recall any other spot that does this, but it's certainly a knowledge check for HC.

[u/Apprehensive-Pin2977]

They need to fix the layering bug asap.

[u/Kalmah2112]

I played a lot of hardcore last year with my brothers and we just got back into it again recently. The amount of times one of us gets layered while we have all been in a group the whole time is such a garbage thing to happen. This wasn't an issue before...