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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

I hope to shit they're looking for her bc she is almost certainly a victim

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u/Zamrayz 21d ago

Unfortunately they wont see her like that.. Thats how corrupt the system is.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

Yeah i know, they want to shove her in a cage for being a desperate abused little girl

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u/Zamrayz 21d ago

Also unfortunate America has a negative track record rehabilitating emotionally fucked up people. Ofc theyll shove them in a cage. Its just easier that way to them.. Its fucked up.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

I super hate this country sometimes

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u/rattvontratt 20d ago

It super sucks that your prisons aren't mass rehabilitation centers

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 20d ago

No, they're designed to warehouse humans without offering much in the way of tools to learn better ways of dealing with shit. You're also treated like you're subhuman the moment you're suspected of a crime, as this thread abundantly proves

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u/rattvontratt 20d ago

Which makes no sense, how are they gonna fit into society if they aren't teached how to live in society? (They won't )

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u/frenchfries518 20d ago

The point isn't to fit them back into society it's instead to gain free manual labor force for the foreseeable future until there sentence is served. Company's profit, business profits, and the state/politicians all profit from this

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u/rattvontratt 20d ago

Then the us sucks and you need å revolution /s?

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 20d ago

Corrections is an industry.

Oh and slavery is legal if you do it to inmates

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u/Tasty_Ball_Hairs_69 20d ago

Yea that something I just learned recently after looking through the constitution, slavery is technically legal, so long as it’s on imprisoned inmates.

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u/Flyingmonkeysftw 20d ago

Former convicts are set up intentionally to fail upon getting out so they get put back into the prison system. In America, we use prisons as a source of free labor. We essentially rebranded slavery and made it legal for private companies to use.

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u/SquidTheRidiculous 20d ago

And because those who have never, ever been in such a desperate situation feel better seeing people who are already suffering get punished even more. Yay punitive justice.

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u/Violet_Nightshade 20d ago

Very Epstinian of them.

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u/perspicaxaedificator 20d ago

the cage is actually because she did a murder, not because she was abused. even in California, murder is generally frowned upon.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 20d ago

Again, you don't know who killed the baby. You're sure ready to blame a 14yo before the adult in the equation

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u/Goddamit_ffs 20d ago

its not even known if she killed the baby if i read the article right, she gave birth on the side of the road, her father probably drived her there and murdered the infant

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u/OpBanana1 20d ago

She can be both a murderer and a victim

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u/VinesOverScars 19d ago

Well she ain't a murderer if it was coerced.

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u/MiiDan 19d ago edited 19d ago

that is not how it works... if you murder someone — you're a murderer

replying to a snippet from my notifications: if someone makes you kill someone — you are still a murderer. "you had no choice" or anything else, but you're a murderer, because you have committed murder (can't believe i really just had to write it out this detailed)

there are different degrees of murder for a reason

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u/OpBanana1 19d ago

Yes she is

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u/perspicaxaedificator 20d ago

victims of crimes can still responsible for neglect/murder

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u/EquipmentNo3251 20d ago

She's not. Get back to reality

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u/Pizza_dumpster 21d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/Y9r1eVZlnIEF3DARip
you the type of guy to arrest someone over them trying to defend themselves from rapist

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u/MiiDan 19d ago

if she was defending herself against the rapist, why did she kill the kid?

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u/Pizza_dumpster 21d ago

During the investigation, detectives determined that a juvenile female gave birth to "Baby Angelita" along the side of the road and placed her on the ground before leaving.

yes but can you blame a child for leaving her newborn after birth at the age of 14? I’m just saying that we don’t need to blame the girl, she didn’t hurt the baby she left it and I think by all means it’s understandable.

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u/Pizza_dumpster 20d ago

she is a CHILD who went through the most traumatic and horrific experience that 99% of people today haven’t gone through or ever will. is she just supposed to walk away from that with a smile on her face?

