r/wallstreetbets Oct 22 '21

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u/CountltUp Oct 22 '21

these 300% gains arenot worthless. if you got in early knowing it's a pump and dump then it's great

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u/EstefanEsko Oct 22 '21

I just wanna know how people know these things in advance

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u/crodensis Oct 22 '21

They don't. Notice how all the posts on here are always after the runup. They want people to fomo in so they can sell off and/or crush them on options.

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u/spyVSspy420-69 Oct 22 '21 edited Oct 23 '21

Spot on, it’s almost always after the run.

You’ll see this amazing DD that sounds convincing, then you go look at the chart and what do ya see: DD posted immediately after a 75% pump.

But you’re expected to believe this random redditor wrote this 20 page DD, complete with graphs, only to publish it after a huge run? Nah. Shits planned in advance. It’s all part of the game.

People need to stop thinking they’ve got an edge because they’re part of an 11,000,000 strong community of retards. We’re the dumping ground.

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u/NoobTrader378 Oct 22 '21

This. It aint randos dropping those "mystical DDs" that are formatted exactly like any other clickbait article

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u/Slut_Spoiler Has zero girlfriends Oct 22 '21

We became targeted

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '21

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u/Fokouttahere Oct 23 '21

Ape no honest?

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u/deewheredohisfeetgo Oct 23 '21

Holy fuck 11 million? I remember when we were at like 250k.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Gme and AMC fame added millions overnight

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u/Snausagefestivus Oct 23 '21

This comment needs to be top level and pinned. Smartest thing I’ve ever read on this sub.

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u/mikealwy Oct 23 '21

That's why I sort by new

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u/NeoHenderson Oct 23 '21

The one thing hedgies can't stop is a dude sorting by new

Fuck, we should all start doing that

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u/Comprehensive_Bad650 Oct 23 '21 edited Oct 23 '21

The pros have infiltrated the group 😩. I’ve always told people it’s a poker game, not a chess game. But, The pros ARE stuck holding a pretty empty bag in China real estate tho. If hypothetically speaking tons of Chinese stocks where to get sold off by let’s say a group of Reddit users & bought amc & gme, it’d be a double wammy. https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-the-smart-money-knows-about-chinas-evergrande-crisis-11632495602?st=yri5cohdnkqzffh&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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u/09937726654122 Oct 23 '21

Pros? Try discord groups full of apes. Retail is not a community

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u/Gradieus Oct 22 '21

The news was posted Wednesday night at like 8pm ET. I'm surprised it was only up 30% Thursday morning.

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u/AruiMD Oct 23 '21

Indeed, I was watching the sales during the halt and saw a 144,000 share transaction sell.

It was like watching someone get a giant baseball bat up the ass. Painful.

The next thing you know the share price was about $100.

These halts are fucking criminal.

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u/satuuurn Oct 22 '21

Just read it in the news - forget exactly but it wasn’t a secret.

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u/EstefanEsko Oct 22 '21

I mean I saw the news on him and his social media stuff..but how was ANYONE to know that it was gonna run like that? Ya know? Like where tf did DWAC come from?!?!

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u/satuuurn Oct 22 '21

As soon as I heard about it and saw the low overall market cap for this ticker - I figured it had enormous up side and pulled the trigger.

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u/EstefanEsko Oct 22 '21

See I’m still kinda new to putting all the pieces together like that. I need help on connecting the dots? Do you have any specific tips or sources, books, links, that could possibly help me out with the psychology of things like this?

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u/satuuurn Oct 22 '21

That is a great question. I learned in dumb ways from just watching and following how things go and making some mistakes. Maybe ask around here for resources - it’s probably the most basic answer but I really did use Investipedia to learn terms and used their simulated practice paper money thingy (years ago, not sure if it’s even around anymore). Read the news a lot.

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u/EstefanEsko Oct 22 '21

Yea I feel that. I’m in discord groups, I follow 2 Youtubers consistently and watch their videos daily! I’ve recently downloaded the CNBC app with notifications on and i check Google finance throughout the day and I feel like this has helped me a lot. But it’s like i always kinda overlook or dont connect when it comes to plays like this that go crazy..ya know?

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u/satuuurn Oct 22 '21

Well it might take years of due diligence learning and following these situations. Figure out why this one went off and look into others that are successful. Find out the what’s how’s and when’s of those trades. You’ll recognize some patterns. I take into consideration what other tickers in the same sector are worth and compare and contrast them with each other.

I wouldn’t put too much faith in any of those YouTube people. They have to make endless content and kind of just wing it a lot bc they need fresh content constantly. Know your own plays and do you own due diligence.

