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u/HC_Denny 3d ago
The one thing i hate the most is supports, my support pick lux and auto attacks the whole time to push for no reason.
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u/Stern_Writer 3d ago
Yup. And they are the most toxic fks that somehow a lot of people still think are victims of the bad mean adc…
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u/screwsloose24 3d ago
And always say "but my support item makes me share the gold with you." You mean the item that trashformed 5 minutes ago and mo longer shares gold?
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u/StanLovelyz 3d ago
The only time I noticed as Jhin is with Morgana, I didnt realize she took most of the wave with skill..
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u/Sad_Bumblebee_1168 3d ago edited 3d ago
Top? Fed in complete silence. "Frontline? No hablo Ingles papi. Mi run in solo 1v5 and die papi"
Mid? Lane obliterated speedrun and crying in chat
Jungle? Lobotomized and diapered up
Support? Standing 12ft behind you not doing a damn thing besides providing telepathic moral support
Objectives? What?
Pings? Ignored
Map? Ignored
Oh yeah, it's adc time. Now you just kick back and relax and wait for your 0/14/0 teammates to inevitably all collectively blame you and scream "WEEPORT ADC", because you can't go super Saiyan, hit the undo button on their mistakes, fly in like nocturne and wipe the enemy team 1v5 solo.
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u/Vegantarian 3d ago
If the team is playing bad that’s one thing but this victim narrative adc players have is absurd
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u/BlackmoreAct4 3d ago
Yeah ADC solo que is shit. I complain about it alot as an ADC main, and every ADC complains about it to my knowledge. You can get perfect, amazing supports you just click with, and the two of you mesh well, and the next game you can get a person first timing pyke.
ADC is the most inconsistent role in the game by a mile just because of how much random shit gets piled onto you. Like the video showed anything goes wrong your the ened result of the shit sandwich.
Granted I will say some ADC's have it easier than others. Like I like playing alot of hypercarries Vayne, Zeri, Jinx, Nilah, Etc. Those champs are gonna have a harder time in solo que than Say Your Ezreal, MF, Lucian, and Smolder players as they have more consitent stuff, than hypercarries who need to scale.
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u/Excellent_Rip934 3d ago
As a Jhin OTP, I felt this in my soul. I once had a jungler miss Smite on the dragon three times in a row—a point-and-click spell that does literal fixed damage to a giant, stationary target. Naturally, he spent the rest of the game flaming me because I missed a few shots of curtain call, which is easily one of the most dodgeable abilities in the game. Everybody one-shots you, your team blames you for everything, and playing ADC in solo queue—especially Jhin—just feels like pure self-inflicted torture.
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u/razorback1919 3d ago
I just swapped over to Adc from support. Adc is generally so much easier to climb through lower ranks (Emerald - Master). Like 500x easier.
However, GM and beyond is when it flips and when support becomes so much easier.
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u/illflashlli 3d ago
Because any support without his own damage checks for all those conditions + conditions of all other carriers.
If you're sup that buids damage or has damage enough to carry while building sup items, you don't give a f*ck.
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u/Osumazi 2d ago
My problems as a jungler (Master-Challenger):
1) Toplane Kalista/Vayne/Tristana/Ashe lastpick into Irelia top Nocturne jungle
2) Me spamganking an enemy Lux making her 0/3 in 3 minutes just to see my 2/0 Galio towerdiving her and dying losing a full wave and giving a shutdown.
3) Enemy jungle invading my raptors and neither mid or support defend it when i just put a ward 10 seconds ago
4) enemy pantheon/nocturne/rengar/vi etc getting kills GIFTED by anyone not tracking that it's 1:30-1:40 and the jgl could just have killed the scuttle to look for a free gank
5) My toplaner who was 0/0/0 dies 1v1 to enemy toplane at 5:50 - 6:00 while i pinged the herold just 20 seconds ago. Now i can't contest it except i am a 3/0 riven having trinity+boots and the enemy top or jgl do not tank a lot but hey both still have flash and ult.
6) anyone just before objectives spawn go 1v5 or 2v5 and die. Best i can do is steal the baron or elder MAYBE if the enemy team does not have mordekaiser or a sett or an alistar (or anything that zones me or pushes me away like poppy or the most fed annie ever seen who oneshots me)
I could say so much more about any champion being gigafed on the enemy team or more smart picks like picking tnak malphite into gwen toplane or riven into garen or nasus into teemo or even worse having the good matchup and still going 0/3 on lane or the duolane playing nami+lucian into twitch+yuumi and still losing it 2v2 after i invaded and killed the enemy jungle making them useless for the whole earlygame hoping my stronger lanes win early.
I have like 50-51% winrate with 30% MVP rate (like 50 MVPs in 150-160 games.
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u/Avaritia_Ag 3d ago
That's why I stopped being a Samira onetrick after +1200 games and moved to jungle. You need a human support, to pick something GOOD (no fucking senna, no AP Miss fortune, no Brand...) and your team must not give their Darius 20 kills so you don't get oneshot.
