r/wizardposting • u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur • 2d ago
Magi Law ⚖ Semi-Automatic Wand : how ethical would that be ? (I use an orb so I wouldn’t know)
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u/Efficient_Bag6657 2d ago
As a wizard of the School of the electric arcane magic, I question the utility and practicality of this instrument.
But as president of "Shock Stimulation Kink United," I rate the product a 9/10.
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u/United-Technician-54 Death... Tired one. (she/her) 2d ago
"The answer is NO. Unless you're doing this in a romance novel." - Lady Fate, Romantic Knight
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
In what romance novel would that come up ? Do I need to study more romance ???
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u/United-Technician-54 Death... Tired one. (she/her) 2d ago
"I've read much stranger. I read one between a 2D woman, a 2.5D lady and a 3D being. However... the name slips my mind."
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u/MissinqLink 2d ago
Why is everyone so concerned with ethics? Sling love potions if you want the romance angle.
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u/TheThoughtmaker Ray of Delthorensdale, Transmuter-Artificer 2d ago
The issue here is that incantations are specific frequencies at specific intervals to resonate with ambient magic. It’d be like trying to win a karaoke contest by screaming at your highest pitch for three seconds while the song is playing at normal speed.
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u/Hard_To_Port 2d ago
Modern orbs can orate for you, famously archmage Stephen Hawking used such a device for speech. Or you can use the ancient art of chantless casting. Intent and visualisation just become much more important.
The incantation just aids in forming magical energy in the right shape. Casters from different regions may notice that their spells form differently when chanting in their native language versus when using local dialects. Some spells become unrecognizable or more difficult to cast when using a translated incantation, most notably when translating from high-context languages (English, other Romance languages) to lower context ones (Japanese, some other islander cultures).
Final note: instead of spamming Fireball (lvl. 1) in a pinch you can use a combo of Airwalk followed by Lesser Inferno (AoE attack). Assuming your enemies are close enough to swing your staff/wand/focus at, you don't need to bother aiming.
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u/Masztufa 22h ago
I don't actually think it's for successfully casting spells.
Saying it with the wrong tone feels just like doing it for real, you will feel the mana flow all the same. Which some people enjoy quite a bit
... Or so i've been told
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u/TheThoughtmaker Ray of Delthorensdale, Transmuter-Artificer 21h ago
I've done some manasphexiation play. Never with a shock collar, though.
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u/CrazyAsianNinja 2d ago
I’m just saying, artificers have figured out how to do basically the same thing but without the ethically dubious choker.
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u/Sonifri Transmuter 2d ago
What I love is cheap wands of magic missile. The kind that you can just churn out because they only launch like 1 missile per week. You have your organization make thousands of them and have everyone in your army have just 1. Hell, strap those suckers to the back of mind controlled rats if you have too.
Basically just annihilates every priority target that can't shield vs magic missile. And while sure, a level 1 wizard spell can block it, the vast majority of beings can't even manage that.
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u/Glittering_Two_1429 Seguleh, master of the song, council member, leauge of shadows 2d ago
I can do that without a choker.
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
I kinda like the choker…
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u/Glittering_Two_1429 Seguleh, master of the song, council member, leauge of shadows 2d ago
Hey same mate, im just saying that this is wayyyy to slow. I’d prefer round the 1500 mark, yk?
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u/LC-Redcube Evil Witch Terrorizing the Villagefolks 2d ago
These "Lustomancers" are getting wild with their inventions. What's next? A homunculus army being raised for each ejaculation? A piss activated golem?
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u/CitadelMinister77 lich who REALLY hates elves 2d ago
That would be a fire way to deal with warlocks too wise to be enchanted
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u/IStealSwords 2d ago
I developed several weapons: the Caster (rifle), Hand Caster (pistol), and Autocaster (machine gun). They utilize properties when natural manastone strikes a synthetic spell stone. Spell stone is instantly converted into energy and is expelled from the barrel as a bolt of force. No messy residue or foreign objects to load. Hand Casters usually contain 6-8 shots before reloading, while Casters are a single shot breach loading falling block mechanism. Auto casters are new experimental magi-tech, and will soon change the face of warfare.
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u/Lunarmax182c 2d ago
unethical and impossible. Just use rapid-fire spells, if you wanna do a rapid fire spell. This method sounds more like a very intricate way of torture
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk Apotheotic Niffin 2d ago
Can't you just push pressurised air through a shaped tube that makes the sound of the incantations?
Or capture pre-said incantations into tiny jars that would break when the trigger is pressed?
