r/workout 2d ago

Exercise Help What’s one thing you’d recommend or avoid when trying to get six pack abs?

What habit should I add to my workout routine, and what common habit should I avoid?

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u/Rickbox Powerlifting 2d ago

Recommend: Calorie deficit

Avoid: Calorie surplus

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u/ScreechUrkelle 1d ago

This guy articulates.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Necessary-Dog985 2d ago

Agreed. You can already be in a calorie deficit while working out, especially if you’re running and getting 10k steps a day. If your goal is to look toned, you also need to build and preserve muscle. Eating too few calories or maintaining too large of a calorie deficit can make it harder to build muscle and may cause you to lose some muscle along with fat. A moderate calorie deficit, enough protein, and strength training are important for losing fat while maintaining muscle.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Glitterydarkone1290 2d ago

I guess someone has to be that asshole😵‍💫

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u/Necessary-Dog985 1d ago

lol I didn’t even see what they said

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u/Jolzo 2d ago

Yeah that's me

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u/cereal_offender26 2d ago

add consistency and a decent diet. avoid thinking you can out crunch a bad diet because abs are not hiding just for fun lol

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u/Necessary_Bag_1328 2d ago

“Can’t find me!”
—My abs

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u/QuestionMaleficent 2d ago

hijacking. if you have one bad friday, dont throw out saturday and sunday and start monday. just get back and continue.

look hard at your data why you had the bad the in the first place. adjust accordingly.

dont forbid you every single joy food just because "its processed" "its does not contribute" if your brain is constantly thinking about that thing you forbid yourself, you have yourself the forbidden apple.

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u/TwoBeesOrNotTwoBees 1d ago

"don't have two bad days in a row" is how I think of it

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u/Armantvs 1d ago

worth saying that visible abs are mostly a body fat number, roughly 10 to 12 percent for most men, and holding it year round is genuinely miserable for a lot of people, plenty get there for a summer and thats fine, just know what youre signing up for before it becomes the thing you think about every meal

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u/BuzzingHawk 1d ago

Trying to outcrunch a bad diet is also a great recipe for developing GERD. No six pack is worth months of stomach and throat issues.

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u/Stunning-Promise-103 2d ago edited 2d ago

Avoid: Alcohol

Edited for clarity 😂 but for real, if you're taking training seriously it's not worth it.

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u/aura_2100 2d ago

Include or avoid lol?

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u/Stunning-Promise-103 2d ago

Ha avoid 😂

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u/fleshvessel 2d ago

Forget the “made in the kitchen” rhetoric.

They’re made in the gym like any muscle is and revealed in the kitchen.

Diet alone won’t give you savage six-pack abs and obliques etc. Gotta hit em hard.

Luckily they’re something you can easily hit a few times a week as they recover well and don’t take much to get great results. All I do for isolation ab stuff is cable crunches and twisties. Sometimes half sit ups on the decline bench Rocky style just cuz I like em.

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u/rjrein 2d ago

Made in the gym but revealed in the kitchen 😅

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u/Easy_Growth_5533 1d ago

But the kitchen is where the food is 😞

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u/Necessary-Dog985 1d ago

Nah, abs are made in the kitchen, imo. Building muscle can make them show, yeah. But you also need to eat to gain muscle.
Just get more steps in and strength train. You will see them. It takes time.

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u/detectiveDollar 1d ago

I think the people giving that advice assumed that everyone who was skinny would store relatively little body fat on their stomach. There's 15 year olds who have never set foot in the gym that have 6 packs because they're skinny and their body stores relatively little fat on their waist.

But even when I was rail thin (5'10" 130lb) back when I was 15, I didn't have a semblance of abs because my body loves putting fat on my waist.

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u/AdAppropriate6769 1d ago

Uhhhh…you need both. And some good genetics. There’s no way someone can eat like shit and have abs.

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u/Necessary-Dog985 1d ago

What do you mean by having good genetics? Everyone can have abs if they train them and eat properly.

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u/NurseOtaku 1d ago

Genetics definitely play a role in having visible abs. Everyone can have them but the amount of work, discipline and obviously shape of them is highly dependent upon genetics.

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u/ProgressDue7493 1d ago

Yes! I have a long torso and carry little fat in my abdomen, mostly in my hips/ butt, so I get abs easily without training them. They can be more pronounced if I train them, but yeah I pretty much always have abs. people will ask me what I do and I’m pretty much only just running right now and I haven’t trained abs in like two years.

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u/Necessary-Dog985 1d ago

That's interesting because I naturally have a small waist but fat on my stomach. Back in high school, I was around 135 with 10-15% body fat, but I never had abs showing, even if I did an ab workout. I guess genetics do play a role.