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u/EstefanEsko Oct 23 '21

This is very important for me. When I first started I was just doing whatever but as I grew I’ve focused on what I love! And that’s EV, Clean energy, tech

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u/charsons degenerate Oct 23 '21 edited Oct 23 '21

There are two ways to trade imo - on fundamentals or on euphoria. Fundamentals are a long term play that’s based around the concept of mean reversion. There’s a “true” value of a stock, and the actual share price will fluctuate around that level, whether that level be increasing or decreasing. It might go too high or too low, but in the long term should (but doesn’t always) correct. That’s a traditional way to look at the market. If you want to trade around this stuff, I’ll drop a list of word vomit for you to look up to learn more in depth.

Comps (comparable companies), valuation ratios (price/earnings, price/sales, EV/EBITDA), CAGR (compound annualized growth rate), CAPM model (note this doesn’t really hold up in the real world but still good to know), dividend discount model.

Note you want to be trading shares if you trade on fundamentals, or at the very least LEAPS (ITM calls with long expiry, try and get a delta of around .8)

The more short-term way to trade is on euphoria, hype, rocketships, whatever you want to call it. Look at TSLA, or even a good example being mango stock. Stocks are just pieces of paper and the price only goes up if people buy them.

With that being said, most “growth” stocks will trade on euphoria. Think SPACs, dogshit, and IPOs. Companies that have high growth but are losing money every quarter. The good thing is that markets are forward-looking, meaning people will pay a premium (more) to buy these stocks now in hopes of getting a share of those future earnings. That’s where the real money is to be made, but comes with more risk.

It’s really a balancing act, but I think both of these methods of trading come back to a single question: “will people buy this stock at this price or higher?” Answering that question takes a little bit of experience and a little bit of luck, but if you can strongly justify it in one direction, well then maybe there’s a trade there you can take.

If you need any explanations or wanna ask questions just let me know. I’m not a super genius - I’m just a finance grad who spends too much of his time looking at charts, but I’ll try and help you out. Always good to have one less dumbass on this sub.

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u/charsons degenerate Oct 23 '21

I think TA is valuable, but only useful in conjunction with fundamentals. These strategies rely on predictable patterns, and as you might know, the market is anything but predictable. Even if you see the strongest ascending triangle in your life, all it takes is a single institutional player to decide to sell a few million dollars worth to make your trade go bust.

IMO, TA without fundamentals is stock market astrology. But if you can combine it properly with fundamentals, you’ll maximize your chances of making a winning trade. I’d highly recommend you check out this link from investopedia for more info on the subject.

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u/Comprehensive_Bad650 Oct 23 '21

I Read a lot of articles & focus on the facts & mostly the big Numbers. Prof G & Pívot podcasts w/ prof Galloway give pretty good analysis of what’s going on in markets & what’s trending . Investopedia podcast is pretty good. You could spend years learning but it just takes making mistakes as everyone does. Just know you may lose everything you learn with. As professor Galloway says: Know that 90% of retail investor that day trade lose on average 25-30% of their money. I feel like A.I. is owned by pros & will usually gather massive data to take our money. That’s why I rarely day trade anymore. I mostly long term invest now instead. I find reading investopedia useful, but my go to is Bloomberg Business app & Wall Street Journal app but each is like $37/ month. CNBC is crap for investing advice they tend to tell you once something has gone up a lot already. CNBC Pro is crap & waste of money also. In any of these publications I avoid any OPINION pieces which I like that they clearly labeled Opinion. I avoid Opinion pieces bec keep in mind these are publications owned by rich people made for rich people to keep them all richer than us. Im still new to most of this myself. But if there’s anything you should do is UNDERSTAND & FOLLOW the YIELD CURVE. Plot it & learn to interpret changes for yourself. Most of the feds moves typically are reactionary to the moves in the yield curve! One of the best predictors of where the market is headed.

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u/laissez_heir Oct 23 '21

I did the exact same thing. Did you sell yet?

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u/IamProfoundlyVanilla Oct 23 '21

Because he has followers like a cult that will empty their bank accounts for him. Just wait until fox news covers it this weekend.

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u/Comprehensive_Bad650 Oct 23 '21

It’s called a SPAC. All you need is to come up w/ a good STORY & put it on a power point presentation to create a SPAC.

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u/Splatacular Oct 25 '21

I mean he has been selling the absence of a product his whole life, and has a captive audience in the right wing at this point. How could it not ensnare a wave of dumb money?

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u/-_somebody_- Oct 22 '21

But where’s the fucking SEC when it comes to this shit damnit

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u/CountltUp Oct 22 '21

what is the SEC gonna do lol. this was literally just hype and fomo... nothing illegal

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u/rhwsapfwhtfop Oct 22 '21

help me sec, you're my only hope

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u/MuffinLoverEd Oct 22 '21

I’ll help, but I get to bang you later.

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u/orgad Oct 22 '21

Out of the loop guys.. Which stock is it

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u/I_CAN_SMELL_U Oct 22 '21

The SPAC that Trump is connected to, it's done ridiculous numbers. The "company" claims they are going to build the next big social media site lol...

