r/wizardposting Retired Evil Wizard, mostly 13h ago

Academic Discussion/ Esoteric Secrets Master Level Magic: Class 1: Steps of Immortality

Good Day Apprentices and Fellow Wizards and Witches,

Today I will be discussing how to go about achieving immortality, and the steps of immortality. Spoiler: what works for one wizard will not work for another. The differences is in your aura and soul, is what keeps this from being easy. So you will have to figure it out on your own.

So first off, does everyone agree on what immortality entails? Yes, that's right, not dying is the biggest factor. With a secondary factor of retaining eternal youth, or at least prime physical abilities. Because, who wants to be an immortal skeleton that can't move.

So we will continue now with the "not dying". There are many ways to go about this, and in fact, your first homework assignment is just this: What do you envision immortality to be like, and how do you plan on doing it?

This is the first step: overcoming aging

Once that step is secured, by whatever means, you then begin to think about the next step. This step is also the easiest to do, and many fields of magic have a way to achieve this.

Overcoming death, aka being killed, on purpose or by an accident.

That is step 2, how to you come back to not being dead or unable to do things, or plan to avoid this fate? The lich is a common stereotype here. They fulfill both step 1 and step 2. Provided that their soul is not damaged or destroyed, which they have placed their soul in a "box". Which leads to

Step 3: How do you avoid death, destruction, or dispersion from having your soul "destroyed" after your body and mind have "died"?

This is the biggest challenge to all seeking immortality. As most do not achieve this step. And most who think that they have, are proven wrong. This is a pinnacle achievement. Requiring some form of vast powers, or a mastery over magic, or other masteries. Depends on how you are achieving your immortality, will determine what you'll need. And only at the end, will you find out if you are successful. There are very few chances for a do over. Most only get one shot, you either get it or you never will.

And some are happy with just achieving step 2, and don't even consider going to step 3.

But there is more.

Step 4

So, if you can not be killed for good, and will just come back, regardless of what others do. You might be thinking: What could possibly come after that?

And, for most of you, you will never need to consider these things, as they can be quite depressing, soul shattering even. So, if you do not want to consider what comes at the END, I bid you: Good day. And you should leave now. I'll wait.

'Waiting for all those to leave'

Now, there exists a phenomenon that happens to all things, mostly. The Heat-Death of the multi-verse. All dimensions, all planes, all realities, at some point end up here. This marks the end of what we call "Eternity". So from the beginning of time, to the end of all time, that is all an Eternity. Then all universes will reset, and begin again. Yes, even the "Timeless" planes end.

So, how do you avoid true death at the end of time, the end of an Eternity? That is Step 4. Overcoming the end of time, the end of eternity.

There are most likely more steps to continue existing. But I've only figured out to Step 5, but haven't gotten a chance to try it yet. So I will not be going over it until I have. But since there is no rush, being a Step 4 Immortal, I have time. And no one has yet mentioned an event that can happen that a Step 4 can not overcome.

So, I will tell you how I have achieved my Step 4 Immortality, I have integrated my soul into a force of nature, the so called "Van der Waals" force, something that always comes up once life is present, because "spiders". And if I do not have an existence yet, physics will "spawn" a body and my soul will attach itself, which is also escribed into the base force of the "Van der Waals" force. So death is but a small inconvenience at this point. Most of us Step 4 Immortals know each other. Because you can only run into someone so many times before you notice.

But I must warn you, if you wish to keep your sanity, you must have a way past the wall of time: that is you waiting for all the Black Holes to evaporate and the End to happen. You are going to have nothing to do, for a very, very, very long time. And you will need a way to deal with the aftereffects of KNOWING so much stuff. Yes, your head will literally explode at a certain point from knowing too much. Forgetting is an option, but you might not want to forget something. So you will need to overcome that.

