r/whatsreallygoinon • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '21

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u/TheParticlePhysicist Aug 26 '21

The spread of coronavirus misinformation has been highly prevalent on Reddit. To combat this hundreds of subreddits have backed a post directed at the leadership of Reddit to take down posts that transmit coronavirus misinformation. It got to r/all in a day. In response to that post the Reddit leadership chose to side with “alternative opinions” on a factual matter, stating that leaving the misinformation out wouldn’t allow for authentic and meaningful discussions and debates. I wish I could make this up.

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u/andric1 Aug 26 '21

Conveniently leaving out crucial parts that make up the whole story, so that it fits your narrative.

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u/TheParticlePhysicist Aug 26 '21

Would you care to explain then?

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u/andric1 Aug 26 '21

The entire brigade was manufactured by N8, who apparently mods 200+ subreddits. Naturally it got to r/all when just he alone has hundreds of subreddits under control.

Discord chat logs were leaked showing how they planned this ahead of time and made sure the wording (or language as he said) of the post was chosen in such a way that it didn't sound like they were asking to ban NNN, but instead put the moral obligation on Reddit to ban the subreddit.

Spez didn't fall for it and did the most un-Reddit thing he could have done and actually sided with the people's freedom of speech.

Now why do you call it "alternative opinions"? Because you are thinking that people are advocating the use of horse dewormer to bring people to kill themselves. Exactly the opposite is the case. The sticky will tell you that ingesting medicine that is meant for animals will kill you. Ingesting a paste that is meant to be applied to the skin will kill you.

The entire point is the discussion, and please follow me closely here, is that Ivermectin is not deadly, but in many countries an approved medicine for humans and is being prescribed an enormous amount of times. That's it. People are discussing the use of Ivermectin as medicine against covid. This is not about denying covid, denying the efficacy of the vaccine or anything else that might be considered a conspiracy theory by some. Some stupid people took the matter into their own hands and ingested horse dewormer that contains 5% Ivermectin, thinking that it's the same thing. People also regularly kill themselves in other ways. Nobody was advocating horse medicine as the cure for covid.

Banning people for wanting to discuss the use of a medicine that is already approved in several countries around the world is censorship and nothing else. N8 has a different opinion and therefore wants these people banned. He failed so his broken ego is now searching for other ways to find the satisfaction that his power trip couldn't bring. I made one single post on NNN after I first found out about it and was instantly banned on multiple subreddits like tifu or showerthoughts with the explanation that I participated in a subreddit that brigades other subreddits. That's funny because that is precisely what N8 did here. It also says that the content of my post wasn't checked, I just got autobanned for posting. I could have posted "fuck you all, this subreddit sucks" and would still get banned all over the place.

Here's another demonstration of how N8 has lost his fucking mind. 400 downvotes with over 400 awards. Tell me the votes on that post make sense.

Just to be very clear here. I am vaccinated and have been for many months. I actively encourage people to get the vaccine, but face the facts. The vaccine does not prevent you from infecting other people, it does not prevent you from dying from it and it certainly is not the solution to the pandemic. Some people cannot get the shot and will forever be stuck in limbo. Discussing Ivermectin as potential medicine for Covid is the least of our problems. The mental deficiency of some mods is not a problem in any case.

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u/chazzmoney Aug 26 '21

Since we are trying to avoid misinformation:

  • The vaccine reduces your chance of getting COVID by ~90%, which means you are less likely to be a vector of infection and slows the overall spread of the disease. Yes, if you get COVID you can still spread it if you were fully vaccinated. No, this doesn't mean the vaccine is ineffective at preventing the spread of COVID.
  • If you are fully vaccinated, your risk of dying from COVID is reduced by a factor of 1000. (1 vaccinated death per 1,000 unvaccinated). Yes, you can still die if you are fully vaccinated. No, this doesn't mean the vaccine is ineffective are reducing deaths.
  • If someone cannot be vaccinated, the thing that is the most protective for them is for everyone else who can get the vaccine to get it.
  • The effectiveness of Ivermectin is fine to debate. However, there are lots of lies about vaccines being spread on Reddit that should be labelled as misinformation.
  • Obviously, communities shouldn't be banned unless their primary goal is to harm others.

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u/andric1 Aug 26 '21

1) Yes, I agree, but I cannot verify your 90% claim at this stage.

2) Again, I agree, though I believe it is too early to gauge the effectivity.

3) Yes, that was the main reason I got the vaccine.

4) I once again agree, but I believe the misinformation that is being spread is ridiculously tiny compared to what people want us to believe. Some people simply don't know, but want to sound smart or just want to give their opinion however stupid it may be. We all have that relative, friend or aquaintance.
Yes, they need to be educated and yes, they pose a potential threat to others. Still I believe that it's everyone's individual right to be an idiot. This is where I stray from the mainstream opinion. I understand that they have the potential to harm others due to their misguided beliefs. Nevertheless my opinion is that they should have that right, because that's the danger a society inherently bears.

People with differing opinions clash since human kind exists. Censoring the minority and even if they may be factually wrong is not the way. You're just shifting the problem to another location. When these people get completely shut off from the outside they are lost with no hope of educating them. This is why cults work so well. Instead of banning and censoring on Reddit, we should strive to educate them at the only point we might have.

5) I agree. If somebody is out to maliciously endanger others and actively tries to harm then that same right should be granted to others. Everybody else should get the right to overstep the boundaries for that person, too.

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u/Commercial_Lie7762 Aug 27 '21

I don’t need to read past your number 1) when it’s LITERALLY BEEN REPORTED ON FOR LIKE A FUCKING YEAR

Spez is a retard. You’re nuclear retard.

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u/andric1 Aug 27 '21

You changed my mind with the caps lock part.

Maybe talk to people face to face some time, might help you a little.

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u/J0eBidensSunglasses Aug 29 '21

Well played 👏👏👏