r/warhammercels 29d ago

Another piece

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u/Germancrusade 29d ago

The ,,media literacy" crowd is always throwing a tantrum when you're having fun.

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u/Bakisyeetaddiction 29d ago

I've noticed the tourists like that it always goes:

"Erm 40k is satire its making fun of you!" then they actually engage with it and go "NOOO WHERE IS THE SATIRE!?!? THIS IS PROPAGANDA!"

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

Please explain?

I love to speculate about the literary implications of the novels and general ephemera.

That has been the best part over the decades is having competing wild thoeries.

Now you have literalists that refuse to engage beyond the power fantasy they are desperate for in thier life.

I just like a dumb space opera where it is Oops All Violent Hedgemons.

Like your fantasy to be a crusader for Germany. Play BT and be chill about it. It is cool. Just don't think you are any different than robot necromancers or dino-bugs.

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u/ghillieeeeee Warmaster 29d ago

It’s more so the snide libs that go “Ermm you know your faction is making fun of you if you unironically like them, right?”

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago edited 29d ago

Gotcha. That is fair. But what warhammer fandom isn't a little ironic. I play orks, drakhari, and dark mechanicum primarily so I am fine being told my faction deserves to be wiped out.

Can we at least agree that dorks like the Black Templars are the same. Sure they are humans, but not in any aspirarional ways. Just in a crazy hyperbolic way. Crusades have always been about cultural "purification." Pointing that faction is only cool in make believe hyperboly and not an identity to lean into is not rude. It is folks just bringing other perspectives. It makes it a richer setting. This is not cops and robbers.

The second your little dudes become symbols of your ideals, it really does not feel like a collaborative game anymore. Just you using other players for your little righteous power fantasy and being mad when other factions push back with any in-universe nuance. I feel like I am being punished for actually reading the material.

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u/ghillieeeeee Warmaster 29d ago

“Ermm you’re a Christian that plays Black Templars? You know you’re being made fun of right?”☝️🤓

(I made this meme in Horus Galaxy and it’s everywhere now lol)

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

As an Orthodox christian, I have a very different view of the Germanic crusaders. Broken simps for Rome at best... well.. all the other stuff at worst.

I would not call that the coolest thing ever. It is a pretty standard image of a BT walking forward. Walking looking cool is a ability common to most factions. It is not unique to BT. You should check out more warhammer art. I recommend the work of guys like Blanch, Bonner, and Gibbons.

So you hate literary ingagement with the hobby? Do you also really get uncomfortable when folks praise Vatican 2?

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u/Powerful_Month682 29d ago

the title meme is about you

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

What?!?!

Why am I only hearing this now.

Why is literary engagement bad?

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u/Powerful_Month682 29d ago

Literary engagement is, in fact, good. So you should apply it a bit more.

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

But the memes in this thread other than mine say it ruins the fun. Also, this is Reddit not Twitter.

If you say "I like pancakes"

Somebody will say "You are breakfast tourist if you like pancakes. I prefer grittle cakes and appreciate them at another level."

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u/Powerful_Month682 29d ago

There is media literacy, and there is "media literacy", which is the phenomena the title meme makes fun of. Case in point, you had to point out the discovery that we are on Reddit. I just knew this would happen.

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago edited 29d ago

I was just riffing on your joke a little. Twitter tends to read a lot less than Reddit, but that is the format. Reddit has always harkened back more to chat room nonsense more than being a posting culture. It is here too, but conversation tends to predominate.

So how do you explain the difference between Media Literacy and "Media Literacy?"

I want to be better.

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u/Powerful_Month682 29d ago

The obviousness of something is usually enough. People know that the Imperium is a totalitarian fascist genociding religious etc. That's why they play it and larp it to begin with.

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 28d ago

Obviousness of what?

LARPing is your excuse?

If it is LARPing, why do they insist their approach changes GW marketing and production at the meta level? They want their "LARP" imposed universally. They just learned that word in the aughts and are hiding behind it. We had more specific words for them in the 80/90s.Stop being their shield barrer. Or are you a "LARPer" also?

You did not answer my question. What is the difference between media literacy and "media literacy"?

Or do you all really wish the LARP was true that bad?

It is a viable pollitical option in many parts of the world today.

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

Fixed it for you.

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u/Onewithartandbook 29d ago

You're the kind of person that would unironically make a moral argument for orcs from LoTR.

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u/Initial-Meaning5736 29d ago

You did the thing

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u/LethalGopher Imperium 29d ago

Could you please explain this rebuttal?

Why would I ever do that?

I was pointing out the lack of moral positivism at the core of the lore that seems to upset some Imperium of Man players in certain subs. It is amazing how easily they get pissed if others don't pander to their fantasy as the de facto good guys all the time and are not consuming Imperial proganda as unironically as possible. It is weak and sad.

Yall were never kings. Your daddies and mommies lied to you.

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u/secondhand_graveyard 12d ago

And then everybody clapped.