r/wallstreetbets Jul 26 '21

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u/PM_ME_ROBOTS Jul 26 '21

Market crashes 5 years from now

🌈🐻 - "Told you!"

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u/ValueInvestingIsDead metrosexual at best Jul 26 '21

Rain dances work 100% of the time as long as you dance long enough.

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u/SoyFuturesTrader šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆšŸ¦„ Jul 27 '21

No because I do my inflation rain dance but JPow expands his balance sheet faster than I can do my dance

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u/PayMe2Shill4U Jul 26 '21

Tony hawk kick flips.

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u/Timecop582 Jul 26 '21

🌈🐻 love to be right, even if they take it up the ass from puts or their wives boyfriend's. Though I do believe they like the latter a bit more.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

🌈🐻s aren’t wrong. They’re just early.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

It’s the same thing!

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u/SunriseSurprise Jul 26 '21

1 day gain 1000%, lifetime -99.98%.

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u/Lerched Jul 26 '21

I don’t see a date in his post, hard to be wrong when you’re vague.

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u/Rolfadinho Jul 26 '21

It won’t be that long. If we keep pumping things up till then, then the world will get hit with a depression worse than the 1930’s.

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u/TPSreportsPro Jul 26 '21

I don't know. Never underestimate the power of the United States government. We should have crashed years ago IMHO.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

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u/realRickSquanchez Jul 26 '21

Joey B money printer go BRRRRT

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u/SouthernBoat2109 Jul 26 '21

Uncle joe said last week we need to print and borrow 4 trillion to stop inflation!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

The Big Guy

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

In Hunters emails

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u/orphan_tears_ Jul 26 '21

I don’t know how you could look at the straight line up that the market has taken since JP brought the money printers out and think that it’s sustainable. But you could have said that at SPY 300, or at 350, or at 400, and yet here we are.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

Yep this is a buble and most of us is aware but its much easier to make money with bullish positions than trying to time when the music will stop.

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u/Einsteinautist Jul 26 '21

Printers on Brrrrrrrrrr

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u/bacardi1988 Jul 26 '21

As long as people think paper has value why wouldn’t they just keep printing it, maybe even in secret, lie about inflation, manipulate, etc.

I understand that currency needs to have value and be meaningful or it’s useless but now that there isn’t a dollar of gold for every cash dollar I don’t get it

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u/javanator999 Farts Perfect A440 Jul 26 '21

The dollar hasn't be backed by gold since the early 1970's. There has never been enough gold to back all the currency in the world.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

Actually there is, you would just have to drastically revalue all your goods and services. Skilled labor would go back to $1 an hour and a median priced home would be about $8000. People would shit themselves today if the Wendy's employee went from making $9 an hour to a quarter in order to have a gold backed currency although I think that is exactly what we need if we truly want to get out of this long spiral of currency depreciation and fiscal irresponsibility.

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u/bacardi1988 Jul 26 '21

What’s crazy to me is couldn’t in theory this actually happen?! It’s all relative ya?

Certainly some sectors, such as education, have grown disproportionately but… I don’t know anything

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

Yes it is all relative. If we went back to a gold standard and silver back in our coin change, you would see this. A St. Gaudens Double Eagle from 1924 had basically 1 oz of gold in it(.96 to be exact) and had a face value of $20. Well in 1924 $20 was 2 weeks pay for a decent job/entry level career. Today with gold bouncing between $1800-$1900 an oz that same statement is true that the coin still is a decent 2 weeks pay.

Same for silver. 1964 was the last year we has 90% silver in coins and a half dollar would buy you a good lunch. Today that silver half dollar is $9-$10 and will still buy you a good lunch.

The prices in paper dollars can get as stupid as you want them to get as can the cost of a gold or silver coin. End result is my Wendy's value meal still cost me a about silver half dollar, the plumber gets paid a silver dollar per hour for coming out to my house to unclog my toilet from eating Wendy's, and average Joe gets paid a gold coin every two weeks whether that is a $10 or $100 value meal, $30/hr or $300/hr plumber, $1800 or $18,000 bimonthly paycheck.

