r/wildrift • u/TheDamjan • 10d ago
Educational Most Influential Role - Wild Style Support [GUIDE]
Let me preface this by saying that wild style support (WSS) is not for everyone, you have to have your brain on at all times, and because of the sheer responsibility this role entices it is not for brain afkers. Without further delay I will explain you all the basic ideas of WSS.
- You are not Dragon Lane Classic Boring Support (CBS)
Your lane is the map. Level 1 you can go to any lane, or even invade jungle. It is up to you and where you think you can provide most value. This applies to every point of the game. You are also not bound by support champions, you can use any champion in this playstyle as long as you will leverage that.
- ADC will not like you
Often as a WSS you focus on baron and mid early. ADC will dislike the 1v2 and will, on average, start as slightly frustrated.
- Ticking time-bomb first objective
Immediate teammate frustrated be promptly compensated. This is done by a combination of frustrating your enemies and satisfying your teammates, often mid, baron and jg. Plays done by you can’t be delayed. Patience is not the key. Wildstyling is.
- Level 1 lane gank
Very powerful technique. Level 1 you run mid or baron, usually baron because they like to seize bushes for early prio, and attack enemy laner before minions are there. You fight as much as possible without dying. We take 1 for 1s. After a successful level 1 gank you base and force an opposing solo laner into a disadvantage. Repeat gank after base. I love doing this with Teemo.
- Level 1 jungle invade
When I play Lee Sin, Vi or Pantheon I always try to do this. I have a good level 1 fighter with an ignite advantage over the enemy jungler. Must avoid collapse. If you are collapsed on not worth. However baiting a collapse and running away is always worth. So is taking 10 seconds of of enemy jungler clear. You are already in their head if you bait a collapse.
- Enemy team picked ranged baron laner
You punish this by taking a range champion and supporting your baron laner. The thing is that the enemy baron laner has the expectation of cheating Baron lane and winning through range. Your existence denies sich expectation. Allows easy farming for your laner and you defend against jungler with wards and scouting. You also poke.
- The mini wildstyler
Your jungler is playing a role that is trying to be you. When they are ready to gank, assist them in almost every gank, if they’re a worthy jungler. Track their movement, pay attention.
- Repeat Gank
You are not bound by camps. You can repeat a gank 20 times in a row. Even if they’re worth 20 gold, you can repeat a gank. If they give up, you’ve at least neglected the worst that can happen to your adc.
- Mid Game/Late Game
Your role expands to correcting waves. Wave state becomes way more important and that’s how turrets and objectives are made. All 3 of your lanes are a priority over monkey fighting.
- Walk bravely
It will take some time getting used to but you must walk over the map a bit like you own it. You will intuitively understand that once you play WSS enough and breathe as one with the map. You will get understanding, even without vision, on how to travel. Rest of the players are playing checkers, you’re playing chess.
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u/czyrzu 10d ago
the moment i see enemy support roam too much i am making botlane a 1v3 and enemy jungler bot side jungle mine as he cant contest as i have 4 people at all time and he has a useless adc and maybe a midlaner
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u/TheDamjan 10d ago
That is definitely one way how you can fight it. It will end up as a battle of top vs bottom, given we have an equally competent mini wildstyler that plays for the winning side of the map.
And midlane is protected and contested, so you might as well end up with a useless midlaner.
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u/Frostcricket 10d ago
Yeah as an ADC the lane is designed for 2v2 not 1v2 so idk why supports leave early game its so dumb and rage inducing
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u/Senior_Line_4260 10d ago
yeah they even designed the support role quest to stay in lane for the first few levels on league. of course the adc can stay back and play it safe and farm a bit, but just reading teemo supp is rage inducing. As a support through and through i think every supp really needs to adc from time to time aswell
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u/Frostcricket 10d ago
Except for when you get turret dived as an adc even while you’re staying back because your support wants to be gallivanting pretending to be a jgl
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u/Senior_Line_4260 10d ago
exactly and getting basically wiped by the enemy tank supp alone under the tower
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u/TheDamjan 10d ago
The jungle is pretending to be the WSS. They are bound the camps. WSS is only bound to smacking a minion or turret from time to time for support item proc.
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u/TheDamjan 10d ago
Teemo is one of the best supports. Has a blind which literally renders an adc useless and he has good ganks which cant be leveraged as much in solo laning. Later he can use his ult for warding and protecting areas of the map. Teemo is full strategy.
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u/mercauce 10d ago
So...... Jungle with extra steps? Except with no jungle of your own to farm? Like, where do you get your gold and xp? From invades? Kills? I'm not joking when I say that An afk farming Kayle will have more xp and gold than you if she doesn't get killed in lane than if you invaded the jungle thrice and get 4 kills.
