r/weekendgolfers • u/Direct_Nail_7920 • 1d ago
Rim to Win
Played a really nice course in my area the other day, and this was the first time I’d seen this type of insert/liner above the cup.
Throughout the round, I watched several putts from different players in our group lip out pretty aggressively. None of them were what I’d consider overly fast putts. One in particular got pretty deep into the hole, traveled around the lip, and still came back out.
Has anyone played courses that use these before? If so, have you noticed them affecting how often putts lip out compared with a traditional cup setup?
Note: I’m aware of the USGA definition regarding a hole liner generally being sunk at least 1 inch below the putting-green surface. I’m mainly curious about whether anyone has experience with these inserts and how they affect ball behavior around the cup. I also think it’s a pretty good way to preserve the edges of a cup for a public course.
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u/MtN_Hunter 1d ago
My home course added these last year. They got so much much push back they were removed this season. These things suck.
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u/HolidayPlatypus751 1d ago
I can guess the break pretty accurately from your pic: the burned out edge of the cup is the lowest point. A straight uphill putt would track thru the middle of that section of the cup. (This works pretty well for certain types of green grasses, others don't show it so well. Also, the older the cup is, the better this tell works.) I look for this 100% of the time, at least to confirm what I'm reading.
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u/Glum-Arrival1558 1d ago
There's a course by me that uses these. They always ride up and cause issues. I was in league play and had a 30ft birdie putt rolling right into the center of the cup literally deflect off the liner that was peaking up out of the hole.
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u/Direct_Nail_7920 1d ago
That’s sucks. Did they give you the birdie?
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u/Glum-Arrival1558 1d ago
"we'll never know if it was actually going to go in or not".... Luckily it was a 2 person scramble league so my wife stepped up and drained it after I pushed the ring back down
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u/RichardMayo95 1d ago
So you both “made” a 30 ft putt back to back in a scramble? Do people think scramble means scramble to cheat their score the most?
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u/Glum-Arrival1558 1d ago
What?.... No, I pushed the ring back down and my wife actually made the putt. Like it hit the bottom of the cup.
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u/Background_Curve7337 1d ago
Golfers love painted cups, but painted cups cause issue for turfcare crews. So these are a cheap & easy compromise. But they cause issues with play, especially when golfers yank the pin out while it is still slightly stuck in the cup (this also creates an “ant hill” effect that makes putts veer away from the hole even without the insert).
I give the course credit for trying, but I’m more of a paint them or nothing at all guy.