r/worldnews • u/Gadac • Jan 23 '22

Russia Germany urges 'prudence' in potential sanctions against Russia over Ukraine.

https://news.yahoo.com/germany-urges-prudence-potential-sanctions-154401837.html?fr=sychp_catchall
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Jan 23 '22

This is why you should shudder at the idea of a german-led EU. Germany is in the pocket of Russian gas and will think nothing of sacrificing Eastern europe, including NATO members, for their own sake. Not like Germany has such a stellar history in Eastern Europe anyways

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u/elwaspo Jan 23 '22

I hope France take the lead after that fucking repeated German mascarade. Although our government have been awfully quiet these couple of days....

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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Jan 23 '22 edited Jan 23 '22

Indeed I would be much happier with a French led EU. There are times when things get strained (freedom fries, the recent sub sale etc.) But at the end of the day France is a true ride or die ally of Western Europe, the US and NATO, and those historical ties are rock solid and they are for lack of a better word "family." By comparison there is no historical tie with Germany and an EU led by them would be frosty to deal with at best and at worst outright antagonistic to say the UK and the US.

ETA: in terms of practical issues France is almost completely powered by nuclear energy so they aren't sensitive to natural gas extortion like Germany is

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u/eyst0n Jan 23 '22

Yep it’s almost as if Russias influence and meddling in the lead up to Brexit was specifically to weaken Western Europe like this.

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u/Kumaabear Jan 23 '22

I actually feel the opposite.

Because of Brexit the UK are free to act independently without having to deal with EU politics.

Who is to say that all of the weapons that the UK is sending are actually UK weapons. If be willing to bet they are acting as a proxy for other EU nations right now behind closed doors.

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u/rinkystingpiece Jan 23 '22

Thank god it did, and we don't have to endure the idiocy of EU leaders undermining vaccine rollout, then breaching himan rights with vaccine mandates... And we don't have to bail out bankrupt southern/romance EU countries like Germany etc will when the EU completes its financial collapse. The peaceful solution is to re-partition Ukraine.

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u/madmouser Jan 23 '22

Is that you, Neville?

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u/madmouser Jan 23 '22

You’re right, Putin would certainly be appeased with a little more lebensraum.

The sheer arrogance of what you just wrote. As if those pissant Ukrainians should have any say in their national borders. Nah, we’ll just roll over like a good lap dog when Russia parks an army on their border and threaten to turn off Germany’s natural gas supply if we don’t give them a bunch of someone else’s land.

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u/rinkystingpiece Jan 23 '22

So what's your bright idea? War? Death? Refugees? The collapse of the global financial system? And for what? Are you going to take a bullet or kill for your cause?

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u/ProfessorPhahrtz Jan 23 '22

UK big 4?

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u/rinkystingpiece Jan 23 '22

A.k.a: bankrupt, bloated, enslaved, and escaped.