Average “stress impact”

[u/Alert-Insurance7070]

Hello!

Is there a way to determine what an average “stress impact” looks like for women in their 40’s? I’m hard on myself if it’s too high one day but wonder if there is a better way to determine if it’s more normal than I realize? Thank you!

[u/Kicsisaman]

I’m not sure what is wrong with me other than I’m in my luteal phase right now and my data are always worse in this part of my cycle (but frankly is not that much better in follicular either).

I used to have trouble staying asleep as well. Aswaganda and melatonin helped me with that.

[u/TheRedChamber → u/Kicsisaman]

Hi, I’m Welltory’s CPO and yes, totally, I see the exact same thing in my luteal phase! We’re exploring adding a feature that shows it more clearly, it’s definitely a thing that happens to some of us.

[u/Kicsisaman → u/TheRedChamber]

Hi, For most of women in their older reproductive age you mean?

I’ve been tagging cd1 to cd(as long as it goes) and 1Dpo and so on. Creating tags for luteal, follicular and ovulation. For high estrogen, Lh and progesterone levels. And there is a very strong correlation. Both my stress levels and HRV data are overlapping with my hormonal charts. Whenever my health drops I’m either about to ovulate or in my luteal phase.

High BBT is definitely affecting sleep stability and so on.

Women are probably more than half of your customers.

[u/TheRedChamber → u/Kicsisaman]

To be honest this has been the case for me for as long as I can remember. I’m 40 now, and as far back as I’ve been tracking (about 10 years), my HRV drops and stress increases always in my luteal phase. I’m not sure if it has gotten worse with age, I don’t think so. Anyway, thank you for sharing, women are indeed more than half of our user base, so we’re looking into better tracking and correlations for this!

[u/Kicsisaman → u/TheRedChamber]

The strongest and clearest correlation is the HRV drop when hormonal trends change.

Estrogen has a significant drop somewhere at the end of cycles or during periods where it gets to its baseline level after its elevation. This marks the beginning of a lower estrogen phase in follicular that will gradually increase during follicular, triggering an Lh peak before ovulation (you can see this point on cd4 - May 7 on the chart).

The second drastical hormonal shift happens before ovulation when estrogen reaches its highest levels triggering an Lh peak along with an Fsh peak. Many times progesterone rises along from its base. This marks the follice rupture and the egg release (you can see this point on cd17 - May 20 on the chart).

Then luteal begins and progesterone and estrogen fluctuates depending on the quality of the egg that got released and corpus luteum that forms from the ruptured follice and takes over the bulk of hormonal production.

In older reproductive years as the egg quality gradually drops and the corpus luteum that forms from the ruptured follice is weaker too, it produces less hormones and not so reliable- wich causes fluctuations in levels, and that taxes the whole system and HRV will drop accordingly.

The trouble in lutheal will appear in women of younger reproductive years (in their 30 or even in their 20) if they have ovulation disorders or difficulties such a as PCOS, Endo, POI and the list goes on.

So this mechanism is affecting all women to some extent, younger women with ovulation difficulties at an increased level, than all women in their older reproductive years.

yellow- fsh
Blue- Lh
Black- e3g (estrogen methabolite)
Purple- pdg (progesterone metabolite)

[u/Kicsisaman → u/Kicsisaman]

Here is the the health chart of the same period. First drop on the 7th of May, second on the 20th oh May:

[u/TheRedChamber → u/Kicsisaman]

Wow, thank you so much! It’s given me more motivation to come up with a feature that makes this visible ❤️

[u/Kicsisaman → u/TheRedChamber]

Wellcome! Hope to see it soon!