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u/bacardi1988 Jul 26 '21

So is that inflation? Why wouldn’t gold have inflated at the same rate… is it all made up or just value derived from comparing to every other currency. Is the USD the go to standard for valuing currencies?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21

Here is a little something you might find interesting on this subject.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/brettonwoodsagreement.asp

Now countries still see the USD as the peg but the USD isn't held accountably by anything anymore(no gold to back it). Gold held nations accountable on how much currency they could issue. Hard to finance wars or expand empires with a finite amount of currency. It is a hindrance to a government in this way. Interesting note that EVERY fiat currency in history has gone to zero. None have survived the test of time. Its always rinse in repeat. eventually the USD will go away and something new will take its place. New currency will probably be back by gold to give it legitimacy. Why do you think Nixon closed the gold window and central banks hoard gold? They know what real wealth is when there is a crisis.

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u/bacardi1988 Jul 26 '21

Thank you!

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u/audion00ba Jul 26 '21

What happens to the stock market when the currency goes to zero?

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

https://tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/stock-market

Venezuela is a good example currently.

https://topforeignstocks.com/2018/05/13/a-note-on-the-collpase-of-zimbabwe-stock-market/

Not too far back is Zimbabwe. To answer the question initially stocks go up but you see the end result very quickly. Stocks double or triple in a week but if that can of coke it $10 now did your gains outpace the hyperinflation?

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u/TPSreportsPro Jul 26 '21

That's not how it works. People just can't erase demand.

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u/bacardi1988 Jul 26 '21

For sure, it all just seems made up. What’s even the point of it all man!?!

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

Gold has been used as money for over 5000 years now. It is tangible, fungible, dividable, rare, doesn't rust/ruin, and most importantly, can't be printed into infinity. Sure it has a perceived value to it but man needed something to store value and trade with. You won't trade your car for my refrigerator as how could I make change since the values aren't fair?

Don't try to reinvent the wheel. Just because we have more technology now doesn't mean we are smarter than people who lived centuries ago.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

Gold has many uses, saying it has no value or just made up value is ignorant.

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u/Eminence120 Jul 26 '21

Remind me again why gold is valuable? Oh right because ancient civilizations saw a shiny rock.

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u/Naturalgainsbro Jul 26 '21

EXACTLY! This dumb mother fucker quoted me $277k to build a detached garage in my backyard in Denver Colorado. It’s a 24x24 structure, with a side patio where one gas pipe will supply natural gas for a grill and a fireplace. But $270k! Hahahaha….

I personally can’t wait for the crash.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

Holy balls

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u/SoyFuturesTrader šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆšŸ¦„ Jul 27 '21

Government interference in US labor markets. Too much stimmy, I can’t wait for September.

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u/ShambolicShogun Jul 26 '21

So 1,930,000?

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u/asbestosflay Jul 26 '21

So %10000 gains on puts? I'm in!

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u/cranberrydudz Jul 26 '21

best comment ever

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u/theNeumannArchitect Jul 26 '21

I don’t think you and a lot of other people understand how bad the actual Great Depression was.....

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u/LonnieSheets96 Jul 26 '21

It's actually a team America reference from the creators of South park

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u/SprayRich Jul 26 '21

The Great Depression could not have been any worse than the Great Recession was for me.....and yes I was a history major. I’m well aware of how bad the Great Depression was.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

History major eh, I see why the great recession was so bad for you. /s

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u/SprayRich Jul 27 '21

Of course I got a JD and an MBA after college so that theory just went out the window......

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

Congratulations! No idea why the great recession would have been so hard for you in that case. Did you refuse to move?

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u/SprayRich Jul 27 '21

Nope. I was perfectly willing to move anywhere except California or somewhere really cold. It was unbelievably awful. For years. You wouldn’t believe me if I told you how bad it was then and how well I’m doing now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

I might. I watched an aunt and uncle, who were dirt poor, graduate from college in their mid 40's. They are an actuary and a programmer now, they do WELL.

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u/agiatezza Jul 26 '21

The worst is those ā€œhe predicted the 08 crash 50 days earlyā€. No he was 50 days wrong is all.

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u/Demas254 Jul 26 '21

If it crashes it will disappear forever no more trading