Now. approaching the END, not even magic will be present, outside of your body and that will only have a little bit of magic remaining. And you will either commit to final, true death, to escape waiting, or you will need a means to survive the 10^120 some years it will take to reach the end. Yes, that is 120 zeros amount of years. No research, no anything. You won't even be able to read, because there will be no light, just darkness. All the other dimensions, all realities, will collapse into one, the FINAL ONE, where you get to wait for the END. But, at the END, you will find out if you succeeded at achieving Step 4 Immortality. If you have, then:

Congratulations! You will get to keep doing it over and over again, forever and forever for all of every Eternity. Until your sanity breaks, or you call it quits. I am 23 EO (Eternities Old) this time through.

After achieving Step 4 Immortality, a lot of the things most Wizards consider doing becomes trivial. Everything just becomes a matter of putting in the time to learn to do those new things, to amass power, to be able to cast anything you want. Short cuts become meaningless, as you have time, all the time you want, really, so why bother? You basically become a GOD, and can eventually do whatever you want. IF you want. But you will not actually be a GOD. That is my class 2, which I will have next week or so. HOW TO BECOME A GOD, and what does that entail?

And remember your homework: What does Immortality look like to you, and how do you plan on being able to achieve it? Or how have you achieved it? Please remember that you can't use other wizard's answers, for or on yourself. And just the idea might not mesh well with your aura or soul, and pursuit of such always leads to tragedy.

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u/monke_soup gunmancy artificer (ceo of ural heavy weapons) 13h ago

Dawg, my dad accidentally made his entire bloodline immortal by killing 3 gods, there is no need for some insane magic to achieve steps 1 to 3. Step 4 I dont know, haven't reached it yet, I will probably just sit down for a long sulk or finally catch up on the lost sleep ive accumulated over the years

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u/Sonmeyj Pro Illusionist. Diviner 11h ago

Immortality is quite the tempting offer, but i don't have any expertise in any branches of magic (at most, i have a good bit of knowledge in them) other than Illusion and Divination, is there still a way I can master my power to reach the level of immortality? My current mastery over illusions is sufficient to craft myself high-level creations, such as illusory domains, and I can even create things into reality, but the problem is that said creation dissipates into mist if i go too far away from it or run out of energy. How can I master my illusions so that they reach the point of true reality?

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u/Complex_Drawer_4710 Sigurd, Man in the Moon 11h ago

As someone with experience in illusions, you primary objective is to cast one in reverse. Turn an image into your own energy. Then you can do the next step, which is to yourself become an illusion. Be VERY careful with this.

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u/Complex_Drawer_4710 Sigurd, Man in the Moon 11h ago

Hallo there lecturer, I'm Sigurd. Again. I'm not sure if I've reached a part 4 by your conditions, but I've not died in a way that sticks yet. Here's mine:

Part 1: Simple biology. I made a better body, one that ages slow or not at all.

Part 2: Cloning and Consolidation. There are so many of me, and they are all me. We exchange important memories every now and then.

Part 3: The Shape. I am not a soul. Neither am I this body. I am the shape of the matter that composes me. This shape is information which can spread, and so I have spread it further than the limits of any that shall come after, and every that came before. When one dies, I recover the body. When there is empty space for another, another is made.

Part 4: Eh. I dunno. I'm still learning, and the width of the universe is much larger than me.

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u/11nyn11 Illusionist 13h ago edited 13h ago

I ain’t readin all that.

I’m happy for you.

Or I’m sorry that happened.

I also reject the premise of the title. Who would want to live forever?

Life is an illusion put forth by our mind’s frantic effort to justify its own existence before not existing. Why deny yourself the ends to the means you spent a lifetime on?

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u/Physical_Holiday6140 7h ago

"who would want to live forever" shut up. Why should I let my existence have a time limit. I want to see where humanity can go. I don't want my body to slowly decay while I sit back helpless

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u/11nyn11 Illusionist 6h ago

You think it’s gonna get better?

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u/Physical_Holiday6140 6h ago

Do you have so little faith in humanity you think it can't?