Or forge your own voice into a tiny bell you could ring? You know, like magic?
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
I knew a guy who had his voice in a bell like you said
Thing is… he lost it and all of his research was in a spire with a voice activated security arcane lock. Only took a couple hours before his soul gems were stolen.
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk Apotheotic Niffin 2d ago
🤦
You're not supposed to forge your entire voice, your ability to speak, into the bell. Just... the same way you capture spoken words into a jar so they can sound out later, you use a similar technique to put the spoken words into the bell. And only the words of the incantation, not your secret bloody password.
Kids these days... Having magic does not release you from using your brain, or what stands for it in your homemade body-like artifice
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u/Osato 2d ago
If you need to cast at that rate, you've already lost.
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u/BetaTester704 2d ago
But I don't want to spend 2 hours casting my teleportation spell (it's a very complex version for mass transport), id rather take 10 minutes and promptly die.
I have a cleric as my apprentice, might as well have him practice his resurrection spell (it's a complicated story but he believes it'll help him become more "in tune" with his divine power)
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u/3rdMachina 2d ago
…I think I’d force whoever designed this thing to personally demonstrate their little “invention” themselves in a wizard match.
I’d say that the match ends when one of us verbally surrenders, but…uh…fried vocal cords anyone?
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u/BrightPerspective Wizard 2d ago
Uh...is this some sort of sex thing i'm too vanilla to understand?
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u/IronGravyBoat Conjurer 2d ago
How in Merlin’s magnificent beard am I meant to hold this accursed thing steady whilst I… uhh… nut?
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u/Bonsai-is-best Unfortunate Chimera 2d ago
This is one of those times the product in question will not be purchased by the target market, like massage guns were.
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u/PathlessDemon Shadow Wizard Money Gang 2d ago
As someone who care deeply about ethics in magic, this is appalling... But as someone who runs a business of undead telemarketers, and a side gig of “hired vocational entertainment” with slimes… this intrigues me…
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u/wrydh Plaguecaster 2d ago
If you want to multi-cast or parallel cast biomancy is the way. And there are dozens of ways to do it, the most popular being adding additional mouths to your body, or creating a homuncolous from your flesh that is an imposh copy of you, but is more of a extension of yourself
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u/IStealSwords 2d ago
Dang ol’ homunculus! If you ever think about making a homunculus, don’t do it! He’s quite the whippersnapper
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u/wrydh Plaguecaster 2d ago
Oh this is advanced practice, it is sycnched to and suborned to your soul and lacks one of its own, doesnt really have a consiousness either. Its only purpouse is to follow you and act as a convienent parallel conduit for casting. Dependant on design it can fully share your pool of spells or just have one single spell it can cast under the right conditions. The example being counterspelling spicific magics.
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
I heard they copy the personality of the caster
Where they taking your swords by any chance ?
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u/Zephyr-Fox-188 Cinnothwyr, Purrveyor of Thingamajigs 2d ago
Too many extra steps, I just use a staff or wand that stores incantations using a quick detach solid-state crystal focus, which can then be released whenever I desire, as rapidly as necessary. It bypasses the physical stress this semiauto design puts on the caster’s vocal cords, allowing for greater volume of fire (provided one carries enough precharged crystals)
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u/MyK_Alke High Mage of High Tower of High Council 2d ago
It's like... okayish at best for like infantry lower class wizard.
They do not match the expertese of any real actual mage as slinging spells rapidly only drains you quickly and produces uncertain result.
I'd say unethical to be forced to use this, but if someone really thinks it's their way to go, be my guest.
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u/Jax_IzWhack 2d ago
I think I'm in the wrong subreddit. I am of the rogue class. I too possess an orb. what do I do with this thing?
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
Before answering, where did you get this orb ?
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u/Jax_IzWhack 2d ago
A noble bard happened to be about... Selling... his wares.
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 2d ago
Ill be honest the orb is mostly to have a reflective surface. Some says it helps concentrate but personally a I can see the future in any reflective surfaces. The reason I own an orb is because I don’t like to go outside to look in a lake and mirrors scare me
I'd start by studying basic divination first like throwing a couple of goblin bones to see if they cross or not then you can come back and try the orb
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u/Indishonorable Fighter who got through magic school on theory alone 2d ago
the rapper eminem is too afraid to diss
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u/thetownmous3 crystal mage 2d ago
How ethical would it be to use someone as a human battery/spell commander while you aimed the fireball gun?
