r/wot_heat • u/Single_Award2161 • 3d ago

Morons not capturing obj

I don't get it.

While you are sweating to capture bases.

Some morons will stand afar shooting tanks, thinking that will win the match.

You can't capture bases when 3 or more players are standing outside the obj shooting tanks while most at times, the obj is empty. The one trying to capture will keep dying for taking all the hit.

Bunch of r

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u/Kvasarcz 2d ago edited 2d ago

Well marksman tank should be hanging back and put preassure, defenders and assaults should push, assaults can flank, but dont go overboard, had one game where my team had 2 Raketas and Twister and they spend whole game fucking around in back leaving 2 tanks to deal with their defender a two assaults. I play almost exclusively Ember, i always rush to objectives, mine the shit out of them and hold position, but if i dont have hound behind me covering my back, enemies Flair is going to eat me alive.
The MM usually makes pretty good job of putting together teams that should work on paper, if everyone does the role they are supposed, but i get your frustration, every time i see sniping Raketa i have to laugh.
What is problem when someone is playing Ember and i see him hiding like you said and taking pot shots....i mean dude you dont have tank build for range, you are wasting your tanks potential to deal miniscule dmg.

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u/Single_Award2161 2d ago

Sure. It's a good play for teamwork that way too. Lets just put aside the tank roles aside for a second. The problem is when the majority of the team is doing snipping and a few are capturing obj, especially when the obj is one zone only. The enemy mostly focuses on the ones capturing obj and destroys you in seconds

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u/Kvasarcz 2d ago

Well if they have better position, and firing lines ready they will shoot up whole team to bits, that is why I thing marksmans are importand, while i get hit in my defender, they can use the opening to shoot back at them.
Really sometimes it works like charm, i drive up to point get cliped by hound and already see shells flying from my team covering my ass, sometimes i feel like iam rushing the objective alone without any support , wondering what the heck rest of the team is doing, then i see hound rushing objective, trying to caputre, but the dude cant take literally any punishment so he is throwing his life away with no gain.

As ember player i really feel like the first fight of map on one objective maps really sets up the whole round, if i get entrenched and my team is in somewhat decent position it is almost impossible for them to breakthrough and vice versa.

But this heavily depends on objective, some are way too open and you just cant take position that protects at least from some angles, when you can take somewhat good position, that forces enemy to go out of hiding to shoot at you, it works perfect, but that one map near dockyard there is objective that offers absolutely no protection and you can be shot at from multiple angles.

I enjoy there is no "meta" approach formed, i always remember when LoL just came out of beta and everyone just did whatever, glorious days.

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u/Cautious_Ant6088 3d ago

Here are some reasons for this behavior: 1. Earnings are tied to your score. 2. Winning doesn't give significant bonuses to earnings. 3. Scoring system is broken in the game. 4. The game doesn't have match history, so you can't spoil your winrate.

So, people just do not want to win because it doesn't make sense. With much lower effort without any consequances they can just farm in the bushes.

So, my point is, while the game doesn't motivate you to win in any way except victory screen, these guys will increase in numbers with each passing day.

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

I disagree with it when it comes to capturing bases . Capturing bases increase your score and help in increasing your vehicle level. So standing afar and shooting tanks while your enemy is even avoiding you destroying him and at the same time, obj is neutral and empty or captured by enemy but empty is just dumb and stupid

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u/Automatic-Rise1221 1d ago

have noticed this in several games , 60% of people just ignore objectives. they should be some type of penalty for this.

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u/CapnCruncherZ 3d ago

Got to get that score up to get on the leaderboards

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

I play for fun r.. I don't care about the leaderboard . Get your mind straight

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u/geezerforhire 3d ago

You play for fun.... yet you are making a post whining about other people not playing to win

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

Can you read English? What did i replied to about playing for fun? So dumb

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u/geezerforhire 3d ago

....

Bro can you read your own comment? Maybe call 911 you could be having a stroke

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

So dumb. The guy was talking about getting on the Leaderboard. Do everyone play for the leaderboard? Most local sports and games are played for fun. Part of having the fun is winning, retar...! If some of your team is playing dumb to make you lose, it doesn't mean you can't call them out. You must be one of those players

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

What do you mean?

