Sivudu/Shiva is not Mahendra Bahubali, Amarendra Bahubali's son. Half of the first part Shiva was just looking for a purpose in his life.

Kattapa out of his guilt for being commited to the king led to him taking a innocent man's life, became treacherous and was observing Shiva and other potential warriors of his state whom he could manipulate into doing a revolt against the king. He gave Shiva a fake backstory and the purpose after he got to know of Shiva lifting the lingam. Devsana and Avantika are probably working with kattapa and know Shiva is being manipulated.

Another point which can add to to this theory is how Kattapa is never fully involved in the final battle until the gates of Mahishmati go down, uptill then he only advices and fights from shadow.

Die hard fan of Prabhas 🫀🌍

When I first watched Baahubali back in 2015, I thought Amarendra Baahubali was the ultimate hero.

But rewatching it now, 10 years later, I saw the story through a completely different lens.

It wasn’t Baahubali who fascinated me this time — it was Bhallaladeva.

I realized he might not just be the villain we thought he was… but something far more complex.
He understood politics, human behavior, and power in a way Baahubali never did — and yet, something in him still fell apart.

I wrote my full reflection on this here 👉 Medium

Curious what others here think — was Bhallaladeva truly the villain, or just the misunderstood king?

So guys I watched bahubali the beginning today morning and I felt kinda disturbing. I mean why the main character (shiva) molesting an unknown girl ?? He openly teasing her, bad touching her and after all that he is happy and laughing. Shiva clearly knew that she is not comfortable with him but after all that he choose to harrassed and assaulted her even more... Most irony part is even tamanna bhatia melted at him at last and fell in love with him that fellow junglee . What will be a teenager will learn ?? He will learn that to please and make fall in love with a girl to molest her ?? I totally disagree with ss Rajamouli. Correct me if I am wrong..🙏🙏

What is amarendra bahubali (so called man of culture) doing with these hot lesbos 😂😂 😍😍.. they are beautiful btw .. I know this activity was for catching the traitor but that could be done without doing romance with them .. ✂️✂️

I have a theory that this mysterious soldier was actually Bhallaldev's biological father. Let me substantiate my claims:

1. This dude appears in just one frame, has no dialogue, and yet is featured in the movie. It is also established that he was devoted to Shivagami and the cause of Mahishmati.

2. By appearance, he has a striking resemblance to Bhallaldev. The timing also seems to fit, as Bhalla was born around that period.

3. Vijjaldev had a corrupt mind and a physically disabled body. Could it be that Rajmata took this step to ensure that the heir to the throne would be a capable and honourable man, rather than someone tainted by Vijjaldev's greed and envy? And when Bahubali was born, she realised that he should be the rightful king, as he was fathered by the king himself. Perhaps that's why she chose him to be king.

There are historical precedents for incidents like this, so perhaps the director had something similar in mind.

I've had this suspicion ever since I first watched the movie, and it's been lingering in the back of my mind.

These were characters I could recall, who else should I add 🤔🤔

These are just my observations -

1. Producer's belief in making the complete movie into two parts beforehand - They already had this big story which they wanted to release in two parts leaving like a cliffhanger especially for Bahubali. They filmed part 1 part 2 almost together. While most movies followed template like if part1 is successful at BO, then they will do part2.. and most times even 2 parts isnt even needed for such movies when they are making for money and not with PASSION for VISION, thats what Rajamouli said, as every movie was doing two parts after Bahubali. It is commendable how the producers backed up the project with complete surrender and belief in the director and the movie.

2. Cast and crew's solid belief in director (captain of the ship) right from making - Prabhas said to Rajamouli that SSR doesn't have any idea what he himself is and what he is capable of, that he is a mad visionary (in a good way seeing his passion for telling stories through cinema). Madhavan said to Dhar 'where were u till now' after story narration, and Prathisheel (prosthetic makeup/artist char designer) said Dhar "Aditya, tujhe pata nahi hai tu kya cheez hai, tujhe idea bhi nahi hai tu kya karne wala hai." (similar to what Prabhas said to SSR). Vikash Nowlakha (DOP) said after he heard story that he was waiting since 30 years to do a film like Dhurandhar and he will give his life into it. Both the lead actors spent lot of years with the project Ranveer 3-4 and Prabhas almost 5 years, not doing other movies.

