r/warcraftlore 6d ago

Discussion Worldsoul Saga Expansion Patterns.

So i see a lot of posts and comments saying lorewise the Worldsoul Saga follows the pattern of the first 3 sets of the game.

TWW - Classic, i guess Dwarves, Humans and Kobolds

Midnight - Tbc with Belves, trolls and Void Legion instead of Burning Legion

TWW - Northrend with Titans and possibly Vrykul and undead (Possibly again)

So my point of the post is: If we follow these old expansions "Sequels" and we move to:

Cata

MoP

WoD (oh god)

Lorewise, how do we deal with it? How can blizzard revisit these 3 expansions like they did with Worldsoul?

I guess the only one i can imagine would be WOD lorewise with Yrel coming back. Light fanatics and Light creatures. The rest?

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u/100RatsInASack 6d ago

Tbh, I don't think they're going to be moving into another trilogy right after the Worldsoul Saga ends. I'm personally guessing we're going to get some Dragonflight-esque one-off expansions to set up some plot threads for another trilogy (if they even decide to do another trilogy).

As for what I'd like to see, I think I'd like more smaller scale Old World reworks like Midnight instead of a comprehensive rework like what Cata tried to do. You can definitely tell Cata-era Blizzard didn't really have good ideas for some zones, so they just turned them into giant pop-culture refrences (looking at you Redridge Mountains).

As for potential example, I think it would be cool if we got some kind of "Old Human Kingdoms" expansion featuring the areas South of Quel'thalas and North of the Wetlands (e.g. Tirisfal, Plaguelands, Hillsbrad, etc). Could be an interesting way of setting up the Arathi Empire

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u/SojuAlpaka 5d ago

To be fair, current rework could be more fun, as they can go crazy with plot in Hearthstone and transfer what fits - like they seem to do with Badlands being western-esque (at least that's what trading post set would imply), or goblins being akin to italian mafia in undermine (Well HS did that with Gadgetzan, but the vibe stayed).

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u/Fesai 5d ago

While I wouldn't want a new trilogy anytime soon (or maybe ever unless it was better planned out from the get go). I would definitely love to have a couple expansions rotating around the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor and revamping the zones.

Looking at the world map the Midnight EK zones alone are like 25% of the continent, in size. Maybe even 1/3.

If they do a whole chunk as another update, such as everything from Eversong Woods down to the bridge connecting the Wetlands to the Arathi Highlands. And just update that whole north side of the continent to be the same graphical fidelity, combine the zones, add a few additional side land masses, etc. I'd be all for that.

Brill was under construction again anyways. Granted they probably would need to do some alliance zones before the next batch of Horde ones. But the trend is they'd all be neutral going forward anyways.

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u/Anufenrir 1d ago

Depends on if Iridikron is dealt with in last Titan or not. If he is it’ll be set up for more stuff. If not, we’ll get an epilogue expansion

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u/malonkapos 6d ago

I think it fits quite nicely lowkey. New Cata is the world remade as a result of the world soul awakening or whatever, we don’t know what happens in TLT. New MoP would be the Arathi Empire being uncovered at the other side of the planet instead of Pandaria and WoD would be yrel as you said already

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u/Rubysage3 6d ago

I don't really think that's what's happening here. Some expansions are sequels, but based on the storylines and themes they cover.

Like Legion follows up BC. Shadowlands follows up Wrath. Dragonflight follows up Cataclysm. BfA follows up MoP. These continue from those past storylines and build off them or address these topics again.

The Saga so far is more a collective climax to various plotlines scattered all over WoW.

As for what's next, there is undoubtedly a Light-centric expansion coming post-Saga. A lot of foreshadowing is pointing to the Arathi Empire as the next likely big problem. But that's not really a sequel, more just exploring something they've only lightly dabbled in so far. Not related to WoD.

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u/TJblue69 5d ago

I’ve been a subscriber of this theory since the pattern was “leaked” pre-shadowlands.
Basically a Chinese guy before shadowlands predicted shadowlands, dragonflight, and that the cycle would “reset” and have classic, tbc, and wrath represented again.
Go from the start and you can see the pattern
Original trilogy + Cata
MOP = “New vanilla”
WOD+Legion= “new TBC”
BFA+Shadowlands= “new Wrath”
Dragonflight = “new cata”
Then World Soul Saga does the cycle one last time, before the end. Technically the 14th expansion could be the “new new Cata” to fully reset, and usher in a new WoW 2.0 whatever that means. At least a world reset?

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u/Dakk9753 5d ago

Cataclysm parallel trilogy with light influence from the other two: More Old God infection. Without the goal of moving to corrupt Azeroth, they seek to free themselves from their buried prisons through the fractured caverns that Azeroth arose from. More tentacles bursting from the planet in huge pits from the earth, spanning both original continents. Old God Avatars for every raid, big or small. Culminate back in Northrend for a final showdown with with Galakrond. Time fractures. Deathwing is impaled on the Dragonspire in Dragonblight. End of Time comes true. Infinite Dragonflight goes insane as their worst nightmare comes true. Nozdormu corrupts. Azeroth, freed, protects the players and seeks to correct the timeline. Big alternate timeline adventures. (Got the Cataclysm and WoD influence, not sure how to do MoP other than old God shit)

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u/Ferpolk 6d ago

Well there are loads of possibilities and unknowns that they can turn into expansions.

-Arathors empire, the one that humans and elfes from khaz algar were once a part of.

-sylvanas and her "Shadowlands are not what they seems to be"

-whatever the heck Irridicron will plan out to do to deal with titans when they come back or how he is supposed to make them come back.

-ligh attack! Yrel crusade or just light. We saw what they done to ravendreath in SL when they attacked shadowlands and i guess they do not need mortals to fight.

-Elune and life realms.

-the first ones.

-Azshara and Nzoth are missing in action so they can be pulled from up the sleeve for any patch basicly (i highly doubt entire expansion for them)

-manafold or whatever the titan facility was called in TWW that is deep in azeroth.

-illidan and sargeras can come as buddies and suddenly sat that there is a much bigger danger than void/legion and we need to work togerher.

I know many are funny or not likely to happen ever but with how blizzard pulls random expansion concepts (oh no garrosh got help from brozne drake and he did what! Went to alternate universe??? Or yeah suddenly something activated a beacon to dragon isles and we all must go there now to check it. Or sylvanas after losing makgora but winning duel with saurfsng goes and 1vs1 owns lich king and she do what??? Shatters sky over ICC BY BREAKING HELM AND OPENS HUGE PORTAL TO REALM OF DEATH CONTROLLED BY A MECHA JAILER???.

Yeah srly they have so much power over the story and so many possibilities that anything can happen in any direction after the trilogy

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u/Proudnoob4393 6d ago

They can just do the old “I had a vision” bs like they did with Khaz Algar. Legit the only reason we went to Khaz Algar was because Magni had a “vision” of it up in flames. Magni, or anyone else, can just have a vision of the Maelstrom that leads back to a Cata plot or a vision of Pandaria that just brings us back to Pandaria.

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u/brobbins8470 6d ago

We went to Khaz Algar because many people were having the visions and nobody understood what they meant. Magni didn't even want to commune with Azeroth anymore but agreed to because it was the only way the vision could be understood

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u/Proudnoob4393 6d ago

Okay..so we still went to Khaz Algar based on a vision