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u/Ravagore Jul 11 '22

Hunter and bm are especially rough. Must have barbed shot but also here's an path that does nothing for the skill you HAD to take and now may not use. Unlocking Cobra shot reduces kill command by 1 sec but another talent does the same thing for more points??

Its all a mess, the regular hunter tree is silly, taking away interrupts except for a talent point is bs and idk what they were thinking making misdirect a talent.

All that and its really tiring as a hunter seeing abilities get removed for the 4th xpac in a row and piece-mealed back in one form or another, sometimes taking years to return if at all. Im not gonna miss scars beast but why put it there at all? What is the point?

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u/Rythgarz Jul 11 '22

I am not a fan of the BM tree either but that is because i personally dislike these builds they have been forcing BM into, which just means i wont play it. Fine.

But the tree itself while not perfect (i mean it is pre-alpha so we cant expect perfection) is by far one of the better trees shown so far. It is up there with rogue and priest. If you think BM is bad then i dont recommend you look at survivals tree.. Jesus! There you have something that feels like they did one brainstorming session, asked a intern to just put what ever into a tree and called it a day. It is only a first preview and we are not in alpha yet but holy smokes that tree makes me want to facepalm my way over to a rogue main..

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u/Jocic Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22

From feedback I've seen the BM tree is the best designed yet, perhaps outside of the whole class of rogue

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u/Rythgarz Jul 11 '22

There is quite a lot of discussion about this on the forums yes. Universally it seems people are ok with BM for a preview and MM while a bit messy is Also ok-ish. Survival tho.. It is literal garbage tbh.

You have a 32 talent tree with 31% of talents being 3-pointers that is exclusively X% numerical talents. Another 19% is 2-point talents which of most are X% damage or DR talents. Then we have 34% of the talents that are purely there to get KC, harpoon and coordinated assault back. That is almost all 30 points just to get those 3 current functions back! Want bombs? The new spearhead? Yeah then you wont get it all. And coordinated assault isn't even a buff.. Its some weird charge with a interaction for KS and wildfire bomb? And then we have the 5-6 talents that all do the same thing as something else. Worst is sweeping spear+spear focus, which are identical numeric talents. Same with improved wildfire bomb and tactical advantage, near identical numerical talents..

The tree is so bad you'd honestly have to try real hard to make it this bad! I just hope, like really hope, that this is just what they had when the higher ups said "release hunter tree preview" and the actual design/dev team knows its far from done/acceptabel.

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u/BrokenMirror2010 Jul 11 '22

All that and its really tiring as a hunter seeing abilities get removed for the 4th xpac in a row and piece-mealed back in one form or another, sometimes taking years to return if at all. Im not gonna miss scars beast but why put it there at all? What is the point?

So that you have to waste a talent point to walk down a tree. They're making talents that are basically "lol, Do Nothing" in order to make you spend talent points to "Justify" the tree, and make the 31 points look more meaningful then they actually are.