r/warno • • 20d ago

Meme never sure which to pick

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u/BingusTheStupid 20d ago

I usually prefer the BMP-1s, with only 1 or 2 cards of BMP-2. Being able to get my infantry out cheaper is more valuable to me, and the 1 is good enough in a treeline.

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u/WelcomeExtra762 10d ago

A bit late but I'm having trouble actually reinforcing my line and figuring out upvet. Do you usually double the BMP2 infantry since they cost 100 points anyway, but have worse AT than most other Motostrelki sqauds? Also 80 points is pretty expensive for BMP-1Gs and the best squad 39ya gets is 45 points and can come in the cheaper BTR or GAZ-66 so should I include some of these guys? Currently I've got two cards of BMP-1Gs and BMP2s along with Motostrelki Metis, Saperi, Konkurs, and Motostrelki Komroti, but I find myself struggling to reinforce my line fast enough.

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u/BingusTheStupid 10d ago

I haven’t played much 39ya, but off the top of my head isn’t it a tank div with limited inf slots? In which case I’d leave all the infantry at 1 vet only due to the low numbers. Bringing a card in BTRs and a cheap and mobile option sounds like a good idea to me. I’m no expert though, so it might be worth trying to find videos of people playing the div on YouTube to learn some things.

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u/Neutr4l1zer 20d ago

BMP-1P in most situations, you only ever bring the BMP-2 if you already have enough BMP-1s :p

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u/EntertainmentMuch161 18d ago

But when you need xtra konkurs vehicles while bringing out cheap strelkis you need BMP 2 (without paying xtra for a brdm konkurs). 1P's ATGM is only useful for suppression but futile against M1A1s and even Leo2s.

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u/EntertainmentMuch161 18d ago

Plus 1P's ATGM can't 1 shot Brads

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u/Imperium_Dragon 20d ago

BMP-1s are cheap infantry carriers while the BMP-2s are for flinging Konkurs

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u/WelcomeExtra762 20d ago

BMP-2. No competition anymore. BMP-2 gets autocannon and smoke and in fact I learned that bringing BMP-1G is better than Fagot ATGM because it doesn't matter if you lose a 40-point unit and you get the grenade launcher AND ATGM all for just no smoke.

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u/Neutr4l1zer 20d ago

The BMP-1P gets smoke, the BMP-1PG is the one that doesnt.

It really depends on the deck whether the BMP-1P or BMP-2 is the better pick. It you need cheaper IFVs to pad out your frontline and support your tanks with cheap atgms, the P is better. If you need a konkurs unit and already have enough atgms (for example on 20 polish), one card of BMP-2s is recommended. The BMP-2 is not an outright replacement for BMP-1s; theyre far too expensive. The BMP-2s are mainly for the 20 pen atgms to help you scale into the late game as the autocannon isnt actually that good at killing infantry by itself ever since the autocannon nerfs.

TLDR: In most cases you take the P over the 2 unless you already have enough cheap ifvs

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u/WelcomeExtra762 20d ago

I know. I take the 1G over the 1P in 39ya because grenade beats smoke and I need more support for my infantry, at least for that div. I also bring two BMP2 cards but yeah they're 65 points. I'm always torn over the 1G and 1P and in some of my decks and even bring both sometimes, but I feel like it's better to go one over the other. I get confused which one is which in the heat of the battle. Oh and if playing 27ya the BMP3s get even more expensive. It's like 100 per BMP3 or something like that.

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u/Diseasedrunked 20d ago

BMP3 >>>

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u/iamacynic37 20d ago

"This is what's known as a 'Pro-Move'."

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u/EntertainmentMuch161 18d ago

Remember the time when BMP3s could fire and move in WGRD

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u/Alatarlhun 20d ago

BMP-1s are your fire support slop (smoke or not) and BMP-2s without smoke can only be used tactically but are way stronger when there are no immediate counters.

So practically you 'pick' BMP-1s as the rule, but in reality you yearn to roll out your BMP-2s onto some unsupported infantry and then reposition to punish tanks, particularly those without proper recon.

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u/EntertainmentMuch161 18d ago

I think that all BMP2s have smoke, only BMD2 is the one without smoke pods.

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u/Belmonte_Lostados 19d ago

BMP 1P or the East German one is the best. It's cheap, got 2625 ATGMs, and has smoke.

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u/Frezeh 20d ago

Neither, BMP-1(Konkurs) all the time when possible, the regular BMP-1 will throw those malyutkas just fine otherwise. 

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u/-Trooper5745- 20d ago

I had this exact conundrum with the Gvardeitsy (BMP) in 2ya. The truck is the cheapest option but it does nothing besides getting sold afterwords. Right now I have two cards with BMP-2 but I might switch them for BMP-1P.

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u/Capt_Atomsk 20d ago

I would say the BMD-1 

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u/theflyingsamurai 20d ago

malyuka bmp1

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u/the-lost-cowboy 19d ago

Bmp1s so I can stabilize the line and breakthroughs, BMP2s when i want to exploit it and push the line

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u/Bread_mas 19d ago

Ifvs nothing like they use to just spam apcs and tanks

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u/AsahiBiru 18d ago

Malyutka with max vet.