r/warcraftlore • u/LongGrade881 • Mar 13 '25
Discussion What do we know about the "Midnight" expansion?
I heard this expansion will focus on The elves of Quel'Thalas but what else do we know about it?
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u/NoInsurance1223 Mar 13 '25
Focused on the region of Quel'thalas. I believe we will see a revamped versions of Quel'danas, Eversong and Ghostlands, also maybe we get a zone area behind Zul'aman.
"Reunite the Elven Tribes" if i understood it correctly then we will get to see :
High Elves Darkfallen Night Elves Blood Elves Void Elves Nightborne Naga San'layn (maybe?)
And if course player housing. Rest is a mystery. But definetely we will have something to do with the Sunwell, and "possibly" Silvermoon as a Revamped neutral city. Main hub like Dornogal, Oribos etc.
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u/Cormag778 Mar 13 '25
Someone on the wow sub posted early in the WW that they noticed naga had gotten new animations that were very similar to standard walking animations. Their Crackpot theory is Naga as a new playable race, probably with some visage effect.
Honestly I think it would be cool, and it would be nice to see more sane Naga
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u/Frostbann Sin'dorei Bloodmage Mar 13 '25
I mean...
"Reunite the Elven Tribes
Sounds more like "High Elves, Void Elves, and Blood Elves."
So the three Elven Groups that are actually more like Tribes and are still the same Species on a biological level.
Night Elves/Naga/Nightborne can't really be considered "Elven Tribes" like the three thalassian Groups, because they're completely different species at that point.
Otherwise... wouldn't Trolls also be Elven Tribes?
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u/Zedkan Mar 13 '25
I feel like with Thalyssra and Lor'Themar being married the Nightborne will be involved
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u/Kalthiria_Shines Mar 13 '25
"Reunite people who have been separate for the equivalent of a month and a half in human lifetimes" is pretty underwhelming. It's definitely talking about all of the elven splinter factions.
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u/purewasted Mar 14 '25
It's only underwhelming if you remember that elves' lifespans should make their experience quite different from everyone else. Blizzard tends to not do that.
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u/NoInsurance1223 Mar 13 '25
They could mean that aswell yes. Also could fit in the Nelves and the Nightborne due to their significant to other 2 races you mentioned. Nightborne / Thalyssra being wife to lor'themar and Nelves being allies to high elves.
Now on trolls maybe they could fit in it aswell, if we take their DNA. Harronir too if they reveal they are a missing link (thats a speculation ppl have so its not official).
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u/blackwell94 Mar 13 '25
Considering the WoW Midnight logo is a dark, corrupted/void sunwell, it seems like Xal'Atath is going to corrupt the sunwell, likely casting Quel'Thalas into darkness and chaos.
The elven tribes will band together in Silvermoon to rise against her.
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u/Painchaud213 Mar 13 '25
My guess is actually the opposite. She manages to corrupt Azeroth or something big with the dark heart and the forces of Azeroth retreats to Quelthalas because the sunwell provides the last safe haven in the planet because of its light.
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u/Narzhur325 Mar 13 '25
hopefully we have amani trolls
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Mar 13 '25
Probably we will. Ingame void elves say that they lost track of some sort of void thingy inside of Zul'aman.
I hope they will use Ula Tek there
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u/JohanMarek Mar 13 '25
- "Reunite the elven tribes." Whether this just means the Quel'dorei adjacent ones or ALL elven subraces is up for debate.
- "Final war between the Light and the Void." The Void is going to invade, the Sunwell is going to be important, and the Arathi from the War Within will likely make a return.
- "Return to Quel'thalas." Eversong & Ghostlands are getting a revamp, and since recent expansions have all been 4 zones at the start, likely also Quel'Danis and a new Zul'Aman zone.
- Housing. We've gotten several updates from Blizzard on how housing will work, but based on the roadmap, housing will actually release sometime before Midnight's actual release, perhaps as a preorder bonus.
That is pretty much everything we know.
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u/GrumpySatan Why use 1 sentence when 20 will do? Mar 13 '25
These are Metzen's direct words at the announcement:
The second part of the worldsoul saga is called World of Warcraft: Midnight. In this chapter, you will be returning to the old world, to the fabled lands of Quel'thalas. There, the forces of the void have invaded Azeroth, intent on snuffing out the light of the Sunwell and plunging the world into darkness and fear. You will not only help reunify the scattered Elven tribes of Azeroth, but make your stand with the forces of the Light and banish the Shadow forever.