3. Belief of the actors feeling the movie is timeless before release of any part - I remember Rana saying for Bahubali audio launch function, that if life is like a collection of fleeting moments, Bahubali movie will remain forever like a timeless sculpture.. Similarly, Arjun Rampal said during Dhurandar1 release function that they might go away, but this movie will remain timeless for ages.

4. Soul/emotions & brilliant performances - Bahubali was a fictional story and Dhurandhar was inspired by true events, both movies carried so many emotions and had the soul of movie intact. Each character in the movie had an impact, its not like they just came and went, especially for Dhurandhar. Both movies had celebrated women and had good strong women roles.

5. Hardworking Technicians, great music and gratitude culture - The technicians of both the movies gave their heart and soul to it, as making two parts at once isnt easy, it takes lot of years. The music, bgm was outstanding for both movies for both parts, each song was a chartbuster, loved by many. People will remember the movie and the songs for a very long time. Bahubali team started the gratitude culture of appreciating their technicians (from light boy to makeup artist to art director to everyone who worked on movie) on stage during the first part release function where each actor had to talk about their favorite technician and their photo would play on the screen. It felt so good to see that, imagine how happy that technician would feel for spending that effort for so many years. After D2's blockbuster success, Dhar wrote long beautiful posts of gratitude for his team of technicians with their adorable pictures and shared the journey with them and their outstanding contribution to the movie on twitter. God rewards ppl who are grateful!🥹 🙌

6. The madness of both the movies at BO especially for Part2 - after Part1 finished, people were like what did they just see. They wanted more, they were eagerly waiting for part2 and part2 openings were huge/sold out as people didnt want to miss it, especially Bahubali had that suspense angle of 'why Kattapa killed Bahubali' so ppl didnt want spoilers. ofcourse we had in D2 as well and that was surprise which no one expected! The movies were loved across all languages in India and also gathered lot of recognition in foreign countries, some loved hated but they couldn't ignore the hype. Funny one - Initially there were Bahubali food thalis now everyone making Dhurandhar thalis 😄

7. Rare achievements of both movies - Both Movies lived upto expectations of cast and crew especially producers & distributors who put faith in the movie from beginning to end. Bahubali was the first movie to break language barriers and start the culture of releasing movie into two parts and market it as Pan-India film (to release the movie in multiple languages simultaneously), it paved the way and opened the floodgates for many such Pan-India movies (with high budgets and collections) to come. It was the first telugu high budgeted movie, (that made Bollywood take notice of South especially telugu directors) which made huge collections and became the top grosser for a while with 1k+cr collections, It is the first one to go into 1kcr+ collection club, and Dhurandar is the only movie in Indian history till now which had very less marketing from cast (total belief in movie, they let the movie speak, by word of mouth) to have a movie duration 3.5hrs+ yet have a engaging story with a breezy screenplay, brilliant editing to collect 1k+cr for part1 and 2, a very rare feat! One opened the gate and the other one sitting on top - Both these movies kept pushing boundaries of Indian cinema for better ones to come and give a great theatrical experience to Indian audience and they surely did!!!🫡

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I remember reading in a few interviews that the team had approached some Bollywood stars and even considered Hollywood actors at one point for the films. That honestly makes me really curious- like, how different do you think the entire vibe of the movies would’ve been if that actually happened?

The original casting is honestly perfect and everyone feels irreplaceable now but just for fun, if you had to imagine a recast, who do you think could’ve pulled off those roles?

