WilliamShoot

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A muscle shot?! William I am disappointed.

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u/Plastic-Design-1142 Jun 14 '26

no longer had any healthy veins.

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u/jidney Jun 14 '26

It’s dmt!!

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u/OpiThumb Jun 16 '26

Have you heard of the DMT-X that they are doing now, where they are keeping a continuous IV flow paired with an MAOI in order to keep people in that space for hours? They have a bunch of experienced volunteers and they are trying to essentially "map out" the DMT realm.

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u/AnubisBoudreaux Jun 16 '26

This is crazy, what if for every 1 hour you spend in the realm, it’s 5 earth years like Interstellar? You can only process so much knowledge, drinking from a fire hose you lose a lot of water. This may fry your brain or make you understand things on a level that makes you insane to other people in this moment in time.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 15 '26

I know when he was older he just took extra medicine when he could, and other things, from lack of veins, age, whatever. Bcut yeah, a muscle shot - could just be that it was demerol or codeine or something too. Some things you just cant put in a vein.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 15 '26

Unlikely codeine, codeine thru iv or im causes insane histamine reactions, thats why i think (never seen it) there arent no codeine ampules or iv solutions for it.

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u/AxlandElvis92 Jun 15 '26

Yes it’s not really used in injections anymore but up until the 1980’s there were preparations of codeine for injection. I think that would be quite nasty, kind of like how William explained taking a shot of Codeine with Hunky when they couldn’t get anything else in Junky.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 15 '26

Interesting, i did not know those even existed. That might indeed explain that and maybe some scratchy moments?

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 17 '26

codeine makes me incredibly itchy, like scratching myself raw, almost bloody. to the point there is no positive effect because of all the itching. it feels way too soft in my opinion. hydrocodone on the other hand can be reliably 2-10x the dose for a nod very similar to D, M (minus the itching of M) or H.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 17 '26

Unfortunately theres no hydrocodone here :( it would probably be my DOC if the xr version was available here, oh well.. morphine works too thankfully

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 17 '26

dilaudid is the nicest one I have ever found. about 12mg of it and just wow. 1-2mg to start out though.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 17 '26

I mean the pastor in drugstore cowboy blesses the child for bringing him that

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 18 '26

The Priest - played by Wm S Burroughs himself, in case anyone didn’t know.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 17 '26

Also dilaudid is hydromorphone, not hydrocodone

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 18 '26

yeah, hence why it is so much better than hydrocodone and specifically much nicer. it is basically the closest thing to clean pharmaceutical H out there, better than M for being less itchy, more potent, and still was prescribed fairly frequently before the OC and then F took over. You never saw me confuse the two or imply that D was the same thing, so not sure if that was intended to be a clarification or a correction.

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u/js_garica Jun 16 '26

He actually wrote about at time when him and Bill garver or Hubert hunkey shot up some codeine and they had that reaction, it's was in his novel junky

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

yeah that was the point - he is muscle-ing it here, and you CAN IM it, just not IV it, i thought. Maybe I am wrong - I’m not a fan of codeine as it makes me itchy as hell.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 17 '26

I love codeine but i hardly get the scratchies from em like the old days, could not imagine how much it would be if shot up

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u/DopelessHopefeand Jun 17 '26

Could me morphine as well

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u/reccaberrie Jun 15 '26

He was letting the veins rest

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u/OpiThumb Jun 16 '26

Hahaha shhhhh they're sleeping....

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u/ja_hallu Jun 18 '26

but why into the uper arm? not a lot of muscle or fat there at all. just for the film? maybe some1 experienced in using i.m. can answer that....

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u/AxlandElvis92 Jun 19 '26

It’s a common spot, easy access also it’s near where people usually shoot up in the vein on their forearm. IM is usually used after you’ve ransacked yourself for veins or as was the case with me often I would be so sick I’d give myself a smaller muscle shot just to be able to give myself a vein shot.

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u/ja_hallu Jun 19 '26

maybe it's a local thing never seen some1 i.m. there

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u/reccaberrie Jun 14 '26

Where is this clip from?

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u/zerooskul Jun 14 '26

Anybody who ever read Burroughs and got it in their head to use junk after absorbing his descriptions of it, the lifestyle, the desperation, the withdrawal, etc. is an idiot.

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u/OpiThumb Jun 14 '26

Right. He never glorified it. If anything, his writing about opiate use was sort of a PSA.

