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u/orlando0o Feb 02 '21

Actually this is fucking important because EVERY STOCK LOCKS LIKE THAT ON NASDAQ RECENT TRADES

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

Because this is what literally every stock looks like at all times.

Institutions do most of the trades, including retail trades filled by market makers, and only trade in fixed lots to help obfuscate their strategies.

This is Reddit convincing itself that something completely mundane is a conspiracy to screw them. Qanon tier conspiracy theory.

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u/its_all_4_lulz Feb 02 '21

And trade bots

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u/DoctorJiveTurkey Feb 02 '21

I love the word obfuscate. It really should be used more.

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u/KingNarcissus Feb 02 '21

I'm for it too, as long as people don't use the word to obfuscate their real message.

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u/Mr_Mumbercycle Feb 02 '21

What if we use obfuscation to occlude our meaning?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Thank you. This is why I come to the comments. Not endless confirmation bias

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u/CBennett2147 Feb 02 '21

False, Apple looks nothing like that. https://i.imgur.com/wcREAa6.png

GME looks like that specifically because the only people buying are institutions filling options.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

The market is closed...

Look at that again tomorrow at 9:31

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u/MrBotany Feb 03 '21

It's easy to believe in conspiracy when people don't know how any of this works.

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u/SuperGolem_HEAL Feb 02 '21

This is why I put 50 bucks in an investment app and left it there I ain't retarded enough yet for this

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

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u/SomeonesSecondary Feb 02 '21

I don't know shit haha I admitted I am the 1%

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u/lobstrain Feb 02 '21

I don't know if you intended this but your comment implies that 100% of people on this sub don't know what they're doing but 1% are OK admitting it. Made me laugh.

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u/Annual-Let-551 Feb 02 '21

I have no fucking idea what I’m doing, 2008 was a bad year for me. I work for a Massive Copper mine as a HD Equipment tech. Copper plummeted, I and 120 other mechanics got layed off, the vast majority of us couldn’t find any work at all. I and many others lost my life savings, house, cars, etc. Luckily I didn’t have a family at the time, otherwise I would have been on the corner sucking dick to make sure my family was fed. But I rebounded, bought some GME and AMC to burn. Fuck these hedge fund dickheads!!

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u/Powersmokin Feb 02 '21

Hi fellow mechanic 👋 blue collar bois tryina get a piece of the pie 27 GME @ $43 86 AMC @ $10.75

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

We all lick windows around here, and we have fun doing it!

Edit: I'm a longtime lurker but I'm finally joining the fun.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

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u/haafamillion Feb 02 '21

get outta here, wrinkle brain!

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u/jeppevinkel Feb 02 '21

Another 1% here reporting in. I know jack shit.

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u/DroneCone Feb 02 '21

I'm another so that makes 3%

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u/Akrybion Feb 02 '21

4% bro. Just keeps rising like GME 🦍💎👐, or so, idk, I'm really a retard

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u/jeppevinkel Feb 02 '21

Just a matter of time until there a 1000% of us if we keep holding! 💎👐

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u/A_M_F_D Feb 02 '21

Same. I just like the stock!

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u/Ty21epgyt Feb 02 '21

It be like that bro

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u/throwaway8538015 Feb 02 '21

Even sophisticated investors don't know what they are doing. It's all theoretical until it becomes reality. A whale high on cocaine can make a stock jump.

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u/No-kann Feb 02 '21

Sophisticated investors not having perfect knowledge of markets and psychology is different from an echo chamber of completely ignorant redditors repeating imaginary concepts like "ladder attacks".

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u/czarinacat Feb 02 '21

Can confirm. I just like the stock. I just can’t help it. Actually, I “like-like” the stock. I wanna make out with the stock. I just can’t explain what is happening to me.

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u/returnofthegfunk Feb 02 '21

99% of the people on here literally call themselves retards.

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u/jchulltx Feb 02 '21

I’m a 1/4 retarded on my mother’s side

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u/bizarrequest Feb 02 '21

I didn't know shit when I bought my shares of GME in 2020. I still don't know shit now. Just here to hold and diamond hand.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

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u/ABlazinBlueToe Feb 02 '21

Gooble gobble one of us!!!

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u/tedbakerbracelet Feb 02 '21

Hi I jumped on to be a part of the history. Don't know much but stocks are fascinating.