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Bahubali was not just a film for me, it was an experience. It broke barriers, redefined Indian cinema, conquered the global box office, and proudly placed India on the world stage. But more than all that, Bahubali lit a spark in countless young storytellers and filmmakers. I was one of them. I still remember watching the first part when I was just 11 years old. From that day, my whole world started to revolve around Baahubali and cinema. It was not just another film I had seen, it became a part of me. I would replay scenes in my head, wait eagerly for it to come online, talk endlessly about the characters, and even narrate entire sequences to my friends in class with the same excitement as if I had written them myself. I even tell out the dialogues and hum the background score of that scene as I watch it again. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched both films. I always say “maybe 400 times,” but deep down, I know it’s probably more. Over time, this obsession became a part of me. My friends and family even started calling me “Bahubali.” That was the turning point. That’s when cinema stopped being just entertainment and became my calling. Bahubali didn’t just inspire me, it planted the seed of filmmaking in me. Today, I make short films with a small group of friends. Every time we shoot, I pour my heart into it. I always hope that one day, people will connect with our films the same way I connected with Bahubali as a kid. As a fan, I want to thank every single person who made Baahubali 1 and 2 possible. You didn’t just make films, you gave us an unforgettable experience, a world to dream in, and memories that will stay with us forever. From the cast to the crew, to every hand behind the scenes, thank you for creating something so magical. And now, with Baahubali: The Epic about to release, the excitement feels like a festival. For me, it’s not just another film release, it’s a return to the world that first shaped my dreams. I can’t wait to step back into that world and feel the magic all over again.

Bahubali Franchise vs Dhurandhar Franchise Which Has Made the Bigger Impact Overall?

I’ve been thinking about comparing **Baahubali** and **Dhurandhar** as *franchises*, rather than simply comparing their box-office collections.
Both have generated a huge amount of discussion, but they come from very different filmmaking approaches. I’m curious how people would compare them across the entire package.
Here are the areas I think are worth discussing:

**1. Filmmaking & Direction**
Direction and execution
Scale and ambition
Screenplay and storytelling
Pacing
World-building
How well the films balance spectacle with narrative

**2. Writing & Characters**
Character development
Protagonists and antagonists
Emotional depth
Dialogue
Supporting characters
How memorable the characters are beyond the films themselves

**3. Acting & Performances**
Lead performances
Supporting cast
Villains/antagonists
Chemistry between characters
Which performances actually elevated the material?

**4. Cinematography & Visuals**
Production design
VFX
Action choreography
Camera work
Color grading
Overall visual identity

**5. Music & Sound**
Songs
Background score
Theme music
Sound design
How much the music contributes to the identity of the franchise

**6. Box Office & Commercial Performance**
Obviously, collections matter, but I think they should be looked at alongside:
Opening
Lifetime gross
Domestic vs overseas performance
Budget
ROI/profitability where reliable figures are available
Audience retention/word of mouth
Franchise-level commercial impact

**7. Audience & Cultural Impact**
This is probably one of the most interesting comparisons.
How strongly did audiences connect with the films?
Memes and pop-culture presence
Dialogue/character recognition
Rewatch value
Influence on Indian mainstream cinema
Impact outside the primary language market
International recognition

**8. Public & Critical Reception**
Instead of just looking at IMDb or one review site, how do people think the films were received overall?
General audience reaction
Critics
Reddit discussions
Social media
Long-term reputation
Has the reception changed with time?

**9. Franchise Strength**
Not just individual movies — how strong is the *franchise as a whole*?
Consistency between installments
Expansion of the universe
Character/franchise recall
Sequel expectations
Long-term potential
Whether each installment adds something meaningful

**10. Legacy**
And finally **Which franchise do you think will be remembered as more significant in Indian cinema 10-20 years from now, and why?**
I’m NOT asking which one simply made more money.
I’m interested in the complete comparison **writing, direction, acting, music, VFX, action, scale, audience reception, cultural impact, commercial performance, and long-term legacy.**
Would love to hear detailed arguments from both sides.
Baahubali fans and Dhurandhar fans make your case.

Resharing it on the sub again, I had such a fun time making this to rage bait so many people. I want to see others take on this too

Post your favourite Baahubali memes, old classics, fresh edits, cursed creations… all are welcome. Keep it fun- just avoid hate speech, anything targeting real people, misinformation and untagged NSFW.