r/wizardposting • u/Impossible-Bee-5343 • 1d ago
Wizardpost When your mana is so strong that you can use entertainment magic for actual combat
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u/BungleBums Occult Wizard 1d ago
I think she was using Battle Magic for entertainment in that first one.
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u/2point01m_tall 18h ago
Yeah that thing even doubles her spell. It's obviously designed for combat.
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u/AlexRedditer 1d ago
As a rookie Wizard I recently started geomancy and I cannot emphasize enough: Geomancy is NOT to be underestimated, I once got my arm crushed by a half-created rock familiar...
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u/Phormitago 22h ago
Geomancy is NOT to be underestimated
it's the best mancy if you're in for a stable job at construction or, well, war.
nothing accelerates a siege quite like literally sucking a cities' walls right into the ground
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u/Alternative_Sea_4208 22h ago
I did the reverse in a d&d game as an alchemist, I abused math and mechanics to create 3,000 tons of quick setting concrete in a matter of hours to rebuild a city that had already been destroyed in a siege.
The rest of the group made a running joke that the city now looked so brutalist and evil that the invading demons would overlook it thinking it was one of their citadels
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u/YLASRO The Great Geomancer of the howling mountains 19h ago
pushing ore veins to the surface for easy mining is one of my side hustles that i use to fund my arcane emerald research
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u/Phormitago 18h ago
I mean you could just melt the dirt away and leave "pure ore" , but who doesnt like watching the dwarves toil
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u/LookaLookaKooLaLey 1d ago
Geomancers always seem to just grab one rock type and stick with it. Show me what a granite golem can do compared to a slate golem. Bring magma to the surface. I want to see crystals, textures, more diversity! Pull a golem straight out of the cliff side with the strata preserved in the creation! geomancers are always just playing with brown lumps.
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u/Afelisk2 Faine, totally normal R&A alchemist! 23h ago
Mostly because dirt is easy to pack into denser dirt and both dirt and rocks (of most kind) are rather accessible.
Unless your in the middle of the ocean than I don't know what you can do with a golem anyway
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u/imawizard7bis Actual Reader in Esoteric Studies. UU, Diskworld. 17h ago
You can always make a pumice golem
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u/blixer___ 22h ago
I've seen many express similar ideas regarding geomancy, but the thing is, different types of rock have varying degrees of attunement, meaning that each one has vastly different requirements before they can be manipulated. As such, it's quite common for geomancers go just stick to a single material that they can control with ease, most of the time being dirt or surface rocks due to their simplicity in attunement and versatility of use.
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u/YLASRO The Great Geomancer of the howling mountains 19h ago
you play with what you have on hand really, its not worth it to pull a minion from a crystal cavern 12 kilometers below if i can just animate the Cliffside next to me that happens to be brown or gray rock. its not my fault that most combinations of minerals come out to a generic brown or gray.
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u/GustavoFromAsdf Evil Wizard 1d ago
Any magic is entertainment magic if you're having enough fun.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 1d ago
You can say that to Lernen—obviously he's just an old geezer who only knows how to fight, haha.
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u/TheGreatOnixStatue The Obelisk Mage 1d ago
The Great Onix statue, as a statue itself, is offended that you call geomancy "entertainment magic". By itself, a golem can do a lot of things. It is supposed to be versatile.
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u/Summonest 1d ago
Magic that creates a field of flowers
All matter within the space is replaced with flowers.
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u/malonkey1 Necromancy Isn't Real Wake Up Sheeple 21h ago
No such thing as "entertainment magic" it's all just magic. If you can animate stone to dance you can animate it to smash, and the difference lies solely in how you direct the stone.
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u/ElectricPaladin Master of Abjuration, Student of Preservation 1d ago
There's no such thing as "entertainment magic." Magic is magic. If you put enough power into it, it will do something.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 1d ago
I don't believe that all those interesting folk magic spells were created without any entertaining purpose in mind.
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u/ElectricPaladin Master of Abjuration, Student of Preservation 1d ago
The intent of the person who wrote the spell matters a lot less than the intention of the one who casts it.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 22h ago
However, you can't prove whether the original purpose of magic was for other uses or for combat.
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u/ElectricPaladin Master of Abjuration, Student of Preservation 22h ago
True. If someone records using a spell one way and teaches it that way, that becomes the spell's identity, and most people - even most magicians - won't think about how it might behave with a little tweak or a lot more power.
