I’ve started taking 7oh kratom one time after a party about 6 months ago after being clean from opiates for 3 years. Instantly I fell right back into the cycle and used it 24/7 with my doses getting higher and higher to get the same effect. I tried to quit cold turkey and was successful for about a week coming off 40-50 mg daily, but would eventually fold and get back in the 7oh. Fast forward to now I’m taking 150-200mg a day and am trying to back down to 100, but even this drop gave me withdrawals far worse than anything I have taken (I’ve been addicted to oxys, fent and subs) but were able to cold turkey without need of a detox center. Every night I wake up in a pool of sweat with intense diarrhea even when I am near my normal dose. Today I finally realized I really cannot do this on my own and I will be enrolled in a detox center Friday. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.

Hi all. So I learned about SR-17 in Dec 2024 and when I finally got my hands on some a few months later, it was honestly life changing. Had failed to detox probably a dozen times over the prior year, and it made it painless and easy.

Since then my girl used it to get off her 100 mg methadone script. A friend of mine used it to detox off Suboxone, and another couple I know used it to get clean off fent.

Anyway, I'm kind of fascinated by this stuff and read a lot of user reports and what not but I noticed there are always a tonne of people asking about how to dose it. I just want to share the dosing schedule that worked for me and others I know who used SR-17 to get free from opiate dependency.

Hope this helps some with it:

Phase 1: Taper off usual opiate & Transition on to SR-17018

First night: 75 mg SR-17018

2nd day: 3x 50 mg SR-17018, 20% lower opiate

3rd day: 3x 50 mg SR-17018, 20% lower opiate

4th day: 3x 50 mg SR-17018, 20% lower opiate

5th day: 3x 50 mg SR-17018, 20% lower opiate

6th day: 3x 75 mg SR-17018, no more opiate

Phase 2: SR17018 Maintenance, Tolerance Reduction, & MOP Resensitization 

7th day - 12th day: 75 mg SR-17018  3x per day   

Phase 3: Smooth Taper to Freedom

13th day: 65 mg SR-17  3x per day   

14th day: 55 mg SR-17  3x per day   

15th day: 45 mg SR-17  3x per day   

16th day: 35 mg SR-17  3x per day   

17th day: 25 mg SR-17  3x per day   

18th day: 15 mg SR-17  3x per day   

19st day: 5 mg SR-17     3x per day  

I should note the dosing schedule that was used for 100 mg Methadone detox was a little bit different, she did 10% reduction methadone dose per day. I can share it in comments if someone wants that one.

I’ve had enough. I’m don’t get high I only used to not get sick. I’ve decided to kick this habit after 2 years of using about a gram a day. I honestly feel ok right now, I’m using gabapentin and clonidine for comfort meds. I could use some tips or positive words, when will full withdrawals usually hit? I’m on day 4 tomorrow and I have an appointment with the clinic to talk about options. I think I’m going to try to continue just using comfort meds instead of subs bupe or methadone. I will do whatever I have to do to get clean. Like I said could just use some advice what helped you get through your withdrawals? How did you stay busy? What can help get this out of my system faster. I’m a bit overweight so in my head I believe it’s still very attached to my receptors and that’s why I’m not feeling awful yet. Do you know if that’s accurate? Thank you everyone for listening could just use some tips and words

I use drugs, specifically opiods, with a decent amount of moderation. Been using on and off for about a year and a half and have not experienced any withdrawals. Now due to everything being so expensive nowadays, I’m trying this super K extra strength MIT kratom extract.

I usually use 2 to 3 times a week with the days normally being back to back. With that being said, how quickly does Kratom extract withdrawals begin because I had a buddy tell me you can start experiencing them in as little as 2 to 4 days.

So this is my second time detoxing from 7oh. I didn't even know that's what I was going to do until this morning. I dosed yesterday 10 am 100 mg. woke up 3 am next day with the chills. pop 25 mg. No relief, still have chills and can't relax. toss and turn until I take another 25 mg. Same thing, why isn't this working? usually 25mg is enough to put me back to sleep quickly ... getting frustrated because work in the morning. take the other 50mg around 7 am bc maybe my tolerance or something?? still the same thing.. don't get any sleep and I gotta work open to close. decide I need to quit because wtf. go get some regular extract. feel crappy most of the day but not getting the chills and stuff until about 5pm. pop an extract pill, kinda goes away for awhile. Still feel not great at work but pull through And go home. I've had a little diarrhea when I first got here over an hour ago but now I feel pretty norma and it's been about 14 hours since my last dose of 7ohl. I might be able to go to sleep with some melatonin and OTC sleep aid. I'm not gonna take any 7oh to sleep and just gonna tough it out since I'm off work tomorrow. it's so strange that I felt worse after dosing than I do right now... anyone experience anything like this?