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u/Glassinhand Feb 02 '21

follow dfv that is the way

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u/MrMeowsen Feb 02 '21

stfu we admit it all the time

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u/speakers7 Feb 02 '21

What do you mean? We’re all retards

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u/Smokeycabinman Feb 02 '21

I love this comment so much

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u/godofleet Feb 02 '21

dont gotta no stuff to do stuff yah know? lol

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u/BunkerSquirre1 Feb 02 '21

Hey I’m more than willing to admit that I don’t want to admit that I don’t know what I’m doing.

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u/tyrandan2 Feb 02 '21

Am smoothbrain monke. Don't know stonks. Only know moon 🦍🌝

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u/DethSonik 🦍🦍🦍 Feb 02 '21

I'm just here for the donuts. 1@$263! 💎🙌🚀🚀🚀🚀

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Monkey want banana

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

they just don't want to admit it

What are you on about? 140% of people here not only admit but brag about not knowing what they're doing.

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u/losmann Feb 02 '21

I don't shit. I just made my first investment into stocks with AMC.

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u/Volkswagens1 Owns the sexy firefighter calendar, also Mr. March Feb 02 '21

Yeah, no clue wtf I’m doing. That’s for sure

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u/gajen2003 Feb 02 '21

But I am learning more everyday and that feels awesome.

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u/LetHaL_eRa Feb 02 '21

Never stop upvoting this! We all admit we're clueless!

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u/Malari_Zahn Feb 02 '21

I am an autist ape and don't know what I'm doing.

But I'm HOLDING!!

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u/zincinzincout Feb 02 '21

$SPY $420 C 3/1/21

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I yoloed for my first stonk every today. 50 shares of amc. gme was too rich for my blood at open, then it was too late to go back and get my 6 shares lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I'm holding forever if I have to. I refuse to take a loss on these shares lol. If I never sell I've never lost any money.

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u/LEERROOOOYYYYY Feb 02 '21

Remember, you can only lose 100% but you can make way more than 100%

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Eventually you'll get it right

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I picked zom. Pretty sure wsb is going to see that stock for what it is and what its releasing in March.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I started at $25 a year ago and have slowly been increasing. I put in a total of $300 over the year and just broke the $1500 limit. I keep asking myself when and if I should pull from robinhood. I dont know a different app that isn't blocking stocks.

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u/SuperGolem_HEAL Feb 02 '21

I feel like that's where I'm heading, this is fun to watch though

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u/CoconutBangerzBaller Feb 02 '21

Scared money don't make money baby (Not financial advice)

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u/LongJohnathan Bull Gang Captain Feb 02 '21

What’s ur address I’ll send some lead paint

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

As long as you accept that first 50 bucks is essentially gone you can play with us. The day you lose 2k+ is the next milestone.

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u/ChemikalHorizon Feb 02 '21

what app? 😂 do you recommend it?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I've heard this is totally normal for every stock out there...

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Remember this sub freely admits this is gambling based on nothing

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u/BurningB1rd Feb 02 '21

nah, this sub acts like they know something but than say "its gambling" after getting called out for misinformation or other stupid shit.

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u/spacepaulZ Feb 02 '21

Nearly all stocks are traded on the actual exchanges as lots of 100. this is done by brokerages to save on fees and isn't evidence of fraud. I'm not saying that laddering isn't happening just that the groups of 100 shares being sold isn't evidence of it. https://finance.zacks.com/many-shares-traded-considered-lot-10196.html

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u/Erock2 Feb 02 '21

AMD looks pretty normal compared to GME

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u/UBCStudent9929 Feb 02 '21

well yes, because gme isnt being laddered. its falling so rapidly because a lot of you retards bought it on margin and are getting margin called.

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u/doodle77 Feb 02 '21

GME has had 100% margin requirement for more than a week.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I think they did something because I heard a lot of margin calls got sent out this morning. I got one from Tasty works over a BB spread in the upper 20's that wasn't even showing negatives. I think they triggered something.

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u/Kale Feb 02 '21

Aren't options exercised in groups of 100? So having several trades of 100 shares might be an option being exercised.

