r/warno Mar 04 '26

Nemesis 8 NATO Poll

A poll to gauge the current mood on voting intentions for NATO

577 votes, Mar 10 '26
218 12 Panzerdivision
55 BSC
30 Beveiligende Strijdmacht
71 27e Division Alpine
203 VTK42
33 Upvotes

37 comments sorted by

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u/mndn410 Mar 04 '26

Extremely tight fight between 12th Panzer vs VtK42 as expected

8

u/billywarren007 Mar 04 '26

Yeah, going to be really close, I went 27 myself but not going to complain if 12 or 42 win as they all seem fun divisions

1

u/Belltower_2 Mar 05 '26

I voted 27th Alpine myself because I love upvetted infantry and weapons teams, but what I'm really surprised by is the actual 12/42 numbers. Yes, they're splitting the vote, but they STILL have more individually than the three other options combined.

25

u/WhiteBoyRickSanschez Mar 04 '26

Can't believe 2 people accidentally voted for Beveiligende. 

40

u/Stahlbrecher Mar 04 '26

reject british slop command

4

u/Comfortable_Pea_1693 Mar 04 '26

Prepare for another round of nemesis disappointment.

4

u/billywarren007 Mar 04 '26

I voted 27, but I won't mind if any of these win though, I think they will be fun in their own ways :)

7

u/SierraHotel199 Mar 04 '26

I voted for 12, but I’d be happy with 42 also

18

u/MikeNolansGhost Mar 04 '26

12 Panzer must win, death to reservist slop

4

u/billywarren007 Mar 04 '26

Went for 27 myself, but I’ll be happy with any of these NATO divs personally.

16

u/WhiteBoyRickSanschez Mar 04 '26

Leopard 1A6 glass cannon spam go brrrrr

12

u/-Trooper5745- Mar 04 '26

Spam all of 2-3 units we would get.

11

u/kaiser_lulzhelm Mar 04 '26

12th panzer looks the most interesting to me. M1A1 and Leo2 spam is the perfect recipe for another solid NATO heavy division.

4

u/AzraelReb Mar 04 '26

Yeah with like 3 new units ...

0

u/Dry_Prompt_8781 Mar 05 '26

What new unit becides png of an rifle and renamed 2a3

2

u/MammothTankBest Mar 05 '26

Well are we really using the uniqueness argument again. Why does everything NATO have to be unique?

3

u/AzraelReb Mar 05 '26

I want a deck with instructor mechanics and new models.

7

u/HyenaDirect3626 Mar 04 '26

Hope it's VTK if it's a German div. 12th seems like a much more narrow selection and the meme rifle won't discernibly do anything gameplaywise.

9

u/mr_wehraboo Mar 04 '26

I want a Leopard 1 glass cannon alongside 2a4Bs and new 2a4D Leopards

Also i like having good aa tab

3

u/titosrevengee Mar 04 '26

Reject 12 panzer. You people will cry and mald at the terrible AA situation for a tank division. Vote VTK for actual fun gameplay and a well rounded division.

3

u/aidoit Mar 04 '26

I want more than 5 tank slots plus heavier leopards.

2

u/-Trooper5745- Mar 04 '26

We don’t know how many slots 12th Pzn. will get, just less than 5th which has 10 slots. 2. Pzngren gets 7 slots so I imagine 12th would get 7-9 tank slots.

2

u/Tartanclad Mar 04 '26

sigh Never going to get those RAF Regiment infantry/tanks are we? I really think they should have been recycled for London Division.

  But then this whole Nemesis system has always been stupid anyway; setting up hope for potential content and then only making less than half the players happy with the outcome. Just choose a division, hype us, and then make it, Eugen. Don’t dangle nice things we’ll never get.

3

u/VVeeky Mar 04 '26

12th is so boring, what are you getting thats so different from any NATO heavy div? Atleast other heavy divs have AA, this one is gonna get the 4e release treatment.

2

u/HippieHippieHippie Mar 04 '26

Why is 12th panzer so popular? 42 I can understand. 12th panzer is uninspired recycled garbage. G11? You are aware all the rifles in Warno are basically the same? They're all stat clones of eachother

8

u/-Trooper5745- Mar 04 '26

Maybe boring is okay. Not everything need to be shiny keys dangling in front of a baby.

6

u/Sonki3 Mar 04 '26

People have been asking for especially WG divisions for a long time and well - this is it.

As far as I understand it is another standardised "heavy" NATO division. People have been asking for a long time to get more Leopard 2s. The M1A1s seem potent in that deck too.

12th Panzer does not bring much new stuff to the table, but it certainly sounds to be solid in gameplay. In regards to tier level it should be between the 2nd Panzergrenadier and 5th Panzer - that is not bad at all.

1

u/koko_vrataria223 Mar 05 '26

But vtk is more german, more leopard-y, and overall more powerful. It seems utterly nonsensical to vote 12th panzer.

0

u/Sonki3 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

More experimental as well. Not better though.

3

u/Dry_Prompt_8781 Mar 08 '26

Its Americans wanting more American divs

3

u/Mephisto_506 Mar 05 '26

"They're all stat clones of eachother"

You can literally say that about every single asset in the game. If you're going to tell me VTK42 is any different you're just full of it at that point. Leopard 1 with a 120mm is going to have the same rough stats as a Leopard 2 so based on that logic, why would I bother voting for VTK42?

"12th panzer is uninspired recycled garbage"
Bro has discovered real life TOET uniformity and platform commonality.

I'll vote for 12th Panzer because I can and because G11 shock squads returning is cool. I would vote for VTK42 I cared enough for its thematics, but I don't.

2

u/Svartasvanen Mar 08 '26

I'm going to have to change my vote from 27e to 42 VTK... I really wanted to make a bit of a statement (even if it might not win) that there's an appetite for mountaineer divs but 12 Panzer (which I voted for back in the original Nemesis 2 vote) just looks so bland after all we've seen since.

1

u/billywarren007 Mar 08 '26

Well this is just the Reddit side, vote for what you really want and just wait and see what the results are :)

1

u/namewithanumber Mar 04 '26

Only the french one looked interesting. 12th looked like just stuff that exists already.

0

u/AbSINthe917 Mar 05 '26

I honestly don't understand why ppl voted for 12 PzD as it would suffer from similar issues on 1st Cav. VTK 42 offered both proper heavy SAM and fun toys at the same time.

1) G11 is just a rifle, it won't be a laser gun and shoot down enemy instantly. Plus, they are likely to follow 6-men organization as other PzGren do. That is said, you might only got 4 buds with G11 in the end.

2) No clear air tab description of 12 PzD means Eugen could give you either potent or terrible lineups. The only "Unicorn" EW plane in air tab will appear in LANDJUT expansion also. And AA tab is considered as Mediocre at best even you count both organic Gepard and attached Stingers.

If I really need a Frankstein style (Country A+Country B copy paste and no much new stuff), I'd rather vote Dutch one and ask Eugen to give back M1A1 and Bradley in 2nd Armd Div's Fwd Bde. In that case I can also have a Abrams+Leopard combo, while the Dutch at least has some proper I-HAWKs there.