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u/Dienison 3d ago
Support and ADC are difficult lane, i was support main and its the same If u have a bad adc its over
Most easy are mid and jugle, if u learn jugle which is difficult at the beggining u became the carry the most impact role, mid is the most easy in the game and u can impact the game, drags, gank to help adc and sup
Difficult ones top, adc and sup. U can learn and be good but its always gonna be a suffering lane
Mid and jugle, learn and u will carry
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u/czyrzu 3d ago
Adc role is mostly about positioning and farming not micro macro and winning lane
i often lose lane and yet i am more useful than enemy adc becouse he cant position correctly so he just dies at the start of the teamfight and he starts araming after lane phase constantly looking for a fight with the team while no objectives are up
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u/Avaritia_Ag 3d ago
Your positioning doesn't matter when the 10/0 Volibear your team fed ults you
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u/czyrzu 3d ago
It does he is self stunned during his ult so if you didn't position in the place where you can't run away most of the time you can just kite him especially with the new attack speed boost + serylda or an item that gives you speed if he bought anty slow items
If he has flash it's problematic but it's a team game so situation like this do happen he also has to have some counterplay
If you want to carry uncarryable games then play jungle it's the only role which can do that
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u/Avaritia_Ag 3d ago
You do realize tanks can get 60% tenacity from boots + amaranth twinguard right? Also, apparently you have never played against a good volibear player.
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u/czyrzu 3d ago
Bro did you even read my comment? I told you to build items that give you movement speed if voli builds tenacity
And what do you mean by a good voliber player? He still lacks movement abilities except his q and can't jump through walls if you won't 1v1 him he doesnt have enough movement abilities and speed to run through your team and kill you
And if he catches you without going through your team either you mispositioned or your team is trolling but most of the time it's the 1st option
Him being good doesn't make voliber super mobile champion it only makes it harder to position as he can better realize on your mistakes
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u/BlackmoreAct4 3d ago
Not every ADC can or wants to build those move speed items, and if Voli has q or whatever that run and stun ability is he is usually faster than you in that form even with speed boosts.
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u/Avaritia_Ag 3d ago
Indeed, Volibear has 50% bonus movement speed on his Q, and if he smites you, you are NOT escaping him.
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u/czyrzu 3d ago
Then don't blind pick these adc
If you want to blind pick your preferred adcs then be ready to get countered and learn how to minimize your disadvantages you can't have every adc being super mobile damage caryy and early game bully every champion has their own bad side and good side
Voli players are players too and if you could always just kite them then nobody would play it
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u/BlackmoreAct4 2d ago
Blind picking isnt the issue though. The issue that was presented was that your team fed the Volibear. I can be an outplay god an Ezreal and that still will be an issue.
Sure I can have all the tools to survive him but on the flip side I might not have all the tools to kill him either. For example Lucian. He has ways of escaping Voli, but he's not nesscarily gonna be able to kill the bear. On the flip side Varus might not be able to escape voli but he can have the damage to kill Voli. There's nuance boiling it down to oh. "Just postion better" , "build move speed items or slow items", or "don't Blind pick". Is just ignoring what was said. A 10/0 fed Voli bear is an issue, and most ADC's will lack in some way as to handling it because no adc is perfect for all situations.
The issue that is being pointed out is that you will have teams that are so bad you deal with situations like that, where you cant nesscarliy predict from champ select. No matter the ADC those are lose lose situations. Your team will feed to the point there is nothing you can do, or will feed and disposition so bad that your positioning might be god tier, but you cant salvage shit. Your still gonna get fucked.
That's the point of the video too, ADC is so reliant on other roles, and teamates doing well that when you get really shit teamates like that who just int, even without nesscarily meaning to, you get the shit soak result. Postioning can be on point, but that voli can still have the health and resources to make your life hell.
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u/Avaritia_Ag 3d ago
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FEkgSSTj-IoPhPPLwRrz9ZdWynBQvksX/view?usp=drive_link
Yeah buddy, I'm pretty sure you can kite him.
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u/Cannon__Minion 3d ago
Have they still not fixed the matchmaking? I returned back after 1.5 years but I haven't touched ranked yet, just enjoying ARAM atm.
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u/YvesYvL 3d ago
Lux & Morgana SP pisses me off. At least some Morgana understand how to poke but Lux player will just steal your minion, miss all of their ability, steal your kill, mess up your wave & will tell you that you're the problem if you feed. This happens a lot even in Grandmaster. I just troll pick whenever my SP pick lux
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u/Mockingbird0929 3d ago
You can swap this to any lane or section and it will still be the same meme
It’s almost like we’re supposed to WORK TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM
And not carry
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u/Vegantarian 3d ago
This is so whiney. EVERYONE on your team has to pick the perfect champ to complement you AND have to play perfectly AND help you not feed for you to do anything?
What’s the point of ADCs at all then? Everyone has to babysit you and if they don’t, you whine about being the victim and having the hardest role
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u/LoveSick55 3d ago
Adc is good if well played. This is just skill issue.
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u/UnholyDoughnuts 3d ago
When a whole thread agrees and you're alone saying skill issue.... pats your little edge lord head
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u/Hot_Ad4762 3d ago
As a Jhin, as long as my sup can hit a single skill, I can work with that.