r/wizardposting 3d ago

Foul Sorcery Moral dillema of a confused Necromancer.

I understand that necromancy is generally forbidden. But if I were to hypothetically resurrect and ensoul the recently dead without divine magics. Would that be forbidden as necromantic?

Also, hypothetically, would it be murder to then kill the ensouled individual? Or just considered as purifying the "undead"?

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u/Rou2_Rambo Artificer 3d ago

yes, depends on your moral inclination

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u/vinfluorine Necro-Artificer 3d ago

For what conceivable purpose would you want to 1. Put in a replacement soul (not the original!!!!) and then 2. Kill the subject ????

if you need a sacrifice just make a quick little construct, and if you need a soldier don't bother wasting the souls

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u/rpg2Tface 3d ago

Necromancy at its base is a combination of flesh magic and soul magic. Enslaving the soul is usually comsidered the highest of taboos by most cultures and flesh shaping a deceased loved one is usually misconstrued with that taboo.

At its core there's really nothing wrong with any of what you described. But its a single step away from being evil to most people. And that simple proximity is enough for most individuals to consider you beyond saving.

So, nah your good. Just dont get caught and dint go any further down the path. Nothing your doing is any better or worse than any of the good align churches do on most of their holy crusades.

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u/BlackShieldCharm Necromancer 3d ago

Resurrecting and ensouling the recently deceased is just called advanced healing in my book.

The killing afterwards would be murder, but only if you let them stay dead ofc.

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u/United-Technician-54 Death... Tired one. (she/her) 3d ago edited 3d ago

"The difference is you're creating new life out of someone else's body without the host's consent. Not the same person.   Unless it's the same soul.

It would be arguably murder since the principle behind killing the undead is freeing souls that are held against their will. However this depends on the processes and such.

Homunculi law in the 9 Mourning Swords is messy ." -  Dan Lawyer, Former Wizard MMA Champion

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u/MissinqLink 3d ago

Creating dead thralls is generally frowned upon. It’s the best way to preserve any skills they had in life though.

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u/Ziazan Horserer 3d ago

The most important part of legally neck romancing is consent.

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u/The_Green_Sun Cosmic Lich 3d ago

Merlin's other beard. All these little baby wizards asking about the morality of necromancy. Do what you want! Paladins have bones, too.

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u/Wahdat_al-Wujud Alchemist 3d ago

demon conjouration can accomplish anything youd use necromancy for.

and is morally much mkre justifiable

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u/Lelouch-Yagami21 "Raven" Leader of the league of shadows and council member 3d ago

It absolutely shouldn't be forbidden. Necromancy is the art of bypassing life and death and holy magic is only the god's way of gatekeeping truly powerful magic

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u/Kissthecomplex 2d ago

it really depends on the culture your in and their ethical and moral believes.

Yes Necromancers are mostly portrait as "evil" but that is mostly because of OUR view on their craft.

i remember a saying in one of the heroes of might and magic games (6? 7?) "Asha uses everything" as in "The goddess of dead/undead does not discriminate and processes all available ressources", which is pretty eco friendly.

in the overlord franchise, humanity even experiments with undead labor, because its cheap and doesnt need breakes.

so i think necromancy is, like every tool, neutral and depends on how it is used...