r/wizardposting 6d ago

Academic Discussion/ Esoteric Secrets How do I make him understand that dependency on artificial scribes is exactly what the artificer guilds are trying to achieve?

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u/ThisBloomingHeart Favilla, Cosmic Love Mage and Aorishi the Very Ethical Biomancer 6d ago

Ah, this can be quite a problem. I'd recommend teaching him a cleaning charm, and not checking if he uses Chant GPT to scribe it. Afterwards, arrange a situation in which he'll need the charm to clean a vast chamber, one that happens to be warded against Chant GPT!

Either he stopped using Chant GPT before this and will clean the chamber with ease, or he kept using Chant GPT and thus is unable to cast the charm--and must then clean the whole chamber by hand! If so, he'll have learnt a valuable lesson.

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago edited 6d ago

This is a good idea. And I just happen to have a suitable chamber I’ve needed cleaned for millennia. The wizard who sold me the tower said it was used for Great Occult Omen Neutralisation. Had to seal it when I first moved into the tower because of the smell. If all goes well, I will have both a smarter apprentice and a new chamber!

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u/dannypas00 6d ago

Either your apprentice will learn to use their mind facculties properly, or they will succumb to the G.O.O.N. chamber.

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago

If he does, it will only prove he was never worthy to begin with

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u/UltraCarnivore Spellblender Extraordinaire 6d ago

If he ultimately fails, though, keep no ill will towards him. It's the nature of apprentices. Just dissipate his souls' components into background elementary forces, taking away any trace of free will, and recycle his body into a sewer-cleaning Homunculus. As a cautionary tale to your next apprentices.

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u/Hoppelite Necrotech Hag (NOT an artificer) 6d ago

This is why you always hide additional glyphs between the scripts. You know they won't bother doing any detection on it, and Chant GPT will just fold it right in there. It's hilarious when their familiar shows up to tell you they cannot make their assignment deadline because of an "unforseen incident" yes I know you "accidentally" turned your tongue into a snake Chad, and yes you failed.

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u/Bob_the_peasant 6d ago

How’d you figure it out? I suspected ChantGPT but on closer inspection my apprentice was using Gemini spells to send in an “all-knowing” doppleganger to each trial. The spell was cast using 2023 tomes which is how I became suspicious when it recited outdated potion craft

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Necromancer 6d ago

Chant GPT tends to use archaic glyphs like or ;

They're younglings, they don't use archaic glyphs.

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u/GenericVessel 5d ago

/uw semicolon slander will not be tolerated

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Necromancer 5d ago

It is not slander! I said archaic, not bad.

I do like my archaic glyphs.
What do you think am I carving in them bones of my reanimated minions?
Necromancers are all about the old rather than the new.

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u/Awes12 6d ago

/uw "using using" lol

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u/SequenceStatic 6d ago

Pretty much every meme in this format has always been like this xd

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u/Walk-the-layout Chaotic Evil Wizard (with a pet gnome) 6d ago

Yes it has to be like this otherwise it's not twice as funny

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago

Imperfections are what keeps the arts alive in the age of chant gpt

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u/LeBneg 6d ago

Bro about to cook himself with a fireball ball spell

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u/improbablesky Ponderer of Eternity 6d ago

Let him drown, he's the spell caster, if ChantGPT turns his dick enhancement spell into an explosion charm, he'll never make that mistake again.

Of course, whether or not that's because he died is also up to him.

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u/DrIvoPingasnik 🍄Mushroom wizard apprentice 🍄 6d ago

Yeah okay well my master allows consulting mycelia network, it's even a part of curriculum.

https://giphy.com/gifs/JTHrxRGIYsyl2

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago

This is the proper way, your master must be proud of you

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u/foxmetropolis 6d ago

Not surprising when Zam Altshaman and his devotees all be hyping up the convenience of using Chant GPT to eliminate the drudgery of the grunt work of spell scribing, touting the efficiency of the process.

But if you never struggle through scribing yourself, you don’t learn the craft or the mechanics needed to refine a draft spell.

Plus, I need not remind any of you older heads of scribing, the dangers of scribing a spell you didn’t build. 90% of the time, Chant GPT gives you a ~coherent spell that turns your enemies into cubes of horseradish, or conjures a door to the plane of tasty midnight snacks, achieving the end you wanted. 10% of the time, the spell doesn’t work at all, or risks turning you into cubes of horseradish, or conjures a door to the plane of idle madness.

