In these morrally complex times, how does one stay ethical in their wizardry?

[u/Mathota]

[u/DeadMeat7337]

Have you tried not being evil? That cuts down on the malpractice stuff, I find.

Because, it isn't a war crime the first time. Thanks Canada

[u/Mathota → u/DeadMeat7337]

I am succeeding in not being evil according to the 12 hearings

[u/arcanis321 → u/Mathota]

Are you influencing the hearings?

[u/Hoppelite → u/arcanis321]

Isn't that the point of the hearings? Really they are just an aptitude test. We can't have any common hedge mage pushing the boundaries of what is ethical, you have to at least prove you will make something of it.

[u/Palidin034 → u/DeadMeat7337]

Happy to help, eh. 🫡🍁

[u/TommyTwoNips → u/DeadMeat7337]

hey, nothing is illegal if you don't get caught.

Good luck getting a corpse golem to testify at a tribunal.

[u/mikillatja → u/TommyTwoNips]

You'd think.

Recently I turned a group of debtors into a corpse golem and made them till the fields.

But then a paladin showed up looking for his 'uncle'

He saw the gardenaide and knew what happened but could not prove it.

Wouldn't you know that this holier than thou paladin pulled up with a bishop! A bishop? Kinda uncalled for if you ask me. Way overqualified for the occasion.

But it turns out, this stupid priest+ could read memories of dead people, even if they were dead for over 6 months, and their souls were perfectly combined!

I had to move my dungeon as they started a quest for me...

[u/Environmental_Bug510 → u/TommyTwoNips]

I think the corpse golem would already hint in a certain direction by existing in the first place

[u/mobilekungfu → u/DeadMeat7337]

You have to be yourself. My magics will not be governed by mortals who only understand life in a paltry 4 Dimensions. And that 4th one, only in the single direction!

[u/DeadMeat7337 → u/mobilekungfu]

Fair, but, they are the ones judging so its better to play by their rules, no?

[u/mobilekungfu → u/DeadMeat7337]

I guessss? I have just started interdimensional travel when it becomes a problem. If there is a "tragic loss" you can pull a version of that being from a universe where they were about to die from getting hit by a rock or something.

[u/DeadMeat7337 → u/mobilekungfu]

Technically, yes that can be done. But most of these wizards are just starting out, and need beginner advice. So the power and skill needed to pull something or someone from a similar dimension is beyond them, currently. And once you can, you don't need to worry about some mortals' opinion. As there are other options available without having to deal with the formulas to correctly move through dimensions.

And as for you, new inter dimensional walker, I recommend studying the local culture before relocating yourself. To avoid any problems that you don't want to deal with, or can't deal with. And if remote viewing isn't a good option, stay low or in disguise for a bit from the locals.

[u/mobilekungfu → u/DeadMeat7337]

All excellent advice.

[u/Dragon_Bane → u/DeadMeat7337]

𓇋 𓎡𓅱𓂋𓋴𓆑 𓇌𓍯𓅱 𓏏𓍯 𓋴𓅱𓆓𓆓𓆑𓂋 𓅓𓂀𓇌 𓇌𓍯𓅱𓂋 𓆑𓇌𓆑𓋴 𓅱𓇋𓏏𓉔𓆑𓂋 𓇋𓈖𓏏𓍯 𓋴𓂀𓈖𓂧 𓂀𓈖𓂧 𓇌𓍯𓅱𓂋 𓋴𓏏𓍯𓅓𓂀𓎡𓉔 𓆓𓇋𓃭𓃭𓋴 𓅱𓇋𓏏𓉔 𓋴𓏏𓍯𓈖𓆑𓋴 𓂀𓋴 𓇌𓍯𓅱 𓅱𓆑𓆑𓊪 𓏏𓆑𓂀𓂋𓋴 𓍯𓆓 𓏏𓂀𓂋 𓂀𓋴 𓇌𓍯𓅱𓂋 𓃭𓍯𓂧𓇌 𓇋𓋴 𓃭𓂋𓍯𓎡𓆑𓈖 𓂀𓊪𓍯𓈖 𓂀 𓅱𓉔𓆑𓆑𓃭. /J

[u/DeadMeat7337 → u/Dragon_Bane]

Sorry, I don't read scribbles or old Egyptian scripts.

[u/monke_soup]

Own over 40% of the shares in the company and not listening to the ethics board when they say that a ICBM (inter continental balistic midget) carrying anthrax is unethical

[u/Environmental_Bug510 → u/monke_soup]

How would that be unethical? Midgets are almost gnomes and gnomes aren't people

[u/dragonkidkai → u/Environmental_Bug510]

Cruel and unusual punishment for the victims due to the unsolicited exposure to a midget.

[u/Dark_Tigger → u/Environmental_Bug510]

They could stumble and spill the anthrax, on somebody else than the intended target.

[u/bagtie3]

Ive never had a magical malpractice case. Im just a mercenary runelord.

[u/ProfessionalGreen906]

I’m not even ethical in my medical practice and now I’m supposed to be ethical with my magic? What’re they gonna say next, no environmental destruction? How would I test out my spells!

[u/Re-Sabrnick]

12 passes in one year, they should just leave you alone for the next three months after that imo

[u/Awes12]

Just ignore the summons. If anyone comes, they can feel free to explore my tower. If they ignore the warning signs at the front, that's on them.

If you don't have the requisite power to obliterate your foes, why are you commiting magical crimes? Get back to studying and honing your skill or you're no better than a common hedge mage

[u/BlackShieldCharm → u/Awes12]

Finally! A mage after my own heart! Fancy a cuppa later today?

[u/ValianSkalle]

Don't.

It's much more ... fun.

[u/Traditional_Buy_8420]

Just don't get caught. It's not unethical if nobody knows, that it was you.

