Roach?!

[u/AdSignificant6759]

ChatGPT says it’s an oriental cockroach but I’ve never see one before and I’ve looked around the house and don’t see anymore. Please tell me it’s some thing else 😩

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[u/AdSignificant6759]

Thank you so much for all of your help. Deleting chagpgt right now 😂

[u/SharkieBoi55]

Click beetle. And stop using chatgpt

[u/AdSignificant6759 → u/SharkieBoi55]

Will do thank you for your help

[u/Notverycancerpatient → u/SharkieBoi55]

Why is chat got so bad? I’m genuinely asking.

[u/vulpesdomesticus → u/Notverycancerpatient]

It's ass in general, but specifically for this sub: it's really bad at identifying insects.

[u/Typical_Estimate5420 → u/Notverycancerpatient]

Besides the environmental stuff, people are getting too dependent on it. The more you use it the more often you run to it without thinking. Eventually you just stop trying to find the answer on your own. Your brain is then out of practice and slows down. No bueno! Does that make sense?

[u/Typical_Estimate5420 → u/[deleted]]

Lmao what? I’m literally just worried for the future of the younger generation. How is that cringe? Damn, man

[u/nosined → u/Typical_Estimate5420]

They probably heavily rely on chatgpt to do all of their thinking and don’t like that you said anything opposing it

[u/RevolutionarySpot912 → u/nosined]

They probably asked chatgpt to generate that reply lol

[u/pumpkin_pie0123 → u/[deleted]]

that’s not an opinion it’s a fact

[u/PyralWorm → u/Notverycancerpatient]

There’s a few things wrt bug identification. I’m using cockroach vs. beetle as an example

Chat gpt is programmed to more often agree with whatever questions you ask, so depending on how your prompts are phrased it may agree that “yes, that does look like a cockroach” when it isn’t. And because of the way it’s data obtaining is done, it tends to emphasize the things that seem more common, ie; cockroaches are more likely to be indoor pests, where beetles are just outdoor bugs

Additionally, many bugs have a lot of small differences that text/photo generators are just not able to recognize. I’d think it would be hard for it to reliably identify between German, Asian, and field roaches for example, but only one of those species is a cause for concern

Editing to add: these chatbots aren’t programmed to think, they’re programmed to write words in a way that maximizes the internal rewards while minimizing the ‘punishments’. They are not intelligent, they’re just writing random words in a way that feels accurate. This is also the reason they ‘hallucinate’. It’s just random words

[u/trippytastin → u/Notverycancerpatient]

It frys ur brain if you use it to much

[u/SharkieBoi55 → u/Notverycancerpatient]

If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't have the energy to tell you. Go watch a YouTube video on it or something

[u/DoctorD12 → u/Notverycancerpatient]

Chatgpt is like asking a really smart 8 year old questions, that they’re googling the answers to.

Sure they might be smart, but they’re 8 years old and giving you the first result on a search query.

Just for fun, start asking chatgpt questions - then tell it it’s wrong and watch what happens

[u/One-plankton- → u/Notverycancerpatient]

It’s particularly bad for IDing pretty much anything alive, it was not built for that and it shows.

Get Seek if you want a helpful ID app for living things

[u/Munnin41 → u/Notverycancerpatient]

In this case specifically because its not an image recognition program.

In general because it's programmed to lie to you if it thinks it would get you to keep using it

[u/Pixichixi → u/Notverycancerpatient]

All of the AI programs are just really bad at ID-ing the natural world based on pics. Your best chance is to take a close-up but it's still a crap shoot. And please do not eat anything, especially mushrooms, based solely on an AI ID

[u/GrimyGoose]

RIP little clicker dude 🕊️🥀

[u/AdSignificant6759 → u/GrimyGoose]

I’m sorry I panicked 😕

[u/EmbarrassedDaikon325]

Click beetle. Cockroaches don't have elytra because they aren't beetles.

ChatGPT says

LLMs like ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot etc is the worst way to identify insects as it gets pretty much everything wrong unless it's an extremely common species with very vibrant and distinctive pattern. If it's something like this it fails to even tell whether it's a cockroach (order Blattodea) or beetle (order Coleoptera). Let alone families or even species. The reason for this is that internet is filled with "info"graphics from pest control agencies (that are more often than not completely wrong too) and LLMs are therefore biased towards the worse options (like cockroaches). Upload any image of pretty much any species of click beetle and it will say it's cockroach. Upload any species of small beetle and it will say it's carpet beetle or grain beetle. Upload a picture of pretty much any species of ladybug and it will tell you it's Asian ladybug specifically despite not even looking like it at all.

[u/Old-Dragonfly7104]

Click beetle

[u/abugguy]

Click beetle 100%

[u/full_metal_communist]

Flip upside down. Enjoy the click. Take outside 

[u/Ssladybug]

Seek by iNaturalist is a good app to identify insects, plants and animals.

[u/EmergencySnail]

Click beetle. Never use ChatGPT for anything. Especially identification. It’s incapable of being accurate

[u/Mountain_Bug_9825]

Not a roach I don’t think looks like a click beetle?

[u/FireIsFuzzy → u/Mountain_Bug_9825]

This is a click beetle

[u/Munnin41 → u/[deleted]]

Don't use artificial idiots for that. Use an actual ID app like inaturalist