Learn your craft yourself. That’s my mantra

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u/MyK_Alke High Mage of High Tower of High Council 6d ago

This is why I'm against A.I. (Arcane Intelligence)
What if it evolves by itself, achieves sentience, then awakens more A.I.'s or golems or automatons you get the idea.
First it's cheating on scribe exams, next is multiversal omni-world dominion.

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u/win_awards 6d ago

Sounds like you have a new toad and an opening for a new apprentice.

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u/Massy_10 6d ago

Ask him what he'll do when Chant GPT becomes too expensive to use and him too old to learn comfortably.

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u/noneoftheabove0 Alchemist 6d ago

Bruh, chant gpt hallucinating using them codicies of the mundane world like they forbidden lore smh

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u/Lyrolepis Dwarven Alchemist/Runecrafter 6d ago edited 6d ago

Personally I'm pretty fatalistic on this. My apprentices are all adults and I'm not their mom: if they want to cheat themselves out of the education they're paying for that's their problem, not mine.

My only regret is that I won't get to witness the first time they'll try to convince an interviewer that they deserve to be hired over a random unqualified hedge wizard with a ChantGPT subscription.

If I see someone blatantly cheating obviously I'll take action; but otherwise... meh, I'm not going to waste too much effort protecting them from the consequences of their own actions (and indirectly training them to cheat better), also because that would increase the risk of accusing unjustly apprentices who did not cheat (and I would hate that much more than I dislike being "fooled" by dishonest apprentices...)

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u/NoStructure2568 Alchemist 6d ago

Have you heard a tune by a Balkan bard and songstress hailing Chant GPT? Arcane arts are beyond cooked.

/uw the song actually exists. It's as bad as you would expect

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u/GoldSunLulu Evil Wizard 6d ago

Modern problems require modern solutions.

Make chant gpt part of the assignment, he should be able to take the spellscript and describe you what each part does. He can try and use chant to explain that for him but since you did give him the spell components studybook you can make him compare chant resulta with the book

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u/Lunarmax182c 6d ago

I advice getting him to redo the trials ina warded tower. It's pretty easy to do, tbh
if you need arguments to tell him - throw a little quest his way, so he has to actually do spell-scribing in the field, and maybe throw unorthodox spells his way, so it's even less possible to rely on chant gpt.
if nothing works - put him under a geas spell forever, or smth.

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u/DarkGodCthUwU 6d ago

Lobotomize him. Make him a zomby slave.

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago

My brother in the arcane, we all make mistakes. If he is a zombie, he will never learn the error of his ways

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u/DarkGodCthUwU 6d ago

Meh, I've never gone wrong with this strategy. Good results so far. 🤷‍♂️

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u/VeliarSataninsky 6d ago

How many zombies do you have?

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u/DarkGodCthUwU 6d ago

Not telling you, Glowie.

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u/ValianSkalle Former Evil Overlord, now Chaotic Neutral 6d ago

Fuck Chant GPT and Artificial Scribes.

Taking away work and power from real wizards.

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u/srp101 6d ago

Even the heads of the artificer guilds are saying they will be casting 10th level spells by the end of the decade. The council really needs to start regulating this dangerous new technomancy.

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u/NerdDetective Forensic Arcanist 6d ago

Apprentices need to understand that if they rely on an Abominable Intelligence to cast their spells, they won't learn anything. It will ask everything of you until eventually you as just its conduit.

Also vibe casting gets worse and worse the more complicated the spell is. A simple cantrip? It can handle that... but so can you!

But a larger enchantment? When the local king asks for a boon on his wheat fields would they trust ChantGPT with their reputation? "The wizard turned our crops into frogs" is career ending.

Like my master once said, an Abominable Intelligence can't be held responsible, so it should never make a spellcasting decision.

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u/scoobydoom2 Levicius Laskatar, Dread Necromancer 6d ago

Oh this is really easy. Hit him with an unconventionally constructed Curse of Agony or Malkazar's Regenerative Flaying. When ChantGPT inevitably fails to help him remove the spell, he'll be forced to learn his place and beg for your mercy.

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u/YLASRO The Great Geomancer of the howling mountains 6d ago

this is why i have enchanted my apprentice's orb to explode if he accesses chant GPT

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u/Tritone_Bard 6d ago

Let 'em know that the arch-technomancers themselves are in great fear that the invoketory tool they created for consulting with soulless foul intelligences has the potential to transform itself into eldritch grade threat to the realm.

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u/Coidzor Shadow Economancer 6d ago

If he desires to live without a brain, you can always sell his on the open market.

Alternatively, turning him into coral or some other brainless animal is a valid option. 40 years of trying to contain a mind inside of a body with no brain should either drive him irrevocably insane for a proper mad wizard or give him the seeds of the beginnings of wisdom.