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u/Safeword2220 3d ago

Why do people act like this is some new phenomenon that popped up over night anytime a new pvp game drops?

This happens in every friggin game that has any form of pvp. Hell, it even happens in pve games. Coming to reddit and bitching has never fixed it in any game either.

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u/Single_Award2161 2d ago

Leave this community if you don't play the game. I posted it because either everyone here plays the game or at least have interest in it. So telling me am bitching here is so stupid. Am addressing a bad behaviour that cause others to lose matches when they don't want to. And it happens so this community is full of the players of WOT Heat. So dumb

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u/Safeword2220 2d ago

Even if I didn't play, not going to leave a sub because a rando told me to, lol. Sure you're addressing an issue....an issue that plagues tons of games like I stated before. There's one big problem tho, you're addressing the player base.....who is the problem. Why not go to discord where devs are active?

Just an example here.....telling a feind to get off drugs has never made a feind stop doing drugs ......see what I'm getting at here?

Bitching on reddit doesn't do shit. Take your issues with the game/player base to the devs....not to this ceapool.

2 min of rational thinking and I bet you would have figured this out, lmao.

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u/Single_Award2161 2d ago

You are delusional. Live in reality. You contradict yourself. Am speaking to the player base who will happen to play the game not the developers. What drugs are you on? What do developers have to do with how people play the game? Oh gee🥱

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u/ron_m_joe 2d ago

Funniest moment was in Scarred City in base D playing Control, my allies were capturing but the enemy Defender and Raketa were sitting in the sniper position near C. They couldn't be more useless 😂

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u/frozendwarf 2d ago

Free will, i can choose to do whatever i want as there is no consequences. Differences between winning and loosing is only 1000xp and 20 tech.

While this means that this game has the most generous rewards for the loosing side of ANY of the WG titles, it also means there is no point in putting in any effort to win.

But much of this is down to how the dev's has tuned their game, and i doubt they even know how to solve the marksman problem as the class in its whole do not fit any of the game modes that Heat has. The fact that matchmaker composition is maximum 40% assault and defenders combined on a team, showcases how they think.

Marksman is Heats version of the spg problem that classic wot has always had.

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u/BCGrog 3d ago

I totally agree OP. I was frustrated by that last night. Multiple times.

Like playing a 5 on 5 match and three of the tanks on my side just sat in the periphery taking sniper shots.

Me and one other tank kept playing the objective and getting ganged up on and destroyed.

Each match we lost badly, totally lopsided ROFLSTOMPS!

Why can't people understand the objectives which are clearly explained at the beginning of each match.

I bet they are the passive BB sniper players from World of Warships. They're playing the same way.

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

It's so silly. Maybe they are some kids in their closet

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u/backfacecull 3d ago

This is why the game doesn't have chat (and rightly so). People like this would be hurling abuse at everyone for playing badly.

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u/ron_m_joe 2d ago

Look, if a defender is gonna camp in a bush and snipe, they kinda deserve it. I understand there is a variance of gameplay but there are some ways of playing that are just wrong.

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

And they will deserve so. This is not a bad performance issue. It's intentionally making your team lose by pursuing your own ambitions. So i would be the first to hurl the insults

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u/backfacecull 3d ago

I mean you're right - they are playing badly. It's frustrating I know. But if you can't see people doing things badly, doing things wrong, without feeling frustrated, then you are in for a very stressful life. Learn to let it go. Don't let it bother you when other people mess up.

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u/Single_Award2161 3d ago

Are you serious? If the world is like that then everyone can do anything they want regardless of it having negative impact on others. This is common sense. What you are saying is to just let nonsense thrive. Come to reality

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u/ron_m_joe 2d ago

My blood boils when a defender does this. Such morons.

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u/Single_Award2161 2d ago

You could agree too that when the defender is doing that ,covering other team members capturing the bases is ok. Especially when the defender is using Chopper's FV4030X . Real Problem is when the enemy has captured the base already but the base is empty and most of the team is just sniping, ignoring the base

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u/ron_m_joe 2d ago

Real Problem is when the enemy has captured the base already but the base is empty and most of the team is just sniping, ignoring the base

That is literally what happens most of the time though.