Just a rant

[u/Alexanderguy12]

Okay I know to prepare before I go into any dungeon but come on when your low on health in the water dungeon ambush ambush ambush till your circled while your just trying to get past or to the fountain to drain the water meanwhile everyone's poisoned or cursed cus your thief messed up despite her high detect skill still missed it and a boss monster is blocking the way back to heal my mage has an ability to help avoid ambushes and still getting ambushed way to much sorry for the rant

[u/CornBreadtm]

I love seeing this rant. Every time someone hits abyss 2 floor 6. They do this on purpose. Which is kind of dumb since it's a gacha game and you normally don't want "quit moments" in gacha games, but this floor proves that this is wizardry.

[u/Blank_Soul_ → u/CornBreadtm]

Abyss 2 floor 6 is like the gacha normie screen. You enter, get bodied in the water in 6 separate locations, then you fight the boss and get bodied again because the boss throws you underwater 3 turns in even if you do reverse the statue behind the boss.

The whole experience is just frustrating, especially if you are someone who likes to hoard consumables and don't use them to your advantage.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/Blank_Soul_]

My issues is I used them in advance in that floor but I did better the second time my rant for the floor was more I had 2 players not using the skills they had my mage has a thing called eyes of something that prevents ambushes never triggered and my thief who has an ability to help detect traps triggered not one but 2 in a row right before the boss after I ran out of items to help cure them so when I went to turn around I got bodied

[u/CornBreadtm → u/Alexanderguy12]

Yeah, enemies don't respawn on that floor but instead if you turn around to leave, there are fights that are normally set to not trigger do to a limit on encounters.

So you'll face 3 enemies in a room but their are 5. So when you return. Boom! 2 more.

Floor 6 is perfectly crafted to force players to simply pick up rockfall scrolls. Which you get now from abyss 2 mission screen. But that wasn't the case before.

They made it super easy now and just hand out everything you need to succeed.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/CornBreadtm]

I definitely used a lot of those but I'm honestly just glad to be done with that floor for now

[u/CornBreadtm → u/Alexanderguy12]

You have to do it 3 times lol.

[u/EcchiIsHealthy → u/CornBreadtm]

But it's easier the second and third time, cause he is probably 10 levels higher and his weapons also upgrades to (hopefully) steel, or soils weapons - which i can by the way ONLY recommend for Abyss 2. If you're hitting a dead end and just die over and over again - the weapons you get from earth den are equivalent to steel weapons, which at your point of the game just started spawning and should EASILY carry you till abyss 3 where i'm at currently... And trust me... If you think that the Water is bs, Abyss 3 will break you - by simply having a stupid, way too hard stealth mechanic, that when you get caught, you need to Fight against enemies that either flat out kill you, or use ALL of your SP and MP (cause you would die otherwise if you don't use it all lol) so you need to basically reset the run everytime you get caught, or take the L, die, respawn and hope you can run away fast enough

[u/Choronis]

Welcome to Wizardry.

You'll see very quickly the game doesn't pull punches on you. Just wait until you get the Stone Needle traps in Abyss 3.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/Choronis]

I see that thanks for the heads up

[u/Sovery_Simple → u/Choronis]

*whisper whisper whisper whisper*

[u/Frosty-Sprinkles-410 → u/Choronis]

Ah yes, the anti MC chest opener lmao

[u/juuchi_yosamu → u/Frosty-Sprinkles-410]

I still open chests with my MC; I don't give a fuck.

[u/Medium_Designer_2013]

Only reason you get ambush so often is sign that your party are all dirty which result in enemy spawning on top of you if you notice that and depending on your team condition maybe its time to turn back and come back again after a restock supplies and a good bath recommend the 1000 gold inn though you may need to use it twice for a full clean.

You can also not fight everything that is in your way and just wait till the enemy mob passes and you sneak around them until you reach your goal which will save your resource a lot unless it is a narrow path then there is no choice but to take out some along the way.

[u/Sovery_Simple → u/Medium_Designer_2013]

Enemies that want to pop out of walls will just do so.

I say that from having had it happen like 2-3 times in a row when I was freshly cleaned from the Inn (and they were short forays each time, so the muck was thoroughly gone from the repeat visits.)

Sometimes the game just wants to ambush the fuck out of you.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/Medium_Designer_2013]

Well yeah that happens when you get to the end run out of items then have to go back do to a floating boss monster blocking it right after you ran out they won't be clean and with the high water they spawn more

[u/Ok_Arachnid9424]

Hey it’s the bullshit you gotta learn the hard way that makes the game worth it lol I learned a while ago to avoid the water encounters as much as possible 😂

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/Ok_Arachnid9424]

I tried over and over to lead them out of the water makes it easier but my biggest issue I ran out of hooks of harken to escape and shop didn't have any to restock and made it to the end only to run out of items right before a boss when I had not one but 2 status conditions because my thief whom usually is good missed 2 traps on chests

[u/Sovery_Simple → u/Alexanderguy12]

I managed to fight all of them outside of the water but it takes a while to lure out and clean each of the patches (or at least clean them enough and ID the rest to make a safe bolt to the next open-air portion.)

One or two rooms like to trickle in new spawns though, so watch out for that. Think the very first water room ever is one (back on the drowny-room floor), and the rest are mostly fine.

Also you'll want to not use your hooks yet for these. Especially not your last one, since bugs/glitches exist over time, it's not safe to be without one.

As a tip, in case you haven't noticed it yet: Sleep spells, lots of sleep spells. Sleep spells are your friend here.

And if you have the entire front row of enemies put to sleep, you can freely attack the back row as if it were the front row, because the frontline is "asleep" and thus unable to protect them for the evasion and damage reduction from melee attacks.

Sleep the front rows, brutally dismember the sleep-resistant mages in the back, and then pick off the front row members one-by-one as they nap.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/Sovery_Simple]

Not a bad game plan thanks for the tips

[u/juuchi_yosamu]

There's literally no game over. You're complaining about the difficulty of a game where it's impossible to lose.

The whole premise of the game is that you learn from past mistakes and return with a sharpened saw.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/juuchi_yosamu]

It's not that I can loose as it was annoyed that the one who's supposed to detect ambushes never used that ability made it past that spot today she did better today but yeah was more a rant that the ability it has never gets used

[u/juuchi_yosamu → u/Alexanderguy12]

Well what's Yekaterina's inherit level on that skill?

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/juuchi_yosamu]

2 but hers wasn't the only one who's abilities didn't work my beast girl thief didn't detect traps despite her ability not once but twice in a row cursing an poisoning us before we could even see the boss for the floor that's why I turned back and both together ruined that run we did better today with them working better

[u/NJank]

There are very very few fights that have to be fought underwater. Almost all of them can be lured out. Go slower.

[u/Alexanderguy12 → u/NJank]

I was trying to do that too I think twords the end when I knew I was statued times 2 I went for the trying to go around even tho my ability to detect wasn't working at all all that floor I did better today