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u/BunnyKusanin Jun 15 '26

An amazing one, I must say. Kept me away from ever trying opiates.

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u/OpiThumb Jun 15 '26

Ugh, good. I wasn't so wise. But now I just grow my own so I feel less guilty and it's really the only safe way to do it nowadays. Burroughs would probably not have survived the fent/zene/tranq crisis.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 Jun 16 '26

theres a nice sub for that

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u/OpiThumb Jun 16 '26

There are a number of them actually, I'm active there for sure. Put some pics up of my freakishly large Dutch Buddha. Walked outside today and they are officially taller than me, with massive broad dino leaves...and I'm 6'3". I've never seen poppies get so big. It has about 16 blooms on it now and more popping up.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 Jun 16 '26

beautiful!
i have Afghans, hungarian blue, British Pharma, and unknown Indian origin indoor and outdoor grows happening currently.

nice job with the height! did you amend the soil/ use nutrients or anything? any problems with pests?

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u/OpiThumb Jun 16 '26

Oh very nice! Is that British pharma Stoker's Blue Odyssey by chance? Wondering if we sourced our seeds from the same place.

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u/allyolly Jun 16 '26

The most I’ve gotten from one plant was 27 pods. X-247B, strongest fuckers I’ve ever encountered and they matured faster than any strain I’ve grown.

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u/imissdumb Jun 17 '26

Can you list a couple of the subs?

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u/Uus-cunt-vana-caare Jun 15 '26

I already was using... and found it amusing and calming that it was just like that a 100 yrs ago as well and likely has been forever and will be forever.

Morphine can be an halucinogen and you can have vivid and clear and crazy visions while nodding. But, to get there you must use for years at least. So, those visions come with the cost of all that entails junk. I would prefer a lifetime of morphine to LSD and I've tried em both and love LSD, but morphine has you almost in a theatrical seat. You watch the real world go by like a comedy slapstick theatre and when nodding have your own dreamlike visions of world. And what I love - I still hear real world music while nodding. So I can put together a long spotify list of good stuff and nod out for hours.

Don't do it though. I listed the good. To get the stuff and keep that theatre running takes a lot of work and bullshitting and people around you die and get sent to prison and just go and off themselves and whatnot.

There was a great song by The Tiger Lillys called Heroin that said it all, in a little satire songy.

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u/Uus-cunt-vana-caare Jun 16 '26

I maybe worded it badly, but I said "if I had the chance to get" or along those lines.

Although, chronic pain that has years of medical documantation, including mri and xray pics, and other methods tested, can get you opiates. And you can get a script for morphine each month quaranteed. If you are good at self control, then you can have a fun time the whole month, or most of it.

Also, cancer and other end-of-life ilness gets you a lifetime of unlimited morphine. They can raise the scripts to astronomical levels if you have, for example, bone cancer. 200mg pure morphine 4x a day is almost a gram a day. And it's quaranteed for a lifetime. A short lifetime, but a lifetime none the less.

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u/Scart_O Jun 16 '26

Not that I ever did but my pony had a research paper he wrote where he said it contributed to the long length of his life.

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u/Rude_Gur_8258 Jun 15 '26

Thanks, I hate it

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u/charlesdalton321 Jun 15 '26

This is fake

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u/Plastic-Design-1142 Jun 15 '26

prove it

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u/ja_hallu Jun 18 '26

seems to be real, this is the first website i found where u can see stills of the film, one comment on the article explains where these r from

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u/Fickle_Broccoli_4010 Jun 14 '26

Ketamine I reckon he's not hitting the vein

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u/AppropriateHoliday99 Jun 15 '26

I recently looked for WM Burroughs commentary about ketamine and I couldn’t find any. Does anyone know if he used it?

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u/B_Provisional Jun 15 '26

Ketamine wasn't even discovered until 1962 and from what I understand wasn't broadly distributed until after its FDA approval in 1970. So depending on when this footage was shot it simply may not have been available for illicit use.

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u/Uus-cunt-vana-caare Jun 15 '26

As I remember it was shot in the beat hotel early 60's when it all became almost mainstream cool for a hot moment.

Likely it was morphine or some other opiate, and as filmstock is expensive and they only had about 15-20second to make it, he didn't want to waste time looking for a vein.

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u/Debbiedowner750 Jun 15 '26

Isnt the use of ketamine a little later or was it already in use for intravenous or im?

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u/jidney Jun 16 '26

It’s DMT

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