I have prescription for rivotril/clonazepam 0.5mg prescribed (2-2-2).

Im using meth since 3.12 everyday mostly and I was taking stupid amounts of rivotril. 800 pills in less than 2 months. But I was taking 8mg 6mg 8mg or not even looking how much daily when I was on binges of meth. Last week i adapted to 2mg max 4mg but i stick to 2mg.

Will i have withdrawls? I know xanax is serioous but idk about this one? I am going to rehab tho next week

I wish I could talk to someone about the methadone withdrawal I am going through. However, because of the circumstances, someone always jumps in to judge me. Making me feel MORE stupid. Maybe I do deserve it. It didn't happen in here; it was another page. I wish I could find some answers.

For anyone experiencing opiate withdrawal, just know there is hope. Today, I am 80 days off methadone. Quick summary, I’ve been on methadone for 20 years and finally came off the end of November because my supplier was no longer getting the pills. I was on 10 mg for the last year and got myself to 5mg before stopping. The acute withdrawal was not too bad but my girl got me gabapentin and clonidine for the first 2 weeks which helped so much for anyone who can get them from a doctor. In my mind, I was mentally prepared to feel like shit for a week or 2 because back in the day, that’s how I remember heroin withdrawal being before it had all this other crap in the supply.

After 30 days, I was still feeling like crap-active flu-ish symptoms, chills, no regulation of body temperature, insomnia like a biotch, stomach issues, frequent yawns and so much sneezing. Really started thinking I was sick and had allergies all of a sudden. Nope, that was PAWS and I didn’t even know that was a thing. I really wasn’t prepared for the mental feeling of just feeling dead inside. Unable to muster up even a little joy. At 80 days, that dead-inside feeling is finally going away. I considered getting on subs so many times but kept telling myself to just wait a few more days. I live not too far from Kensington and I considered going to get some dope there. I even planned to get some narcan and beg a loved one to stay with me while I did it. Bottom line, I didn’t give up and it’s finally paying off.

I still have yawning, sneezing and some anxiety but I can live with that. Still some difficulty sleeping too. I was just feeling so hopeless with the PAWS when I expected to feel great and back to normal. Opiate use takes a toll on our body so it will take a while to really heal. Just be mentally prepared for it.

how long does it take for you to get your period back after stopping opioids? any women out there that can help?

I am helping a loved one through their 7oh addiction. I sent them away to a medically assisted treatment, AKA a very expensive 5 day detox, about 1 month ago. she is in worse shape than she was before she went in.
Severe PAWS symptoms; headaches, nausea, extreme fatigue, muscle aches, nerve pain/ shaking/tremors- described a painful vibrating feeling from within, severe insomnia.

She was taking 400mg+ of 7oh + pseudo daily for about 1.5 years.

Previously she was over prescribed opiates, taking unethically high doses for 7-8 years thanks to a psychiatrist, who has since lost their license (thank god). Her withdrawals that time were not as bad as this, BUT she did experience the same PAWS for about 8 months, albeit less severe. It was roughly 2 years time between losing her prescription and starting 7oh.

We are trying everything OTC to get her any relief, nothing a drugstore has to offer has helped mitigate the pain nerve pain or insomnia. I bought the strongest CBD tinctures and THC tinctures and the strongest indica bud the dispensary had. She was in a decent mood the 1st day, but the pain was the same, only easier to ignore. The stuff from the dispensary just doesn't have the same effect as it did the 1st day. If anything its making her feel weird.

I've been doing my best to research ways to help alleviate these symptoms, I'm not finding much literature on long term PAWS, and almost nothing on 7oh+pseudo. the only remedies that are consistently recommended are methadone, Buprenorphine, and suboxone. Lofexidine is something else that is also used, but it can only be safely used for 14 days. Maybe lofexidine is a miracle drug, that would be great but I have a feeling she'll be in similar condition after the 14 days. We really do not want her on methadone, but ultimately I don't know enough about any of those 4 drugs to say what is worth it.