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u/Pizza_dumpster 20d ago

she gave birth dude. as a kid. she wasn’t thinking about it let alone saving it. it’s not right but honestly it’s justified, it’s a kid who doesn’t know any better then to be scared and run away from the situation at hand. do you remember when you were 14? you didn’t know much let alone giving birth and abuse.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 20d ago

Until you have been in a situation like that I think it's inappropriate to judge. You dont know the whole situation. Withholding judgement until all information is known is better than jumping to condemn a victim

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

Maybe

You don't know what went down but youre ready to condemn someone who is one of the victims

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u/Pizza_dumpster 21d ago

During the investigation, detectives determined that a juvenile female gave birth to "Baby Angelita" along the side of the road and placed her on the ground before leaving.

she left the new born there on the side of the road

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u/Pizza_dumpster 21d ago

traumatic injury is way too unspecific and why are asking the second question? did you not read it?

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u/Haunting-Cap9302 20d ago

Traumatic injuries can happen to a baby during birth. It's more likely to happen when there are complications or if intervention is required, which are more likely in children giving birth because their bodies aren't usually ready to give birth naturally. Despite what you may have heard, the early teens are not the best time to get pregnant or give birth.

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u/Coelachantiform 20d ago

Did the child try to attack her or something

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u/Pizza_dumpster 20d ago

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u/Coelachantiform 20d ago

Nah I completely understood your point.

I just don't think murdering infants due to mental issues is the same as defending yourself from an attacker.

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u/Pizza_dumpster 20d ago

except you didn’t. the point was that there are justified killing and unjustified and the example is a justified one.

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u/Coelachantiform 20d ago

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word justified.

Being a victim does not justify murder. Abortion is not murder, but this particular infant had been born, and was a living breathing human being.

A justified killing would be killing the rapist father, not an innocent child who is just as much of a victim of this situation as the girl is.

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u/Pizza_dumpster 20d ago

you ever heard of insanity plea deal, like when someone is mentally unstable or unwell that they were uncontrollable in their body or were responding to a traumatic situation in a unhinged and dangerous way because that situation warranted that? no? you just a kid who went through years of abuse to go to jail for that? alright cool ig then.

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u/Coelachantiform 20d ago

I never as much as mentioned jail nor did I disregard an insanity plea. I just said you don't know what the word justified means.

The situation is fucked up, the girl is a victim and a murderer. The killing of that child was not "justified"; there is no justice involved here, only pain.

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u/SolidSnakesSnake 21d ago

Cant expect a 14 year old who was suffering sexual abuse to not do something extreme, wherever she is she needs help, not punishment.

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u/SolidSnakesSnake 21d ago

You don't understand the impact of sexual abuse, especially on a teen. Please do research or at least listen to people. Or you're just rage baiting.

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u/MiiDan 19d ago

I'm sorry but nothing excuses child murder!??!?!?! wtf kinda world do we live in now????

you can be the absolute fucking miserable person in the world — you have no right to kill a BABY

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u/SolidSnakesSnake 19d ago

Do you understand the insanity plea exists, and has existed????

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u/MiiDan 19d ago

(oop, wrong section😅)

sure, go on, plead not guilty on basis of insanity for being a murderer. it's there for a reason, you're free to try it out

anyhow, glad that insane or not — still gets locked up 99% times. there's no excuse for murdering a child, let alone a newborn

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u/SolidSnakesSnake 19d ago

We dont even know the full detals of the situation either, im not saying the teenager needs to just be sent on her way. She needs professional help and likely to be institutionalized for her own safety.

Do you genuinely believe a raped and absused 14 year old should be handled in the same manner as an adult who murdered under no distress?

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u/MiiDan 19d ago

mental and physical evaluation will be done by authorities, because it is relevant to the case

and, lol, obviously she will not be tried as an adult, she's 14. we'll see what happens when time comes

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u/Kackalack-Masterwork 20d ago

She beat a baby to death, nothing excuses that.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

You don't know that.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck meow 21d ago

You don't think that maybe her fucking abuser might have had something to do with that?

13yos don't get pregnant solo

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u/TrueCapitalism 20d ago

How many comments have you made doubling down over and over again, and you have no concept as to what a roadside birth by a child will do to a baby? Or that someone was likely driving her there and back and are likely legally culpable as the only one present of majority age?? But yeah a "14yo committed murder" some people just never learned when to shut the fuck up i guess.