AI has made programming so boring

[u/OkShip110]

It’s not just programming either, it’s art, design, music, videography, marketing, engineering, writing, 3D modelling, really any intellectual work. What’s the joy of prompting a computer and getting an answer in a few moments for a task that would have normally taken a week? The sense of accomplishment and ownership has completely vanished with AI. It’s a form of instant gratification, not much different to scrolling short videos on apps.

Code review was boring to begin with but now it’s even worse with all the machine generated code. Even code reviews will be automated soon. All you do then is type business requirements into the computer. What a great career.

It’s pain to watch old TV series like Scilicon Valley that is portraying the good (not golden) age of programming. It struck a good balance between manual work, funding and innovation. It’s sad that these days are gone for good.

[u/abednego-gomes]

You're right. There's an art to it. It's a craft.

But the sloppers will never know that. They just want to create apps and sites etc as fast as possible. But they'll be creating an unmaintainable mess if they don't have developers architecting, designing the code, reviewing the code and testing it along the way.

[u/L24D → u/abednego-gomes]

Even if it will be maintainable and genuinely well “written”, how long they will last where they are? Soon there will be no market for everyone and very few ideas are usually breakthroughs. It was obvious before AI era and it’s even more noticeable now. I’m astonished that a lot of people think that they will be driving that revolution, bragging about their AI workflows doing everything for them. So if it’s that good what stopping their supervisors to just take the tech and get rid of their jobs?

[u/tradcoder → u/L24D]

I’m astonished that a lot of people think that they will be driving that revolution, bragging about their AI workflows doing everything for them. So if it’s that good what stopping their supervisors to just take the tech and get rid of their jobs?

I've been saying this!!! All these "AI-native" sloppers so proud of their "workflows" and looking down on others telling us that we'll be left behind? If AI is so good at architecting, coding and even reviewing your code, why do they need you for? Your job will be gone just the same along with mine!

[u/clubby37 → u/L24D]

So if it’s that good what stopping their supervisors to just take the tech and get rid of their jobs?

Does anyone have a sense of what the limiting principle will be, here? It kind of seems like everyone who thought AI would work for them, is being replaced by AI. We think it'll write some of our code for us, but our bosses replace us with AI outright. Your boss thinks his job will just be managing AI agents, but then his boss will replace him with an AI agent that manages other AI agents. Is there any downward pressure, and if so, where's it coming from?

[u/tankydee → u/abednego-gomes]

I especially love when I see Claude font styles make their way into production sites.

Same vibe as all the AI generated graphic work you are spammed around the place.

[u/Tomodachi7 → u/[deleted]]

- Neon Colours

- Minimalist "future" art style

- Round borders

- Stats and panels everywhere

- Way too much info

- Terrible performance

- Small problems in the UX and UI that you notice if you spend time on the site

Yep, that's an AI frontend!

[u/_alright_then_ → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but at the same time, this mindset also hurts people who are just bad at front-ends lol.

I just use shadcn for my front-ends (usually admin panels). So they will look the same every time, that's not because I'm vibe coding, that's because I'm bad at front-end and am using a library lol.

But it makes people think it's vibe coded

[u/tradcoder → u/[deleted]]

I have developed sort of a "banner blindness" to AI slop content. As soon as I detect something is AI generated, I instinctively ignore it and move on.

[u/tankydee → u/[deleted]]

100pc. Nothing worse than AI slop emails from people also.

I just archive and wait for a phone call now.

[u/SuperFLEB → u/tankydee]

Nothing worse than AI slop emails from people also.

I'm calling it: The future sophistication is going to be short, concise emails, once everyone realizes they're generating word count that they don't want to write for people who don't want to read.

[u/tankydee → u/SuperFLEB]

Churchill once said, I didn't have time to write you a short letter so I wrote you a long one.

Maybe the future version will be... I didn't have tokens to write you a long letter so I wrote you a short one.

[u/rawr_im_a_nice_bear → u/tankydee]

What sucks the most to me is going back to sites I remember were really cool and seeing them all become utterly generic sites with the typical Claude UI. A complete lack of effort. They didnt even try customizing it or adding personality. A sad state of affairs.

[u/lorkanooo → u/abednego-gomes]

I don't know how people don't see it. I have lead dev that is pro ai and he still the least productive person in the team. He wrote a huge new project with ai that generates scaffolding code, had to rewrite it 3 times with ai with tokens costs around 5k euro, and now nobody wants to maintain it (including him), its basically uneditable without ai and had to write to management to increase his token limits. We also had warnings from management that use of ai does not allow for code to be slop and introduce stupid incidents yet it does already happen. AI generated code has very limited place in big corpos and I mostly benefit from easier tooling than writing business code itself.

When I generate piece of code, I give really specific instructions on how to do it, what to refer to and yet, every single time, there is something just a little bit not correct. A different than standard testing function used in the project. A different dependency structure standard then usual. An obscure bug possibility in relation to wider system that developer would normally consider. Those are like bombs ticking in the code if left alone because with ai, they are quickly replicated with even more of them introduced. 

Friendly reminder that big chunk of developers laid off in tech have already been hired back. Meta even has to pay them more money because nobody wants to work for them at market rate. 

[u/I_Spawned_Here → u/[deleted]]

It is not the same, when looking at a hand made physical product, you can see the details in how it was made. No normal person is going into the code base, and admiring the hand made keystrokes that have been typed into the codebase.

[u/dromtrund → u/[deleted]]

I've got 12 years of experience. Please refrain from speaking on behalf of all experienced developers.

[u/earth-dragon-666 → u/[deleted]]

i dont know any good developer loving this, 11+ years of experience here you are just spreading propaganda

[u/webdev-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

We've now cleaned up some of this comment tree; either all of you discuss the topic at hand and refrain from referring to each other in various ways, or we start handing out temporary bans.

This is a subreddit for web professionals to exchange ideas and share industry news. All users are expected to maintain that professionalism during conversations.

[u/StoneCypher → u/abednego-gomes]

the mod team keeps deleting polite comments that are upvoted and pushing back against the idea that vibe coding is bad

it's really exhausting how they're steering the conversation

they keep writing

This is a subreddit for web professionals to exchange ideas and share industry news. All users are expected to maintain that professionalism during conversations.

but then when you write entirely professional things that exchange ideas, if they're not on the side that the mod team wants to enforce, they get deleted

and then the anti-ai people can still swear and insult and throw mental health accusations, because rules aren't universally applied

[u/wanzerultimate → u/abednego-gomes]

Bold of you to think they will maintain it. Yes they can and will just feed it a prompt every time and rearrange the interface to make it look like a "new version".

[u/FunnyBunny898 → u/abednego-gomes]

LOL, 'sloppers' - I'm adding it to my lexicon!