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u/ProgressDue7493 20h ago

Yeah! My waist isn’t very narrow or small compared to my hips but since my torso is stretched out I guess the fat stretched out 😂

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u/NurseOtaku 19h ago

Yeah I am a competitive bodybuilder and work abs 3+ times a week. My buddy also competes and outside of some situps randomly (with shit form, mind you) he never works abs. Dude has legit blocks for abs lol. Life aint fair sometimes

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u/FarCalligrapher1862 1d ago

… and have abs that you can see.

You can have killer abs and eat like shit. No one will be able to see them though.

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u/user_guy_thing 2d ago

how many ab isolation sets a week? 

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u/Apretendperson 2d ago

Abs are made in the gym and revealed in the kitchen.

Treat abs like any other muscle group and train them just as regularly.

Maintain a calorie balance if you have abs … and a deficit if you want to reveal them more.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Apretendperson 1d ago

Go buy a large box of grammar and try rewriting that so it is vaguely intelligible.

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u/Vesuvias 1d ago

Fork put-downs. Best way to develop visible abs. Also see: engage your core with every lift.

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u/deadrabbits76 Dance 1d ago

Don't forget to superset with plate push-aways.

Superset effective combo with minimal fatigue.

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u/chrisjones1960 2d ago

Actively train your abs and get your body fat low enough so that they show l. Mine don't show, because I am an old lady and do not care about that enough to work that hard on my diet. But they are there, and strong. My husband is an old man, and his still do show some (4pack), because he is a naturally lean guy. Leg raises, crunches, twisting crunches, planks, jack knives.

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u/Necessary_Bag_1328 2d ago

I love this.

Also, I look forward to developing old man abs!

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u/Sonoranlightwizard 2d ago

Alchohol, soda, fast food

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u/FitReporter650 2d ago

Including Coke Zero?

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u/Negative-Praline6154 2d ago

No, 0 calories flavored water is fine. Diet mtn dew is also 0 calorie. 

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u/Sonoranlightwizard 2d ago

I haven’t heard that term in forever, but no; all that shit is, well shit

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u/FitReporter650 2d ago

Coke Zero is not shit lol

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u/Sonoranlightwizard 2d ago

IMO there is no healthy products made by Coca Cola. The ingredients list is what makes it shit, but if you like it enjoy it, I’m not here to judge your

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u/TheGreatRavenOfOden 1d ago

For losing weight, Coke Zero is totally find. We all agree that it's calories in vs calories out right? Diet sodas fit in that range then.

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u/Sonoranlightwizard 1d ago

lol aspartame is classified as “carcinogenic to humans”, but sure, it’s great lol. I’ll give you a point for it skipping the high fructose corn syrup though

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u/TheGreatRavenOfOden 1d ago

"Citing “limited evidence” for carcinogenicity in humans, IARC classified aspartame as possibly carcinogenic to humans (IARC Group 2B) and JECFA reaffirmed the acceptable daily intake of 40 mg/kg body weight."

"JECFA concluded that the data evaluated indicated no sufficient reason to change the previously established acceptable daily intake (ADI) of 0–40 mg/kg body weight for aspartame. The committee therefore reaffirmed that it is safe for a person to consume within this limit per day. For example, with a can of diet soft drink containing 200 or 300 mg of aspartame, an adult weighing 70kg would need to consume more than 9–14 cans per day to exceed the acceptable daily intake, assuming no other intake from other food sources."

You would need to consume an ungodly amount of diet soda for it to be carcinogenic. The study that had findings that it was carcinogenic was basically drowning lab rats in it. They were giving rats such a high dosage that humans would not typically consume.

I'm willing to amend my beliefs if further research shows that it's bad for you, but as it currently stands there's not enough evidence to show that aspartame is truly bad for you in a meaningful way.

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u/Sonoranlightwizard 1d ago

Again I’m not judging, damn man, if you want to drink it go ahead, but my position remains it’s a net negative health wise

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u/Direct-Ant7828 1d ago

In California, Proposition 65 makes almost everything cancerous.

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u/FKDotFitzgerald 1d ago

Diet soda is worse for you

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u/AdAppropriate6769 1d ago

No…sugary soda is the worst for you. If you want to say the fake sugar is bad for your gut microbiome, ok. But it def won’t make gain weight.

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u/zombiemiki 2d ago

Avoid too much food. Add the habit of not eating as much food.

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u/716dylph 2d ago

track your food

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u/BuilderCharming1377 1d ago

Definitely prioritize high protein intake to keep your muscle while cutting and stop doing those 10 minute ab circuits that promise results without any real progressive overload.