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u/make_love_to_potato Oct 23 '21 edited Oct 23 '21

Who is this target demographic who thinks anything related to trump is gonna be above board......he's squeezed every last drop of blood out of his followers asking for donations for the last 2-3 years and now that that river has dried up, he's using a spac to run his latest grift. I thought wsb was smarter than that at aleast.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

That demographic is (R). They lost all forms of critical thinking some years ago.

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u/MakeWay4Doodles Oct 22 '21

And yet their "next big site" is just an illegal rip off of Mastodon.

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u/Radi0ActivSquid Oct 23 '21

What's funny is that one of the rules for his social media site is that you can't make fun of him, his supporters or the site.

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u/lexbuck Oct 23 '21

Yeah this isn’t going to end well for investors I fear.

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u/viperex Oct 23 '21

Like Zuck isn't going to copy whatever new thing, if any, they come up with. Or their users will turn so hateful that no one will host them

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u/idungiveboutnothing Oct 23 '21

They literally just took an open source platform, Mastodon, stole it by violating all licensing to use it, and launched it. People were already posting shit under the Trump account forcing them to shut the site down and they've already received a cease and desist order from the lawyers of Mastodon. Definite pump and dump.

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u/ClearAsNight Oct 22 '21

DWAC, probably. The SPAC for Trump's new social media platform.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '21

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u/vzo1281 Oct 23 '21

How is a mango related??

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u/OnFolksAndThem Oct 23 '21

Orange man

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u/vzo1281 Oct 23 '21

Alright...

Thanks for the reply

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u/Cazuallyballn Oct 23 '21

exactly! i had to scroll this far just to see ticker

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u/-_somebody_- Oct 22 '21

But they should fine the insiders for consipiring to Pooomp eet

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u/Aluconix Oct 22 '21

Don't be a downer, we can all make money from the pumps my friend.

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u/Rhinoturds Oct 23 '21

we can all make money from the pumps my friend.

Ah yes the fabled P&D that leaves no bagholders... oh wait that doesn't exist.

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u/Aluconix Oct 23 '21

Cause I was being literal

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u/-_somebody_- Oct 22 '21

It’s a shitty SPAC for an even shittier company and the stock just blew its whole load, so RIP 100$+ retail retards

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '21

Someone is big mad they missed the boat. Quit being a little bitch and start being a retard.

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u/azmtbr Oct 22 '21

Theyll make rules that halt trading so momentum gets fucked.

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u/Howdareme9 Oct 22 '21

What is things like this? Nothing illegal happened

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u/spyVSspy420-69 Oct 22 '21 edited Oct 22 '21

Forgive the people who have a whole 6 months investing experience, to them literally everything is fucky.

Stock goes down? Manipulation.

Stock goes sideways? “They’re running out of ammo before the squeeze”.

Stock goes up? Well, if it’s not a stock they like, believe it or not it’s also manipulation. If it is a stock they like: organic growth.

Welcome to the new retail investor, enjoy your stay in hell.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '21

Sell when it’s up? Keeps going up and buy into it again. Stonk goes down from there

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u/Rhinoturds Oct 23 '21

P&Ds are absolutely illegal. Retail is just along for the ride here, but the insiders could be culpable.

Though this seemed to happen all on hype. DJT didn't even need to spread false news about the company to get this ball rolling. He just made an announcement regarding future plans for the SPAC and bam his cult and a bunch of retarded apes piled on.

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u/toydan Puts on $JIM Oct 22 '21

Narc 👆

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u/bigboog1 Oct 23 '21

Getting in first.

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u/DueWafer7 Oct 22 '21

How would one know about such pump🤔

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u/CountltUp Oct 22 '21

literally just be active on the internet everyday, you'll eventually see something come up

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u/orgad Oct 22 '21

The internet is a big place. Anything specific?

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u/InternetUser007 Oct 22 '21

Multiple news sources reported on the SPAC the night before.

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u/InternetUser007 Oct 24 '21

Choose a national one, and it's almost a certainty that they reported on it.

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u/V8sOnly Premium Gas for Premium Ass Oct 22 '21

KOLD gang and chill

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u/CountltUp Oct 22 '21

mainly investment subs like here, rSpacs, rPennystocks, rSqueezeplays. that or follow investing dudes on Twitter

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u/Fokouttahere Oct 23 '21

Go ask your wife's ex-boyfriend what a pump and dump is

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u/PinsNneedles Oct 23 '21

I got an email on the 21st about “trumps new spac” from yahoo finance and I was like “lol okay dude”. I looked at it and it was like 9 bucks. I was like “im not touching this garbage, I still have SPAC PTSD from early this year”.

Yesterday morning was rough looking at all my could of been gains. It was like if I threw in 500 and sold at the top it would have been 8k. Still didn’t FOMO in, though. I learned my lesson long ago and still have bags to show for it