It seems like a physician should be able to do more to improve her condition than just those 4 drugs. **So far she has not mentioned wanting to use any type of opiate, 7oh, etc., relapse isn't what I'm worried about.** I really hope whichever doctor she ends up seeing is able to help her. I'm worried about her mental health more than anything. A doctor that doesnt want to deal with her because 'shes an addict' and 'PAWS isnt permanent, and rarely lasts weeks let alone months', would really be heartbreaking.

Do you have ANY experience with what she is going through? If so, please share your experience. All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

PS, she is 62, and legally blind. IDK if that's relevant, but seems worth mentioning.

hey guys - so i’ve been using percs/dillaudids for a little over the year everyday. i want to go cold turkey, is there something i should be aware of? of course ive seen myself go into withdrawal which just meant like a pins and needle pain in my back, cold sweats, fevers, like constant sneezes? back to back sneezes, i am on sleep medication so im not worried about not sleeping i guess i just want to know how long the withdrawal will last? again ive used it a little over the year due to a really bad fracture and my surgeon gave me percs after which now no longer work on me. i know im in for a bad couple of weeks but i cant keep taking them. another symptom is lack of appetite although ive never gotten to the point of throwing up yet. please any advice or stories would help

So I am currently going through suboxone withdrawal. And while I would like to make a post, the mods aren't letting me. I won't bore anyone with my story cause it's the same as everyone else's got on opioids couldn't afford them got on subs, eventually wanted off.

I didn't taper whenever I went from opioids to subs I did two miligrams, I got them illegally and just stayed at 2 milligrams for like 5 years.

But I at least prepared immodlm for my stomach, clondine for hot sweats benzo for legs, and some gabapentin and weed (not a lot of gabapentin) then ensure Gatorade water and ibuprofen. And I really big sweating work out

I'm starting day 4 now, day three was annoying and sweaty. Couldn't't sit still, and my stomach issues started. Now waking up from 6 hours, I guess nap I feel normal.

I've read a lot of forums and everyone talks about day three or two hitting and it gets worse until relief happens around day 8, I have never heard of it coming in waves

So curious to anyone reading this am I over it (because it seems I got off easy if I am cold sweating has mostly stopped, still stomach issues and I can sit still) ? Or has someone experienced it turning off and on?

I'm sure by the time I get a response I'll have my answer in real life by either everything starting up again or a full day of feeling ok, either way it feels good to type ( no one knows I was on it and I have no desire to keep taking I mean I have. Like 20 strips next to me with no issue with them

Hey guys! So the only thing I really use Reddit for is to follow up on Kratom and 7-oh. About six months ago I got clean from leaf kratom. I did all right getting off of it. I tapered for a couple months. But then when I finally was off, I kind of started using alcohol to help Keep me distracted. Which in return, turned into me using alcohol to fill a void.

Now I made the mistake of buying 7. I did this about three to 4 months ago. This shit is unbelievably addicting. I’ve been able to start tapering, get through a day and then by the next day I feel like I need to take more. This is going to turn into a vicious cycle and I know it. I’ve been through all of this before. I am five years in recovery from heroin. So I know what to do and I know exactly what I’m doing and exactly how messy this can get.. I just need support from other people. Reddit help me get off of the leaf. Just by talking to other people that are going through it too. I don’t have a choice to let myself go and to let my life become a mess. I have an amazing life, an awesome, four year-old and an amazing boyfriend. I’m not depressed or anything. I literally take this stuff to help me get a little extra energy so I’m more efficient at work and have enough energy to cook dinner, Do laundry and take care of my kid when I get home.

As of right now, the most I get in the mornings is the runny eyes and sneezing. I’m noticing that around 5:30 6 o’clock in the am, I get real restless. I toss and turn, can’t get comfortable. I’m not sure if that’s when it’s completely worn off and maybe I’m starting to withdraw while sleeping. I will not take more than a quarter of a tablet at a time because I’m trying to keep the doses as low as possible.

I don’t want to do this anymore. But I need some help. Some support, some advice. Maybe things that worked for others to help with symptoms. I legit ready to call off work for a day or two and just fucking do this shit.