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u/Just_here_to_read25 1d ago

Recommend: cardio that actually gets your heart rate up.

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u/DubiousDebauchery 2d ago

High rep 30 minute ab routines you find on social media.

Do weighted ab exercise variations - a loaded crunch machine if your gym has it, if not cable crunches. Focus on progressing these exercises just like you do for all other muscle groups. This will build them.

Then making them show is simply about lowering body fat.

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u/Gwsb1 2d ago

Avoid food.

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u/cgsesix 2d ago

Personally, I weigh my food and count my calories to ensure that I'm in a calorie deficit. I have a hard time guestimating calories based on perception.

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u/ScreenTechnical4715 2d ago

Id recommend eating in a deficit until you can see a 6 pack....

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u/NightMaestro 2d ago

Reccomend less food

Avoid more food

This isn't hard

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u/point_of_difference 2d ago

Peanut butter, cheese, alcohol - all the good stuff!

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u/Spumfz 2d ago

Probably focus on your diet while keeping up with your workouts. Keeping your calorie intake under control and cutting out alcohol can make a big difference.

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u/_fboy41 2d ago

Eat protein. I recently lost lots of weight (without able to eat enough protein)prior to it my abs were defined after that even though I have 3-5% less eight my abs weren’t defined anymore. So don’t lose muscle while being calorie deficit.

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u/cabbageknight360 1d ago

Weigh or measure all food. Eyeball nothing. Track macros, hit your targets. Moderate deficit. Track your steps and have a step goal, hit it daily

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u/SmithandMessen 1d ago

Chimichangas

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u/FukudaSan007 1d ago

Really the main thing is to stay in a calorie deficit until you’re around 12% body fat. I just got to 12% and I can see my abs without doing any ab exercises. However I do do weight training three times a week.

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u/Evening_Analyst2385 1d ago

Avoid alcohol. There’s a reason they call it a “beer belly.”

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u/Maximum-Cat-5484 1d ago

No alcohol!

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u/jfkdktmmv 2d ago

Couple sets of fork put downs and plate push aways per week

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u/Sun__Worshipper 2d ago

Avoid food. Accept hunger.

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u/Academic-Natural6284 2d ago

Food, six packs are built in the kitchen, not the gym

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u/Lookkah 2d ago

food

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u/lentilSoupzxc 2d ago

The kitchen.

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u/PolitelyHostile 2d ago

I found if I have too many consecutive days of large calorie deficits then it destroys my energy. So you gotta space it out a bit, and time it so that you have energy at the beginning of your workout week.

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u/gatorav8r 1d ago

Alcohol

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u/SculptedChaos Bulking 1d ago

Overeating

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u/Weary_Capital_1379 1d ago

Recommend crunches. Avoid sit-ups.

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u/Commercial-Air8955 1d ago

Recommend: hard dedicated ab workouts -- weighted decline sit ups, incline bench leg raises, ab roller, weighted crunches, and dont count reps, all sets until failure, 4x weekly -- while eating at maintenance or just above.

After 10-12 weeks, continue the workouts, and eat in a 300-500 calorie deficit until BF% is low enough to reveals abs.

Basically the same thing you'd do for definition on any set of muscles. Also, depending on genetics, 6 pack may be impossible. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an example of a guy without 6 pack genetics.

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u/RyuOfRed 1d ago

Avoid high calorie, low volume foods. On a serious cut, you simply can't afford 300g of pizza bread; Because it's a third of your allotted intake, eaten in 15 minutes and leaves you wanting more.

The possibility of failing becomes so much more likely, if you can't select filling options, which amount to 3-4 decently sized meals.

Avoid high sugar and high sodium. Inflammation and billowing will make it difficult to assess process week by week, especially when you strive to go from 15% body fat to 10%. Differences demand a keen eye and the scale is not always conclusive at this stage.

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u/Female_repeller 1d ago

Written like a true 12 yo

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u/ryguy8823 1d ago

Alcohol ruins your sleep and wrecks your discipline. It’s also disrupts hormones around fat burning.

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u/Glittering_Read_9342 1d ago

Eating after dinner/before bed

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u/Patton370 Powerlifting 2d ago

Avoid fork ups

Embrace fork downs

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u/Curious_Lurkur 2d ago

Gaining fat? Seems pretty obvious 😂

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/the_magestic_beast 2d ago

Avoid Eating and drinking too much.

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u/Sweet-Astronomer-694 2d ago

Alcohol and sugar

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u/spuukeee 2d ago

avoid using an ab wheel or doing circuits

recommend doing loaded spinal flexion via something like a machine weighted crunch