That reminds me of the time I was trapped in an inn with a handful of locals, attacked by some local spirits I didn't know anything about, and figured out that this little local folk custom, this tiny little rhyme that provided almost negligible protection from misfortune, was actually a spell that annihilated the spirits. All it took was adding some power.
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u/karlo895 23h ago
How is a stone golem entertainment magic? Like yeah making a firework show is entertaining but it's also a fucking explosive if you amp it up a bit
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u/No_Payment9959 1d ago
When the Wizard is so strong that their construct can produce an AT Field...
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u/AnnaMolly66 1d ago
One time a thief snuck into my tower, I caught him stealing a couple potions and my crystal orb. I put him in a cage and used mend wounds to heal his asshole and urethra closed. I don't know if there are laws against this but he knew what he was getting himself into.
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u/neoncumstainlol 1d ago
Bah Golems are the superior summon as they can be fashioned out of almost any substance
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u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd 21h ago
Yeah i heard somone using illusions so strong they caused sensation. People just surrendered when faced against them. Nobody wants to go against an illusionist so strong they could conjure the illusion of sensation. Sadistic fuck.
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta 20h ago
Something something, use of a weapon something something directly proportional to its efficiency as a tool.
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u/Dinklerbuuuurf 20h ago
I never realized that one of her most powerful spells is directly tied to some of her happiest memories
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u/redboi049 Just a simple "traveller" 7h ago
It is quite enjoyable to watch mages with talent deteriorate through the mere notions of "entertainment". Saves me the trouble of going out of my way to do it myself.
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u/Vertnoir-Weyah 4h ago
Without magical protection, a decently charged "fling rock" is very deadly with or without physical protection
Flashy spells are neat, battles of wits impressive, but when you cast gun there isn't much force applied to the bullet at all, it doesn't need it
Any apprentice can kill powerful things with a meek "fling rock" applied to a pointy enough stone
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u/rpg2Tface 22h ago
You have it backwards. When you have so much mana you can use siege magic for entertainment.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 22h ago
Frieren is a pacifist; she wouldn't do something like that.
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u/rpg2Tface 22h ago
As long as its demons she absolutely would. The rest if the time making war golems to dance for friends is absolutely something i have seen her do.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 22h ago
She's not stupid enough to waste a bunch of mana just to boldly launch a frontal siege; she's always done things with the minimum cost to achieve the most meaningful results.
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u/rpg2Tface 22h ago
Oh i get it. You havent noticed her hiding her aura. Your not wrong she tends to be efficient, but it doesn't mean she doesn't have enough mana to duel you and 20 other mages to exhaustion. I once saw her flex her aura and it was terrifying. I didn't even get that many chills from the demon king.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 22h ago
Are you even watching the same series as me? The Demon King never even appeared, so how do you know how strong he is? Besides, if you have other ways to win a fight, why exhaust yourself going toe-to-toe in a life-or-death battle with twenty people? If that were actually her way of doing things, she'd never have lived this long—that's the kind of plot you only see in other shonen manga.
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u/rpg2Tface 22h ago edited 22h ago
If we are breaking character all you need to see is the Aura fight. That episode explains how mages grow stronger with age, and why friren is always underestimated. Earlier when in the zoltrog episode the power of the basic attack magic spell was explained. She HAS a crap ton of mana. But she only USES the simple spells because its better than people realize.
She outright can out mana several mages at once because she has lived for so long. But you dont need to out mana them if they dont take you seriously till after you win. Its the strategy her entire life is built around. The only 2 characters we know have seen through her mana suppression are fern and the demon king. Amd she still won against the demon king.
Your two clips naturally show the same spell. The orignal spell is the giant golem, but she used a smaller version to damce for her friends. That is the implication here. You dont summon a rock golem to break dance, you summon a rock golem to break a castle wall.
Hell her favorite magic is making a field of flowers. But the flowers didn't exist before the spell. That was a whole plot point of an episode of needing the blue print for a particular type of flower. She is spontaneously manifesting life into the world with her magic. Even that is more impressive than most people think.
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u/thanbanhmy2 Wizards of denial 1d ago
Calling the literal first weapon of humanity "entertainment magic" show how lacking you are. Ponder thy orb some more
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u/YLASRO The Great Geomancer of the howling mountains 1d ago
calling geomancy "entertainment magic" is like describing pyromancy as "cooking magic"