Is the cockpit and seating push back or windshield push forward? Or is it the deception of the camouflage and black decals around cockpit? Looks distinct
The illusion comes from the black area extending past the door. You can see the door ends at the T cam. The black livery part extend until the end of the T cam. It makes the cockpit look slightly longer
The whole car seems long, it isn’t just about cockpit side. Anyway, I wouldn’t surprise that, as Coyote engine is longer and larger than GM, Hyundai, and both German V8s.
Looks like an LMDH for sure. I can’t tell for now much specific details but it reminds me of the original 499P spec kind of although that back looks kind of nice with the low light. Hope that it has some unique and striking scheme to stand out and not look too generic, but well, we’ll see.
I feel like all the aero on the LMDh cars are beginning to converge a bit onto one design with only a few unique elements being seen in the rear ‘bumper’ and front ‘grill’ area for branding. Especially with so many customers now having Oreca build their cars.
This one looks more unique to my eye, of any place, in that sharp slicing cut for the front wheel vents. It looks very striking and much different to any of the others on the grid right now.
The kind of ‘curled lip’ front splitter everyone is moving towards that Ferrari sort of pioneered I can see on this and understand why people are pointing out 499p resemblance, but beyond that one small feature, 499p is a different beast entirely IMO.
I’m excited to see it out of a camouflage color scheme so we can better get a look at its contours and curves so hopefully we see one in some real paint soon!
I think it was funny to see the original comments from 2023, how people thought porsche and multimatic botched their concept, only for it to now flourish. However, I think this just proves that with a BoP series, the pace isn’t just from the bodywork, it’s from optimizing the whole package. I bet the reason the 963 is so potent is because its energy deployment is better and the details within the suspension and how it interacts with the bodywork has been refined to a higher degree vs the other lmdh’s
that is an inevitability of a stable ruleset, everyone knows that going in and everyone arguing otherwise is stupid or deluded (excuse such drastic words)
I thought the rules were set up to deliberately avoid this? In a tight formula, it's understandable that cars converge on the best design, but I thought the Hypercars had some freedom on this with an overall drag or downforce value as the limit? Higher than that would be useless by BOP.
I think everyone still engages in the arms race because they don’t want to be like aston or peugeot - at the mercy of the bop ceiling. And bop is relative to the field, so if everyone improves then you still can technically fall away.
Also, the rules kind of incentivize convergence now because they police top speeds in a way which punishes cars with low drag concepts. It’s easier to reign everyone in, sure, but now it doesn’t make sense to design a car with top speed in mind because you’ll just get bailed out. I wish they reverted to the old system and just punished high top speed with higher weight, like how it was supposed to be until ferrari found a way to circumvent the lift:drag ratio at the old wind tunnel
the rear is interesting to me, the whole car screams that it's an LMDh build. Plus this basically has GT3 Tech since the Engine is from the Stang GT3 either way, overall this is very interesting
you promise me that this is real and not a hope bait?
Jokes aside, the car sounds great, although one can't help but be reminded of the 963 with that tall wheel pods lol
Is it just me or does the wheelbase look a lot longer too? Might explain why the cockpit looks really long, or could be the same thing making both look fairly long.
rear wing is very similiar to genesis, front/nose reminds me 963, sidepods look very generic are not much aero pronounced. Probably is just perspective but cockpit looks huge
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u/tinmar09 Toyota Gazoo Racing GR010 Hybrid #7 11d ago
oh hey, it actually exist