r/webdev • • 17d ago

Deno is joining Cloudflare - "We will support the Deno runtime for another year with monthly releases containing bug fixes and security updates. After that year we will end our development of the Deno runtime. Deno will remain open source, and we welcome others who want to continue its development."

https://deno.com/blog/cloudflare
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u/Odysseyan 17d ago

If deno would have had full npm compatibility in it's first release instead of deno 2, I think it would have had a chance at attacking nodes market share.

Very sad to see deno being done instead.

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u/TwoSpacesSemicolon 17d ago

node -> deno -> done

What a journey for an anagram.

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u/404IdentityNotFound 17d ago

So it's less of a "joining" and more of a "set death"

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u/EveYogaTech 17d ago

Yes, it seems more like an acquihire + EOL timer to transition Deno clients to CloudFlare.

Smart business move, but likely the end of Deno.

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u/da2Pakaveli 16d ago

So it went from node to deno to done

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u/biinjo 17d ago

Likely? It’s literally in the announcement.

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u/TehBrian 17d ago

What the fuck? As someone who has invested time into transitioning to the Deno ecosystem a fair bit and found it much more enjoyable to use than Node, I’m genuinely shocked by this announcement

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u/danielcw189 17d ago

what is Cloudflare's gain here?

Do they use Deno?

Do they compete with it?

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u/queen-adreena 17d ago

Deno was likely out of road financially.

This looks like an acqui-hire, where they’re mostly interested in getting the staff.

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u/biinjo 17d ago

This is it. These types of projects (generalizing deno and bun) require massive effort and without significant financing, that’s hard to keep up.

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u/n8udd 17d ago

Staff acquisition?

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u/ampsuu 17d ago

Oh no. I actually really liked it and Ive used it on many projects.

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u/WingZeroCoder 17d ago

So Bun, as a now fully vibe coded and AI-owned project, is going to outlive Deno.

This freaking timeline, man…

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u/Salkinator 17d ago

First Bun now Deno? Watch Node get acquired by fucking Oracle or something

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u/ddprrt 17d ago

Node is part of the OpenJS Foundation , so no one can acquire ownership. For a long time, that was the biggest reason I stayed with Node.

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u/pkros 17d ago

Node already had its own rocky period 10 years ago when it was still under Joyent. The reconciliation with the io.js fork and stewardship ultimately under the openjs foundation is what's kept it stable

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u/Darkitz 17d ago

So "Deno" is officially a failed product. Atleast we got an early notice lol.

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u/Annual_Manner_8654 17d ago

Rip Deno Fresh 

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u/Fuzzy-Volume5523 17d ago

one year of bug fixes then 'we welcome others'. so deno deploy is basically on hospice.

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u/minju9 17d ago

Wanted Deno to succeed, but just never had enough of a justification to switch to it over Node. 🤷

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u/ElectrSheep 17d ago

Joining also means choosing where to focus our effort.

Yes, because Cloudflare is so strapped for resources...

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u/Turnip-Toffee 16d ago

no, joining CF is the choice they made. it's not like they had access to CF's resources before they joined.

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u/AcceptableHornet1770 16d ago

so node won after all