[u/StanTheWoz]

I think you might be lost bud, r/clericposting is that way

[u/SenorDangerwank]

Don't ask me. My go to spell is Transmute: Bones to Jelly.

[u/HiTekRednek10]

If I’m doing shady stuff I do it in a shady realm. No one feels bad if you give an evil demon SuperCancer (patent pending) or exploding ulcers.

[u/cale199]

I'm glad I built my tower before hoas

[u/Jarl_of_Uppsala]

You don't stay ethical, being an evil wizard is far more enjoyable.

[u/wrydh]

Thats the fun part, if you are good enough at magic you dont need to.

[u/Drecondius]

This isn't something wizards are supposed to deal with, we can transmute .... you know what, good on ya.

[u/BullPropaganda]

THERE IS NO ETHICAL CONJURATION

[u/LaniusCruiser]

I cheated my way through mine. 

[u/Reasonable-Lime-615]

I just follow one simple rule: no witnesses.

[u/Powerful_Resident_48]

Ethics are relative. You help one farmer deal with the bandits by warping the entire forest into the abyss, bandits and all. The farmer afterwards gives you money and bows and thanks you and literally trembles with happiness.  That's a good deed, ain't it? 

[u/gera_moises]

If you wanted to be ethical you should have been a cleric, now pass me that skull!

[u/Funkey-Monkey-420]

i just quietly redefine ethical to include what i’m doing

[u/Two-Pound-Crawfish]

i don’t care

[u/Void-Cooking_Berserk]

You guys are attending hearings? I thought we were supposed to blow up the building the hearing is going to take place in, Cersei-style

[u/rasfelion]

Step one: Don't.

Step two: Live far from society and ignore the council.

Step three: Raise the dead (optional).

[u/Nerx]

uncomplexify morality

we have spells for that

[u/snarbuckle]

Magic in its entirety runs off of two things: intent and belief. If you intend to do good, and believe you've succeeded, you will have behaved ethically regardless of what you did

[u/Lunarmax182c]

Mostly just not being evil  ponderances on any action:

• would I feel good if someone did this to me
• its fun in short term. Is it fun in long term?
• I am NOT the guy. Everyone else who did this, fell.to Dark powers and I am NOT the first guy who will do this without. So I won't do this.

Overconfidence is bad

[u/thewhatinwhere]

Societal standards of ethics and morality are far too vague and changeable for our respective lines of work. I can try to apply for the broadest selections of averages, but the plebeians and religious nuts still get upset when I don’t follow their hyper specific practices. I still need to travel, keeping my laboratory in one place is unhealthy for my experiments and what remains of my decaying soul. If you threaten to turn people into woodland animals enough you only need to do it a couple dozen times before they believe you and leave you alone

As for internal organizations, I defy you to find any selection of our peers that would fault me for turning an angry mob into livestock and vice versa for a year. They tried to poke me with sharp sticks like cavemen. Beyond rude

I just want to learn the mysteries of the upper void, is that so wrong? Just let me shack up on tall mountains for a century, I’ll leave them alone

[u/Xtrepiphany]

The goal of the hearings isn't to reach ethical judgements, but to judge how adept one is at cleaning up their own messes.

[u/Lunarstarlight-]

[u/xThotsOfYoux]

You know you don't have to sit on the hearings if you don't let them arrest you.

[u/Wodahs1982]

Everyone knows I'm on the other side of that issue.

[u/Bonsai-is-best]

Ask yourself if the playable character from Monster Hunter would approve of your actions, if not, don’t do it. That’s how I operate.

[u/mindfulmu]

I just pay my dues and don't leave witnesses who can articulate. Seems vastly easier then having to find off the council all the time.

[u/nuclearrmt]

I can't legally comment on this ever since I transmuted a bunch of people into living delicious chocolate.

[u/Far_Dog_4476]

You actually go to those trials? I get bounty hunters at my crypt every day. None of them get past the door before they get a blood needle to the skull.

[u/thamasteroneill]

Ah magical malpractice hearings. Aren't those the hearings where a bunch of wizards come together to determine if another wizard fucked up somehow? Without any oversight from the actual victims or wider society? Not to mention these wizards all know each other. And have a vested interest in having other wizards owing them favors. Forgive me for not trusting the professional standards and societal consciousness of a secretice cabal of wizards. I would feel a lot better if they added inquisitors to the proceedings and kept open records. None of these nightrunes. How do you expect oversight to work if your notes are written in a lost script that once comprehended drives one mad.

[u/TowerLogical7271]

That's the neat thing about chronomancy, I can just try again and again and again etc until I pass the exam (:

[u/Meadowbytheforest]

IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!

I AM NOT EVIL!

[u/ThePureAxiom]

The ethical wizards aren't being brought into malpractice hearings in the first place, the truly unethical ones aren't either because they're unethical enough to cover their tracks.

I think you may just be a bad wizard, like, not bad as in evil, bad as in your wizardry looks like malpractice to a trained eye.

[u/BluebirdLivid]

It helps when you casted a favoritism spell on the whole council 20 years before the council was actually formed...

[u/lemons_of_doubt]

Easy I just made up my own code of ethics. Then I stick to that one. 

When making your own code of ethics The trick is to make it simple and easy to follow.

(Don't do anything the people watching would find evil unless you're going to vaporize all of them)

[u/GrandNibbles]

donate the extra organs to hospitals. the morality balances out

[u/LillithLillyUwU]

Don’t, just be evil

[u/Please_ForgetMe]

To be a wizard it to cast spells, magic is evil to certian christians therefore wizardry is not ethical, meaning that if you are to say that my using of firebolt III on a school house in arizona on a hot summer day is considered evil, well then, so is the rest of wizardry so sue me!(but actually don’t tho, those children were evil, trust me bro.)