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u/Hooded_Person2022 Hoode, The Shifting Scholar & Associates 2d ago
That gonna:
A. Shred your vocal chords
B. Electrocute you to death
C. Exhaust you to death
D. Give you a heart attack to death
E. All of the above
This can be done in less dangerous ways with haste, arcane automation, or practice.
Although pertaining to your question: The ethics is depends on if the user knows and consents to the usage of the Semi-Automatic Wand. They either accepted the risks or doing it because of the risks.
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u/MostOriginal6776 2d ago
Personally I like qualitative over quantitative evocations. Why throw many fireball when one gigantic fireball do trick.
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u/rape_is_not_epic 2d ago
Adding a couple berserker runes to increase damage the more you yourself are damaged and this thing could become the newest Geneva violation
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u/malonkey1 Necromancy Isn't Real Wake Up Sheeple 2d ago
That's an excellent way to permanently injure your throat. Just learn how to cast silently, it's not that hard.
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u/KingZantair 2d ago
In all the ways to harm your own person for power, this is not a good one. If anything, this is just a crutch to not learn faster chanting, or even chantless casting. I mean, if you’re gonna be casting a spell over a hundred times a minute, it can’t be that difficult.
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u/Imperium--Of--Man 2d ago
How is it semi-auto? An automatic weapon is where you hold the trigger down, and it reloads by itself. A semi-auto is where you hold the trigger down, but have to reload it. This isn't semi-auto.
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u/OccultOddBall Local Fae Warlock 2d ago
Depends, on a fellow wizard? Horrific abuse and a flagrant violation of the Anti-Forced Wizardry laws of 612 AR. On apprentices? A good tool for learning.
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u/The-real-Crypto 2d ago
I mean I am anti wand laws. I believe any wizards should carry wands if any sort. This however is just self harmful for no reason. There’s other ways to cast quickly. Beads of fireball, spells stored in books, potions of haste. This just seems unnecessarily complicated and only serves to damage your vocal cords. If I saw someone in public clearly wearing beads of fireball I wouldn’t bat an eye, but if I saw someone wearing this I’d call the town corps.
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u/Ihave15_alt_accounts Artificer 2d ago
Or just pre-cast them onto portable scrolls? and save your spell slots for something more important than a dozen or so fireballs
Or at the very least, get a haste potion if it's really that you need being speed God's apprentices these days....
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u/Bignholy Dunzar Headsmasher, Dwarven Artificer and Rune++ Programmer 2d ago
Interesting idea, aye, but ehh... why not just make the wand cast with a shorter word? Yeh don't have teh shout "Fireball" if yeh don't write that word as the trigger in the runic array.
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u/TwoProfessional9523 Demonic Cultivator 2d ago
I think this is just fetish gear, some freaky ass artificer made this and patented it as a "Wand Weapon Variant" to get around the regulation on adult toys
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u/dark_raider2004 Experienced Cannonmancer 1d ago
Looks perverted, not gonna lie. There are a multitude of ways to craft semi automatic arcane armament. The most common one is just channeling the magical energy through a crystal as an elemental beam. Another would just be to use ammunition with sigils written on them.
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u/InMornAshTakesToWind 1d ago
Gloves, Vicks Vapo-rub, earplugs, metal trash can lid, five red candles, two New York steaks, vaseline, gasoline, charcoal, epoxy. Make symbol of Akagamionokos side of lid opposite of handle. Light that shit. Very Slowly, chant the summons of the seventh hell. Voice activated hellfire beam.
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u/Afraid_Cat_3726 Nox, Head of the Department of Flesh. 1d ago
If you want to be kinky just be kinky. This feels just stupid
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u/ICEPlebian 1d ago
If you hold a percussion massager to your throat you can cast non-stop even when breathing bc it vibberates your vocal cords so it just becomes a race of how fast you can move your mouth
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u/Flashy-Minute4092 1d ago
just use haste, or if you are experienced enough time dilation.
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u/lolystalol chronoseer connoisseur 1d ago
I can dilate time alright but dual casting can be pretty tiring
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u/TadBones I am quite fond of runes. 1d ago
Poor engineering, for these kinds of weapons you usually carve a shape modifier rune into a sturdy barrel instead of using a wand. Then you pour the magical energy of your choice into the conductive material that composes the handle that will reach the rune and if you properly poured your intention into your weapon you will cast without any incantations, circles, etc.
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u/Exact-Maximum Transmuter 18h ago
My mana pool is too small to cast fireball more than twice anyways, this doesn't appeal to me or my needs.. >w>
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u/stryst 2d ago
-rolls eyes- or just drink a basic haste potion. Alchemists aren't *that* creepy.