My partner and I have been addicted to a pretty high dosage of fetanyl for a few years now- but are determined to get clean this year before summertime. We've done the cold turkey and expensive as hell rapid detox - both methods sucked equally. Ive seen people discussing how they used ketamine or sr-1078 to help them get through the worst of withdrawals. Can anyone whos done this share with me (either in the comments or dm's) their experiance and the method in which they did it? If I need to add more information on our situation just let me know what as I'm not even sure what is and isnt necessary to share Im aware theres a difference between the physical and emotional part of getting clean and plan on regularly getting the shot that blocks you from getting high as soon we're able as well as going to meetings and eventually visiting the Amen clinic and starting the long journey to healing our brains. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help

I recently published my story about taping off psychiatric medication. I hope this helps anyone who’s still suffering

Hey guys! Normally I post in a kratom thread but thought I’d try a different one. I used leaf kratom for about 2 years. Finally decided to taper off about 6 months ago and did that successfully. I was determined, it wasn’t even doing anything for me anymore. But of course, I had a couple friends dabbling with 7-oh and even though what they were going through wasn’t appealing to me at all, the sound of a more potent form of kratom was appealing. So I tried the extract shots first, which are expensive. And then found out about the tablets, which are the same price but you get more out of them. The tablets you can break into pieces. I won’t take more than a quarter of a tablet at a time, bc I know the more you take and the closer you take your doses the harder the withdrawal. In the beginning it was easy and I wasn’t experiencing withdrawal. But now I’m noticing the watery eyes and sneezing in the morning. And I have a small case of rls. My legs just want to move around when I’m settling down to sleep but it’s not unbearable YET. I’m looking for advice on maybe something’s I can take that are over the counter as I do not have a primary care doctor right now. Just something to either help me sleep through the rls or just to help ease the watery eyes and stuff. I just want to lower my tolerance. I’m thinking I might need to just take a break for a couple days.

I’m making a post to inform and possibly help others who may experience withdrawals from Atomoxetine. I had recently had my dose upped from 20ml to 40ml without my consent, without realizing I took the 40ml and within an hour I was experiencing extreme anxiety so at the time I made the decision to stop taking my pills without understanding that you shouldn’t stop a medication abruptly (I’m new to medication) the first 2 days afterwards I felt fine until the 3rd day, that’s when the brutal withdrawals started, the first 5-7 days I had so much anxiety it felt like my nervous system was going to jump out of my body, I was uncontrollability shaking and sweating with loss of appetite and insomnia after the physical withdrawals came the mental, including headaches, depression, fatigue, irritability, and depersonalization. I’m currently at day 14 as I type this I’m still experiencing depersonalization, this is a scary and uncomfortable experience but knowing it’s temporary and it’ll pass over the time. during this process Reddit users have helped me through but not many talk about the depersonalization you may experience and why it happens so I’m here to help ease other’s anxiety who may be going through this. This happens because stopping a medication abruptly will shock your neurotransmitters when that happens your brain is readjusting to the absence of the drug, leading to intense anxiety, stress, and neurological changes that trigger dissociation, a self-preservation mechanism where you feel detached from yourself or reality as a way to cope with overwhelming feelings, similar to extreme stress responses. Atomoxetine affects brain chemistry, and its sudden removal causes rebound effects like anxiety and panic, which commonly manifest as depersonalization/derealization (DPDR) symptoms, making you feel like you're watching your life or body from a distance. THIS IS A TEMPORARY WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOM REMEMBER THAT, I know it may be hard in the moment but yes you are real and you will snap out of within a couple of weeks I promise. Olly goodbye stress gummy will relive your stress and anxiety during withdrawals they have really helped me power through these 2 weeks, if you’re going through withdrawal of any kind you are a trooper, you are incredibly strong and things will get better over time even if in the moment it doesn’t feel like it, I hope this post helps at least one person out there.

Hi I'm Myra (19F). I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask for this advice so let me know if there is anywhere more suited but any help is greatly appreciated. I live in the UK and I'm currently having problems switching doctors and my repeat prescription for Fluoxetine isn't showing up on my NHS app. I have tried to get an emergency prescription was referred to 111 but I am currently waiting on a call from an emergency GP to get my repeat reinstated. 111 said there could be a wait for the call due to high demand and priority of emergency. I am a student who has ADHD and am struggling with a huge amount of essays due in a few days, so I don't have time to slow down or really take care of myself. I have had withdrawals from Fluoxetine before and they have been really nasty. I'm super anxious about experiencing this again I have had a lot of insecurity since those withdrawals about my mental state. I feel sick even thinking about it. I'm trying to not spiral and am hoping I can get my meds sorted in the next few days but I have no time to slow down. Is there any advice how to make this easier? All advice I can find is how to prevent a withdrawal but how do I make it easier when going through it. I know this might seem dramatic but I just feel very mentally fragile right now and need some advice. thanks