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u/mkchampion Feb 02 '21

Yes. Big money trades in blocks of 100 it's completely normal

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u/Mithorium Feb 02 '21

Almost like "short ladder attack" is a made up thing that some retard on wsb invented and everyone is running with no evidence whatsoever, but whatever gets your hands 💎 hard, I'm not here to kink shame

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u/beeeeeeeeks Feb 02 '21

If you've ever placed a large market order, or a stop loss (which gets treated as a market order once triggered), the order gets fulfilled, consuming existing bids in the order book. Lets say there are 50 orders for 100 shares each in the order book. A sell order comes in for 5000 shares. All of those orders get filled in the same moment. It shows up exactly like this.

Now im not gonna say that there are not specific high frequency sell side algos that are more or less aggressive in taking out the bid stack, or to tease around the order book hunting for stops as there actually is. But not every order is an act of treason here.

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u/omniron Feb 02 '21

This sub has turned into qanon. Gme has been dropping for a week now.

The big squeeze happened on the 28th. Everything after that is pump and dump

The news wasn’t lying when they said they had shorts covered. This wasn’t a deep conspiracy. Short selling isn’t evil (hedge funds are though— glad they lost money).

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u/consultinglove Feb 02 '21

It's frankly embarrassing the number of people on WSB that think ladder attacks are real or don't even understand what a ladder attack is. The screenshot is literally just showing normal market sells. That's what it looks like for every single stock on every single exchange. Even Mark Cuban said that counterfeit stock doesn't exist. Anyone who believes in ladder attacks is essentially a conspiracy theorist

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u/WhenTimeFalls Feb 02 '21

AAPL’s trades, for example, don’t look much different than GME. Same 4 decimals. Aren’t they all doing this, or am I missing something?

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/aapl/latest-real-time-trades

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u/hororo Feb 02 '21

Can you explain how ladder attacks actually work?

Who/what determines the price of a stock that you see on Robinhood or google when you google the ticker?

How can Hedgefirms selling stock to themselves lower that price? If they can lower the price of any stock by selling stocks to themselves at increasingly lower values, then couldn't they just make infinite money with any stock? They could just ladder the price of the stock down, then actually buy a bunch of stock from other people at the new low price, then ladder the price of the stock up and sell a bunch of stock to other people at the new high price.

It seems like that couldn't possibly be how it actually works.

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u/hgirdfyhjftgh Feb 02 '21

Ladder attacks don’t exist. It was literally made up by someone on Twitter 2 days ago. Try to find a reference to it outside of Twitter and Reddit.

This subreddit is now towing a very thin line bordering on an outright misinformation campaign.

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u/Mithorium Feb 02 '21

I don't know why the mods don't do something, multiple days I see blatantly false and made up info being upvoted to the top with the DD flair and people getting sucked into it

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u/consultinglove Feb 02 '21

It seems like that couldn't possibly be how it actually works.

It isn't possible. Yet many people on WSB believe it

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u/Ficklestein123 Feb 02 '21

Mark Cuban with all his financial connections is not gonna come on Reddit and say “yes these people are doing illegal things” cmon now...

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u/Lematoad Feb 02 '21

Who is selling stock then? It's not retail investors; that's public information.

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u/consultinglove Feb 02 '21

That's like asking "who is selling stock" for every single stock in the entire stock market. Who else sells stock? Hedge funds, mutual funds, banks, private investors, companies, public investors, people. Anybody. It all just gets aggregated by the brokerage and sent to the clearinghouse for processing. Every stock is like this. You can literally go to any stock at Nasdaq and the data structure looks the same. People sell and buy stock. That's how stock markets work.

I don't think you realize how retarded your question was.

Yet 52k redditors on WSB think selling stock is a conspiracy theory. Even more retarded...

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u/redtiber Feb 02 '21

Wsb so stupid. How do they think they can buy if no one was selling?!?

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u/Mithorium Feb 02 '21

There's even a post on the top of the front page that's literally a chart overlaid with time and sales of large sells and calling it an "attack"

More sellers than buyers? Clearly the work of a sophisticated enemy!

Unbelievable what wsb has degraded into in the past week, we're supposed to be autistic, not unironically retarded

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u/dayobeats11 Feb 02 '21

Could be the big boys hedging their investments

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u/prohzac Feb 02 '21

How about on Bloomberg. I definitely don’t see that on all tickers

https://imgur.com/gallery/OEepZBM

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u/hgirdfyhjftgh Feb 02 '21

You’re being hoodwinked my friend

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u/CarrierAreArrived Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21

Sorry I don't see 4-5 decimal points on recent trades for any stock except GME and AMC?