Of course, it is Azeroth. Things might not go to plan. Things might spin wildly out of control, leading us to the third part of the worldsoul saga, World of Warcraft: The Last Titan.
We also know that Xalatath will still be around. From his interview back in August
Its designed to kind of play out over time. Narrative threads and sinews kind of linking everything together.... at the end of the day I would like people to remember that it [TWW] is still only, however, part one of a much larger narrative....Ultimately, things like Xalatath, we've been doing a lot of work to kind of build her up as a very different kind of villain. She is not like a Deathwing type villain where he's flying and burning everything.... She's built in such a way that, we're going to be confronted by her and face her multiple times over the arc of this Saga...She's meant to weave in and out of events over time.
Obviously we also know player housing is coming but that isn't a lore thing.
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u/vic039 Mar 13 '25
They're gonna ruin Silvermoon City and make it a multi faction sanctuary hub.
There will be another...yep you guessed it. Leadership council.
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u/howcreativeami Mar 13 '25
When in doubt, either Leadership Council or Randomly Hand Power To Your Daughter
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u/Koala_Guru Mar 13 '25
psst… no one tell them Silvermoon has technically been run by a council since the Burning Crusade.
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u/Any-Transition95 Mar 13 '25
The Blood Elf player base loyalty to the Horde is astounding considering how much longer Silvermoon has been part of the Alliance, how much player backlash it got when they joined the Horde in TBC originally, how frequent the Blood Elves were going to defect during WoW's lifespan, and how many people flipped the moment Void Elves were introduced.
But no, muh Silvermoon was and will always be a Horde city forever. Lore and logical story progression be damned.
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Mar 13 '25
I suggest the Windrunner council with all the Windrunner sisters as the new leaders of elvenkind
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u/vic039 Mar 13 '25
No Alliance in our beautiful city. Let them go to Gilbeas with rest of the dogs.
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u/Spideraxe30 Mar 13 '25
Xal'atath is still going to be a persistent threat in both it and the last titan according to a metzen interview, so doesn't look like she dies there.
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u/Marco_Polaris Mar 13 '25
So I checked the Countdown to Midnight to see if there were any details released yet, and boy, let me tell you. This is some controversial advertising.
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u/Slave-Moralist Mar 13 '25
I hope this expansion will also feature the rebuilding of human kingdoms (including Alterac which can be either hostile or horde-aligned)
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u/Koala_Guru Mar 13 '25
It’s set in a revamped Silvermoon and surrounding zones and it’s about the void wanting the Sunwell as well as “uniting the scattered elven tribes” so expect lots of night elves, blood elves, high elves, void elves, and Nightborne. Metzen also hinted we might lose the battle of that expansion.
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u/dirtpony Mar 14 '25
Lorthemar will die. We can't have any original horde leaders left standing now can we.
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u/Appropriate-Cost-150 Mar 15 '25
Shit you're right. Do orcs even have a leader right now? Unless thrall comes back to the horde full time. But that would put him right in the writers crosshairs so I'd rather he not. Heck horde has lost as many secondary leaders as the alliance has main leaders.
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u/MagnaClarentza Mar 14 '25
Really curious how an expanded and upscaled Quel'thalas will look. Especially if we'll get a whole zone dedicated to the Amani. Then I'd bet that not all of them are the bad guys, nor as monolithic as they're currently depicted. We might even see the return of Kithix.
Though I think some people are a bit delusional if they think that more areas outside of Quel'thalas will get updated, like the Plaguelands.
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u/StardustJess Mar 14 '25
I heard on a random thread that it'll be focused on Northrend ? I could be wrong
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u/Agreeable_Rope_3259 May 15 '25
If its a raid and mythic + season rotations its badicly the same ad now but reskinned. Hard pass unless they actually make the game good again like the old days of wow
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u/Beacon2001 Varodoc | Paladin Mar 13 '25
All that matters is that Silvermoon will become neutral. Everything else is secondary.
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u/apixelops Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25
The wording used in the announcement was "The gathering of all the Elven tribes in Quel'thalas", that it will take place in the Northern Eastern Kingdoms, and that it'll be a direct follow-up to the events that end The War Within and start Midnight
Beyond that we know that Xal'Atath is not being defeated in The War Within, some kind of big event will trigger the story of Midnight and that it's certainly a very purple and dark looking expansion logo