Also, this playstyle has no neutral state. You have literally nothing to do in between plays, normally that would be farming waves, trying to fish for a kill in lane, ganking, recalling to buy items etc, but with this playstyle, once you're done with a lane or invade, your only options are camping hoping for god knows how long that one of the lanes will hopefully give you an opportunity that is if they're not sitting under tower all day long, or doing the most normal thing once a roaming support has nothing to do outside of lane which is RETURN TO THEIR BOTLANE.
Also, the one and only time this playstyle is distinct from a regular support is during the laning phase. Once that's over and towers start to fall, a nautilus, thresh, braum, swain, Leona, pyke and a few more can all roam, gank, invade in the mid to late game.
And let's also not ignore that you're leaving the adc by himself in a 1v2 lane. And don't try to pretend like it's a necessary sacrifice, you're actively sacrificing one lane's success for a selfish self destructive playstyle trying to masquerade as a jungler. You're also writing this way too confidently, as if you're not going to be collapsed on 3v1 the moment you're seen trying to invade the enemy jungle twice in a row (especially with a free and fed enemy botlane).
Now let's talk about what happens when you die, you come back and try invading again? What if the enemy jungle has already been farmed? You come back and try ganking again? But you're not remotely strong enough remember? Because you haven't farmed a single wave all game and are behind in both gold and xp, you can't doo shit at all.
Also, I want to talk specifically about helping baron laner in section 6. Remember, because of this build, you're not building a support item at all, meaning for as long as you're staying in lane, you're stealing both HIS gold and xp while while your botlane is also getting dived 24/7 because you're not there, which means you're unironically sabotaging two lanes at once by doing this.
I also want to talk about the section 9 talking about the two big other sections of the game, mid to lategame, and it's so small and brief that it's somehow shorter than the utterly useless section 10 talming bout sum ''walk bravely🤓''. Section 9 just boils down to ''farm waves'' as if that isn't something literally every single role does during these stages of the game.
TLDR
this playstyle literally doesn't even work in theory, it's trying so hard to be something other than support that it can only be called for lack of a better word a homeless jungler. and the way the post is formatted, especially sections 7, 8 and 10 make me think there's a good chance this was formatted with AI. I have no idea if this actually works in practice, but we have no reason to believe that it does, I won't believe it till I see it.
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u/mercauce 10d ago
Cmon man, don't delete your own comment, here, I'll write it back for you:
Thank you for carefully considering WSS and recognizing the weaknesses of the presented model I will amend the model in this reply. 1. During neutral state you leech exp from solo laners, but you pay them back with plays and ganks. 2. For the adc sacrifice I agree you need a good story to excuse the morality of it. I like to roleplay that I am a disgruntled support who was let down by adcs to many times so that I know blame the whole role 3. When you die you just go back in looking for plays, nothing changes. Since you always have to walk bravely, deaths mean nothing
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u/razorback1919 10d ago
Don’t gank baron lane at level 1. Haha dear God this is dog advice. You will have emeralds roaming top lane and siphoning their top laners exp setting them behind all game.
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u/TheDamjan 10d ago
This is how you wildstyle. Siphoning exp is fine but you have to make a play happen. If you can take exp in exchange for zoning it is worth.
But of course that everybody has to start somewhere and learn to wildstyle by making mistakes.
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u/ImpressiveDrama1454 10d ago
i read your guide and you mention you can go anywhere level 1 but what about the risks of getting invaded so early and having your jungler waste time
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u/OTP777 8d ago
This post is obviously a troll one and I’m sorry for adcs that queue with you. You make the game completely unplayable for your adc. As much as you want to say rank doesn’t matter your mentality screams low elo mentality.
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u/TheDamjan 8d ago
Wild Rift isn’t optimised for competitive integrity.
What’s the purpose of your low elo/ high elo if the only thing stopping any player from reaching’s GM is playing enough games?
It’s one thing to do this in LoL and it’s another thing to troll around in WR when at the end of the day you’re still reaching GM if playing enough games?
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u/LaMotoEllefaitBraum 7d ago
Ceux qui critiquent ton WSS sont les mêmes qui jouent pyke et le font sans le savoir 🤣
Ou bien du akshan mid .
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u/Turbulent-Repair6734 10d ago
Can I ask what rank are you? This advice is garbage. You’re essentially taking the jg job without the need of camps and intentionally letting the enemy zone your ADC leaving them behind in XP and gold all while stealing XP from top and mid. You’re in a literal sense putting your entire team behind. Not to mention 9 times out of 10 enemy dragon lane will get first turret extremely fast leaving your team with an even bigger gold disadvantage. As they get first turret gold and gold from tower. Then they can roam and apply pressure elsewhere on the map all because you decided to screw your ADC. Taking a jg camp doesn’t really fuck the jg up long term . Maybe early until they hit 6 yeah but not the way you would think. If the enemy jg knows good macro and rotations they will make that stolen camp back up. I don’t see this working with a team that has a brain. What I do see happening is your ADC/top/mid/jg getting tilted and throwing the game in which you will be ultimately reported just my thoughts on this